to Amarnath about Department of Peace

[Guest guest]

Dear Amarnath ~ I am so sorry to hear about the robbery. To me it would have

been frightening. That you could go look at mug shots and feel empathy and a

desire to give prayer says a great deal about your commitment. I was

wondering ... has any public figure made the proposal of a US Department of

Peace and

Domestic Non Violence? If yes, then supporting it would be very easy ...

just by writing to elected officials. Or was this the idea of someone on the

digest? If this is the case, more ground work would need to be done to create a

grassroots groundswell of support. I think many of our politicians would fear

supporting something like this because they fear being looked at as " soft "

on terrorism.

 

I used to be a staff person for a group called Peace Links. It was founded

by Betty Bumpers whose husband was a Senator from Arkansas, and the leaders in

the group were all Congressional Spouses. They forged a huge grassroots

movement and accomplished a great deal. I'm pretty sure they still are in

operation, so perhaps someone could contact them with this idea. Jai Jai Ma ~

Linda

 

 

Amarnath wrote:

 

America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

" spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

possibly save the human race from extinction

 

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[Guest guest]

dear Linda and group members . . . on this discussion once again how we are

like pebbles in Amma's tumbler. . . . And for me it is the process of

tumbling, it is not about for or against, right or wrong, and in the

process of withstanding the tensions am able to get beautiful glimpses of

the best within each of you that i believe Amma is in the process of bring

forth in so many of Her children in this group. . . these are rays of beauty

from the tumbling i am glimpsing. .

 

..As always Linda see your such goodness and fullness of heart and so often

when you express yourself i think of the adage, " vunerability is one's

greates strength " . I am so glad you returned to the group.

 

For months in reading Amarnath's comments i have felt the heart and

depth for Peace and sense the integrity of walk by way of your comments

Amarnath. I do not know anything, but i am believing that Amma has placed

in your heart Amarnath the call for peace and action. . .I really honor that

in you and your voice. . .and not only will i join you in prayer for a

Department of Peace, but will pray that Amma will find strong voice and

hands through you Amarnath. . .i typed in to the search engine Amma and War

for was curious as to what does Amma say, and of course Amma like Jesus

speaks to different people in different contexts. . . i found many and

will share for found them interesting. . .by reading the comments i could

better understand the voice you are speaking from Amarnath and also the

voice and concern that Pranada was voicing. . . I will list some below and

was a bit surprised to realize just how powerful Amma's voice is when it

comes to speaking out about war and issues of the need to create systems to

alleviate poverty and her powerful Call for Action. . .

 

From Max i learn from and so appreciate her voice for it seems anchored and

powerful as you speak sister. . .I like Max. . .good stuff. . .

 

And labd i continue to hold your display of non defensiveness. . .and like

water you flow with the ebb. . .i always see light in your eyes when you

express to the group. . .thanks

 

And Keval love your great humor. . .your one liners say alot and i love to

laugh, thanks. . .I thank you for holding the group in moderation. . .

 

As always Temba your consistency in expressing your heart full devotion and

desire to serve Amma is beautiful. . .and trust She has started a good work

within you and will be faithful to bring your being to completion. . .I

often have the sense of wings flapping as i read your post. . .have told

myself either Temba is an angel or he is a beautiful bird that is practing

to fly into ever increasing service and devotion to Amma. . .I sense from

what you write that you wish the group would rally around more to the

proposes you bring forth. . .and i trust that Amma is holding up the sky

that will one day soon see you fly under with Amma's grace and beauty that

is within you. . .

 

And i know Pranada and how deeply she strives to do the right thing. .

..and her committment and desire to serve Amma i hold with true respect. .

..When Temba has called for action i have often thought of Pranada because

i know she spends lots of time in serving Amma through her own beautiful

abilities and gifts. . . . I know Pranada gives a lot from her Amma heart

through her singing, leading music at satsangs and making ready the new

ashram in Canada. . . as well as spending lots of hours making mala's to be

sold at Amma's programs and knitting for Rosebud reservation. . .as well as

keeping up with the prayer list and the seva of serving Amma in Canada,

California, and Detroit. . .

 

I think the threads from each that came forth last week was not against

anyone, but rather an Amma a space where we could come together and

practice that which She is bringing forth in each individually. .. Peace. .

..Love. . .Service. . .Action. . .

 

These are just a few rays from some of the members i have thought about in

the past week or so as we have been tumbling and i think you guys are

beautiful and we do have the capacity to create a group that is honoring of

Amma and each other. . .sometimes we may see things differently and have

different beliefs about how something is to be done, but the issues seem

more irrelevant for i think you all have beautiful faces, and see that Amma

is bringing forth the uniqueness and better angels that is within each is

coming through i feel and think. . .

 

But i do have a question. . .who and where is the person that sent forth

once exclamatory sentence last week? with what has come forth, i ask that

person to come forth and speak a little clearer so we can hear from you. .

..you have heard us. . .we would like to hear you with honor and peace. . .

 

 

Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha

marci

 

 

(just a few Amma and War comments)

 

Also a link at the very bottom for Linda on the establishment of the

Department of Peace to be added as a cabinet positon of the presidency. . .I

wish every Nation had a Department of Peace, and would be happy if each

country would just take 10% of the budget that is given to the Departments

of Defense and War to individuals such as Amma that are out there truly

doing the work that serves the world. . .Our Mother is so beautiful and love

Her so. . . .

War is Primitive *Amma delivered this message on 31 March 2003,

after the United States' invasion of Iraq. * War is primitive. Progress is

external and culture internal. War is the manifestation of a social psyche

that is unable to connect the two. This state of affairs is becoming the

curse of humanity.

 

Peace is the way to liberation. Krishna, Christ and Allah abide only in a

heart devoid of conflict. More than the destruction wrought on the outside,

the wounds inflicted on people's emotional psyche will linger for

generations together. Providing food, housing and medical treatment is only

a temporary solution for those suffering from the atrocities of war. It may

not heal those wounds in the human mind caused by conflict. This applies

equally to the warring sides as well as to the general populace.

 

Today, voices in protest against the on-going war are rising all around the

world. The voice of prayer should rise along with the voices of protest. May

that chorus of voices of prayer soothe the hearts of all. May there be peace

and contentment everywhere, in everyone, always.

 

-Amma

 

 

 

 

In The Media <http://www.amma.org.uk/media.htm> International Forum *Amma

is regularly invited to address major international organisations.* New York

2006 Amma receives the James Parks Morton Interfaith

Award in New York. Barcelona 2004 * " May Peace & Happiness Prevail* "

*Parliament of the World's Religions, Barcelona, Spain. *

" If in the future, there is a Third World War, let it not be a war between

countries, but rather a war against our common enemy poverty.

 

In today´s world, people experience two types of poverty: the poverty caused

by lack of food, clothing and shelter; and the poverty caused by lack of

love and compassion.

 

Of these two, the second type needs to be considered first - because, if we

have love and compassion in our hearts, then we will wholeheartedly serve

those who suffer from lack of food, clothing and shelter. "

 

 

" Amma has heard women from war-stricken areas say, 'We wake up in the

morning to the sounds of gunfire and cries of people. Our children cling to

us in fear and cry; we also hold onto them and cry. It's been so many years

since we awoke to the chirping of birds.' Let us pray that the crackle of

gunfire in such places is soon replaced by the chirping of birds, and that

the young and old alike burst into laughter instead of tears.

 

" Amma often feels that it would be so beautiful if - like in some child's

game - instead of shrapnel, bombs scattered chocolates and candy, or if they

spread a beautiful fragrance, or if they illuminated the sky with all the

colours of the rainbow. If only the flashes of destruction were flashes of

compassion. With modern weapons, man can pinpoint targets with deadly

accuracy. If only we could compassionately reach out to the poor, the hungry

and the homeless with the same precision!

 

" Let us stand together and show the world that compassion, love and concern

for our fellow beings have not completely vanished from the face of the

earth. Let us build a new world of peace and harmony by remaining deeply

rooted in the universal values that have nourished humanity since time

immemorial. Let us say goodbye to war and brutality forever, reducing them

to the stuff of fairytales. Let us be remembered in the future as the

generation of peace. "

*These are excerpts from Amma's speech " Compassion: The Only Way to Peace, "

delivered in Paris, France on 12 October 2007,

 

 

* " Changing the world is like trying to straighten a dog's tail. However much

you may try, you won't succeed. But although the tail won't straighten, if

you keep trying every day, at least you will put on some muscle. Similarly,

even though it is difficult to make a change, our effort to do so in itself

brings positive results. It will help us change. Without waiting for others

to change, if we change ourselves first, that will make a difference.

Instead of worrying about results, focus on doing our best in what we are

engaged in. "

 

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Department_of_Peace

 

 

 

 

 

On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 1:03 PM, <nierika wrote:

 

> Dear Amarnath ~ I am so sorry to hear about the robbery. To me it would

> have

> been frightening. That you could go look at mug shots and feel empathy and

> a

> desire to give prayer says a great deal about your commitment. I was

> wondering ... has any public figure made the proposal of a US Department of

> Peace and

> Domestic Non Violence? If yes, then supporting it would be very easy ...

> just by writing to elected officials. Or was this the idea of someone on

> the

> digest? If this is the case, more ground work would need to be done to

> create a

> grassroots groundswell of support. I think many of our politicians would

> fear

> supporting something like this because they fear being looked at as " soft "

> on terrorism.

>

> I used to be a staff person for a group called Peace Links. It was founded

> by Betty Bumpers whose husband was a Senator from Arkansas, and the leaders

> in

> the group were all Congressional Spouses. They forged a huge grassroots

> movement and accomplished a great deal. I'm pretty sure they still are in

> operation, so perhaps someone could contact them with this idea. Jai Jai Ma

> ~ Linda

>

>

> Amarnath wrote:

>

> America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

> wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

> Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

> other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

> Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

> " spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

> opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

> possibly save the human race from extinction

>

> **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social

> networks,

> and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com

> today!(

>

http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://w\

ww.aol.com/?optin=new-dp

> %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yep, that's me - the guy with the light in his eyes. No money to his

name maybe, but the light illuminates and fills the emptiness in his

pockets But seriously on the topic of a Dept. of Peace, I think

technically that is the job of the State Dept. and the UN with all

their diplomats. But when these diplomats themselves fight among

themselves, grabbing power, kowtowing to lobbyists, how can they make

peace? A separate dept of Peace might work if it is staffed by

peaceful people. Not if they have people holding Conflict Resolution

workshops where participants scream at each other saying, " My way of

creating peace is the best. "

 

I personally would just like to just pray for peace instead. Seems

more direct to me and focuses on the end rather than the means.

 

Labd

 

 

 

>

> And labd i continue to hold your display of non defensiveness. .

..and like

> water you flow with the ebb. . .i always see light in your eyes when you

> express to the group. . .thanks

>

> And Keval love your great humor. . .your one liners say alot and i

love to

> laugh, thanks. . .I thank you for holding the group in moderation. . .

>