Re : why we should pray for “U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence”

[Guest guest]

Namaste Pranada,

 

Since the situation in the world is very very grave,

 

I feel that both should be included. But, I am not insisting.

 

The more general prayer:

 

" That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence. "

 

Is already partially include in the beautiful?

 

" Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! "

 

 

 

But, I also feel that the more specific, more intentional request for :

 

" U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence. "

 

Is very very important for the following reasons :

 

 

 

 

Amma, and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human race may become

extinct. I may be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say so if this

possibility is 1000 years from now. I feel there is an urgency and that

is why Amma has Incarnated at this time as Kali. Amma also has said that

there are wealthy nations which instigate wars [and no doubt terrorism]

just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps, there are wealthy

unscrupulous people of several nations that work together to keep the

world in turmoil just so that they could be in control and accumulate

more wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " You

cannot change what you do not acknowledge. "

 

 

 

In this type of situation it is time for all people of good will to

stand up and speak out against war, against torture, against all

violence and seek alternative approaches. Buddha, Christ, Gandhi, ML

King, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have shown the way.

 

 

 

America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

" spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

possibly save the human race from extinction.

 

 

 

I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this very

specifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.

 

 

 

On a more personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a young

man with a gun. Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but that

we suffered little harm was Amma's Grace. I feel the robber

suffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by the fear on this young

man's face. Few days later we had to go to police station to look at

pictures; there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could do

was say some prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department of

Peace and Domestic Non-violence " would go a long way to help these

young men.

 

 

 

In the world, America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and has

the largest % of its citizens in prisons.

 

 

 

May Amma Bless All Americans toward more positive concrete actions on

the individual level and on the government level,

 

amarnath

 

Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !

 

Ammachi , " Pranada Sylvis " <daughterpranada

wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,

>

> Might we phrase it as:

> " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?

>

> Jai Ma,

> Pranada

>

> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc wrote:

>

> >

> >

> > Perhaps, this should be added to the prayer list:

> > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence "

> >

> > thanks for listening

> >

> > Amma Bless,

> > amarnath

> > >>>>

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namah Shivaya,

 

I personally feel quite uncomfortable with praying for specific agendas in

specific governments, and I would not wish to ask others to pray for that

which makes them uncomfortable. However, I will put this out to the group to

decide, and defer to their decision.

 

Jai Ma,

Pranada

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc wrote:

 

>

> Namaste Pranada,

>

> Since the situation in the world is very very grave,

>

> I feel that both should be included. But, I am not insisting.

>

> The more general prayer:

>

> " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence. "

>

> Is already partially include in the beautiful?

>

> " Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! "

>

> But, I also feel that the more specific, more intentional request for :

>

> " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence. "

>

> Is very very important for the following reasons :

>

> Amma, and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human race may become

> extinct. I may be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say so if this

> possibility is 1000 years from now. I feel there is an urgency and that

> is why Amma has Incarnated at this time as Kali. Amma also has said that

> there are wealthy nations which instigate wars [and no doubt terrorism]

> just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps, there are wealthy

> unscrupulous people of several nations that work together to keep the

> world in turmoil just so that they could be in control and accumulate

> more wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " You

> cannot change what you do not acknowledge. "

>

> In this type of situation it is time for all people of good will to

> stand up and speak out against war, against torture, against all

> violence and seek alternative approaches. Buddha, Christ, Gandhi, ML

> King, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have shown the way.

>

> America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

> wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

> Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

> other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

> Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

> " spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

> opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

> possibly save the human race from extinction.

>

> I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this very

> specifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.

>

> On a more personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a young

> man with a gun. Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but that

> we suffered little harm was Amma's Grace. I feel the robber

> suffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by the fear on this young

> man's face. Few days later we had to go to police station to look at

> pictures; there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could do

> was say some prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department of

> Peace and Domestic Non-violence " would go a long way to help these

> young men.

>

> In the world, America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and has

> the largest % of its citizens in prisons.

>

> May Amma Bless All Americans toward more positive concrete actions on

> the individual level and on the government level,

>

> amarnath

>

> Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !

>

> Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " Pranada

> Sylvis " <daughterpranada

> wrote:

> >

> > Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,

> >

> > Might we phrase it as:

> > " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?

> >

> > Jai Ma,

> > Pranada

> >

> > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc wrote:

> >

> > >

> > >

> > > Perhaps, this should be added to the prayer list:

> > > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence "

> > >

> > > thanks for listening

> > >

> > > Amma Bless,

> > > amarnath

> > > >>>>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I repeat, I am not insisting.

and if you feel uncomfortable,

then please do not put it on the prayer list.

 

Devotees have read my POV and can do as they are moved to do.

 

Thanks for listening.

Amma Bless,

amarnath

 

 

Ammachi , " Pranada Sylvis " <daughterpranada

wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya,

>

> I personally feel quite uncomfortable with praying for specific

agendas in

> specific governments, and I would not wish to ask others to pray for

that

> which makes them uncomfortable. However, I will put this out to the

group to

> decide, and defer to their decision.

>

> Jai Ma,

> Pranada

>

>

>

>

> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc wrote:

>

> >

> > Namaste Pranada,

> >

> > Since the situation in the world is very very grave,

> >

> > I feel that both should be included. But, I am not insisting.

> >

> > The more general prayer:

> >

> > " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence. "

> >

> > Is already partially include in the beautiful?

> >

> > " Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! "

> >

> > But, I also feel that the more specific, more intentional request

for :

> >

> > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence. "

> >

> > Is very very important for the following reasons :

> >

> > Amma, and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human race may

become

> > extinct. I may be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say so if this

> > possibility is 1000 years from now. I feel there is an urgency and

that

> > is why Amma has Incarnated at this time as Kali. Amma also has

said that

> > there are wealthy nations which instigate wars [and no doubt

terrorism]

> > just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps, there are wealthy

> > unscrupulous people of several nations that work together to keep the

> > world in turmoil just so that they could be in control and accumulate

> > more wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " You

> > cannot change what you do not acknowledge. "

> >

> > In this type of situation it is time for all people of good will to

> > stand up and speak out against war, against torture, against all

> > violence and seek alternative approaches. Buddha, Christ, Gandhi, ML

> > King, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have shown the way.

> >

> > America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

> > wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

> > Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

> > other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

> > Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

> > " spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

> > opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

> > possibly save the human race from extinction.

> >

> > I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this very

> > specifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.

> >

> > On a more personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a

young

> > man with a gun. Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but that

> > we suffered little harm was Amma's Grace. I feel the robber

> > suffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by the fear on this young

> > man's face. Few days later we had to go to police station to look at

> > pictures; there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could do

> > was say some prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department of

> > Peace and Domestic Non-violence " would go a long way to help these

> > young men.

> >

> > In the world, America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and has

> > the largest % of its citizens in prisons.

> >

> > May Amma Bless All Americans toward more positive concrete actions on

> > the individual level and on the government level,

> >

> > amarnath

> >

> > Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !

> >

> > Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " Pranada

> > Sylvis " <daughterpranada@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,

> > >

> > > Might we phrase it as:

> > > " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?

> > >

> > > Jai Ma,

> > > Pranada

> > >

> > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Perhaps, this should be added to the prayer list:

> > > > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence "

> > > >

> > > > thanks for listening

> > > >

> > > > Amma Bless,

> > > > amarnath

> > > > >>>>

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Namah Shivaya,

 

Perhaps it is only my imagination, but I'm sensing some frustration or

disappointment.

 

I do not wish to prescribe anyone's prayer sadhana, only to express my own

personal feelings on the matter. I am sure we all have our own understanding

of prayer, of what it is to request divine grace. My own feelings lead me to

keep prayer requests relatively neutral; this is done in a spirit of trying

to give space to everyone's different perspectives. Certainly I would not

want to dissuade anyone from praying with a whole heart for that in which

they deeply believe and that which gives them hope.

 

Amma tells a story, and I believe it is also a Zen koan, of a mahatma who is

asked to come and pray for someone's wife. The mahatma begins praying,

" Lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu. " The person who requested the prayer

becomes quite angry and says, " Hey, you aren't even mentioning my wife. " The

Mahatma responds with something like, " This is the only way I know to pray

for your wife. My understanding of the universe is that we are all one.

Therefore I cannot pray for one without praying for all. "

 

I have also heard of a study done in a hospital where volunteers were

assigned patients to pray for. In some cases, they were given specifics of

the patients' conditions and what was desired; in others, only the names. It

turned out that those patients who were prayed for only by name, with no

specifics, actually did better than the patients prayed for with specific

details. Perhaps it is a question of fully allowing for divine possibilities

we may not presently understand.

 

I have felt that a recent post of mine was taken as divisive, dualistic,

repressive, and silencing, and this has made me quite sad. I do not wish to

make anyone feel silenced. I was silenced as a child, and the thought that I

may have silenced others is quite upsetting for me. And division is entirely

the opposite of what I was trying to accomplish. I apologize deeply to those

who've felt silenced in any way by anything I've said.

 

Again, I am offering this to the group to decide together. I was clearly in

the minority with my attitude about what is being discussed on the list, and

I am open to the possibility that I am in the minority here as well. It may

be that I am simply not the prayer list coordinator this group is coming to

need, and I will gladly pass on the privilege of this seva to someone else

if my personal viewpoints are not shared and are causing people to feel

stifled in their prayer requests.

 

Jai Ma,

Pranada

 

 

 

 

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc wrote:

 

> I repeat, I am not insisting.

> and if you feel uncomfortable,

> then please do not put it on the prayer list.

>

> Devotees have read my POV and can do as they are moved to do.

>

> Thanks for listening.

> Amma Bless,

> amarnath

>

> Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " Pranada

> Sylvis " <daughterpranada

> wrote:

> >

> > Namah Shivaya,

> >

> > I personally feel quite uncomfortable with praying for specific

> agendas in

> > specific governments, and I would not wish to ask others to pray for

> that

> > which makes them uncomfortable. However, I will put this out to the

> group to

> > decide, and defer to their decision.

> >

> > Jai Ma,

> > Pranada

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 3:46 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > Namaste Pranada,

> > >

> > > Since the situation in the world is very very grave,

> > >

> > > I feel that both should be included. But, I am not insisting.

> > >

> > > The more general prayer:

> > >

> > > " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence. "

> > >

> > > Is already partially include in the beautiful?

> > >

> > > " Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! "

> > >

> > > But, I also feel that the more specific, more intentional request

> for :

> > >

> > > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence. "

> > >

> > > Is very very important for the following reasons :

> > >

> > > Amma, and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human race may

> become

> > > extinct. I may be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say so if this

> > > possibility is 1000 years from now. I feel there is an urgency and

> that

> > > is why Amma has Incarnated at this time as Kali. Amma also has

> said that

> > > there are wealthy nations which instigate wars [and no doubt

> terrorism]

> > > just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps, there are wealthy

> > > unscrupulous people of several nations that work together to keep the

> > > world in turmoil just so that they could be in control and accumulate

> > > more wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " You

> > > cannot change what you do not acknowledge. "

> > >

> > > In this type of situation it is time for all people of good will to

> > > stand up and speak out against war, against torture, against all

> > > violence and seek alternative approaches. Buddha, Christ, Gandhi, ML

> > > King, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have shown the way.

> > >

> > > America is the strongest nation in the world militarily and the

> > > wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and

> > > Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and

> > > other nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from

> > > Peace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few

> > > " spiritually sighted " people. And now seems to be a window of

> > > opportunity to work for this and make it come about in a few years and

> > > possibly save the human race from extinction.

> > >

> > > I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this very

> > > specifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.

> > >

> > > On a more personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a

> young

> > > man with a gun. Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but that

> > > we suffered little harm was Amma's Grace. I feel the robber

> > > suffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by the fear on this young

> > > man's face. Few days later we had to go to police station to look at

> > > pictures; there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could do

> > > was say some prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department of

> > > Peace and Domestic Non-violence " would go a long way to help these

> > > young men.

> > >

> > > In the world, America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and has

> > > the largest % of its citizens in prisons.

> > >

> > > May Amma Bless All Americans toward more positive concrete actions on

> > > the individual level and on the government level,

> > >

> > > amarnath

> > >

> > > Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !

> > >

> > > Ammachi <Ammachi%40> <Ammachi%

> 40>, " Pranada

> > > Sylvis " <daughterpranada@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,

> > > >

> > > > Might we phrase it as:

> > > > " That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?

> > > >

> > > > Jai Ma,

> > > > Pranada

> > > >

> > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Perhaps, this should be added to the prayer list:

> > > > > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence "

> > > > >

> > > > > thanks for listening

> > > > >

> > > > > Amma Bless,

> > > > > amarnath

> > > > > >>>>

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ammachi , " Pranada Sylvis " <daughterpranada

wrote:

>

> Namah Shivaya,

>

> Perhaps it is only my imagination, but I'm sensing some frustration or

> disappointment.

> >>>>

 

this is your projection mostly

 

my POV is that the person in charge should have the option, in this case

you

 

i agree with you, no one can pray for something they disagree with

so, perhaps it was my mistake requesting this for the prayer list

 

I could have posted my POV without bringing in the prayer list; sorry

 

so, my request now is " PLEASE DO NOT PUT IT ON THE LIST "

 

those who do feel comfortable with praying for this can do so, in any

case

 

so there is no need to make more of this or take a poll

everyone will do as they are moved anyway

 

Amma Bless,

amarnath

[Guest guest]

beloved, this child of AMMAs thought that veryone's prayer request was

honored.when did you all decide that prayer request had to pass a group

conscious?for my heart,praying for the entire world works ,but any way a person

can open their heart is good.my suggestion is to keep it simple and post what

has been requested.

 

Ammachi: daughterpranada: Wed, 19 Nov 2008

16:57:35 -0500Re: Re: Re : why we should pray for “U.S.

Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence”

 

 

 

Namah Shivaya,Perhaps it is only my imagination, but I'm sensing some

frustration ordisappointment.I do not wish to prescribe anyone's prayer sadhana,

only to express my ownpersonal feelings on the matter. I am sure we all have our

own understandingof prayer, of what it is to request divine grace. My own

feelings lead me tokeep prayer requests relatively neutral; this is done in a

spirit of tryingto give space to everyone's different perspectives. Certainly I

would notwant to dissuade anyone from praying with a whole heart for that in

whichthey deeply believe and that which gives them hope.Amma tells a story, and

I believe it is also a Zen koan, of a mahatma who isasked to come and pray for

someone's wife. The mahatma begins praying, " Lokah samastah sukhino bhavantu. "

The person who requested the prayerbecomes quite angry and says, " Hey, you

aren't even mentioning my wife. " TheMahatma responds with something like, " This

is the only way I know to prayfor your wife. My understanding of the universe is

that we are all one.Therefore I cannot pray for one without praying for all. " I

have also heard of a study done in a hospital where volunteers wereassigned

patients to pray for. In some cases, they were given specifics ofthe patients'

conditions and what was desired; in others, only the names. Itturned out that

those patients who were prayed for only by name, with nospecifics, actually did

better than the patients prayed for with specificdetails. Perhaps it is a

question of fully allowing for divine possibilitieswe may not presently

understand.I have felt that a recent post of mine was taken as divisive,

dualistic,repressive, and silencing, and this has made me quite sad. I do not

wish tomake anyone feel silenced. I was silenced as a child, and the thought

that Imay have silenced others is quite upsetting for me. And division is

entirelythe opposite of what I was trying to accomplish. I apologize deeply to

thosewho've felt silenced in any way by anything I've said.Again, I am offering

this to the group to decide together. I was clearly inthe minority with my

attitude about what is being discussed on the list, andI am open to the

possibility that I am in the minority here as well. It maybe that I am simply

not the prayer list coordinator this group is coming toneed, and I will gladly

pass on the privilege of this seva to someone elseif my personal viewpoints are

not shared and are causing people to feelstifled in their prayer requests.Jai

Ma,PranadaOn Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 4:05 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc

wrote:> I repeat, I am not insisting.> and if you feel uncomfortable,> then

please do not put it on the prayer list.>> Devotees have read my POV and can do

as they are moved to do.>> Thanks for listening.> Amma Bless,> amarnath>> --- In

Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " Pranada> Sylvis "

<daughterpranada> wrote:> >> > Namah Shivaya,> >> > I personally feel quite

uncomfortable with praying for specific> agendas in> > specific governments, and

I would not wish to ask others to pray for> that> > which makes them

uncomfortable. However, I will put this out to the> group to> > decide, and

defer to their decision.> >> > Jai Ma,> > Pranada> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 19,

2008 at 3:46 PM, amarnath <anatol_zinc wrote:> >> > >> > > Namaste

Pranada,> > >> > > Since the situation in the world is very very grave,> > >> >

> I feel that both should be included. But, I am not insisting.> > >> > > The

more general prayer:> > >> > > " That every nation may work towards peace and

non-violence. " > > >> > > Is already partially include in the beautiful?> > >> >

> " Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! " > > >> > > But, I also feel that the more

specific, more intentional request> for :> > >> > > " U.S. Department of Peace

and Domestic Non-Violence. " > > >> > > Is very very important for the following

reasons :> > >> > > Amma, and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human

race may> become> > > extinct. I may be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say

so if this> > > possibility is 1000 years from now. I feel there is an urgency

and> that> > > is why Amma has Incarnated at this time as Kali. Amma also has>

said that> > > there are wealthy nations which instigate wars [and no doubt>

terrorism]> > > just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps, there are

wealthy> > > unscrupulous people of several nations that work together to keep

the> > > world in turmoil just so that they could be in control and accumulate>

> > more wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " You> > > cannot

change what you do not acknowledge. " > > >> > > In this type of situation it is

time for all people of good will to> > > stand up and speak out against war,

against torture, against all> > > violence and seek alternative approaches.

Buddha, Christ, Gandhi, ML> > > King, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have

shown the way.> > >> > > America is the strongest nation in the world militarily

and the> > > wealthiest. America adapting a " U.S. Department of Peace and> > >

Domestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope for the world and> > > other

nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea came from> > > Peace

Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few> > > " spiritually sighted "

people. And now seems to be a window of> > > opportunity to work for this and

make it come about in a few years and> > > possibly save the human race from

extinction.> > >> > > I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this

very> > > specifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.> >

>> > > On a more personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a> young>

> > man with a gun. Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but that> > >

we suffered little harm was Amma's Grace. I feel the robber> > >

suffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by the fear on this young> > > man's

face. Few days later we had to go to police station to look at> > > pictures;

there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could do> > > was say some

prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department of> > > Peace and Domestic

Non-violence " would go a long way to help these> > > young men.> > >> > > In the

world, America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and has> > > the largest

% of its citizens in prisons.> > >> > > May Amma Bless All Americans toward more

positive concrete actions on> > > the individual level and on the government

level,> > >> > > amarnath> > >> > > Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !> > >> > >

Ammachi <Ammachi%40> <Ammachi%>

40>, " Pranada> > > Sylvis " <daughterpranada@>> > > wrote:> > > >>

> > > Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,> > > >> > > > Might we phrase it as:> > > > " That

every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?> > > >> > > > Jai Ma,> >

> > Pranada> > > >> > > > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc@

wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Perhaps, this should be added to the

prayer list:> > > > > " U.S. Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence " > > >

> >> > > > > thanks for listening> > > > >> > > > > Amma Bless,> > > > >

amarnath> > > > > >>>>> > >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]> >>> >

[Guest guest]

thankyou beloved.prayer is great.any excuse to open the heart is good,but let

our prayers be selfless and they we will be answered for sure.the reason " may

all beings in this world be peaceful and happy is so powerful " is because it

considerss the well being of all and is a selfless prayer,yet it includes even

the person praying.

 

anything that has its motive in good is a good thing,therefore i believe it is

good to pray for this suggested cause from our beloved brother.i also know that

when we pray for more courage,GOD will make us confront our fears.this is how

this prayer gets answered in my experience.

 

it is not about " POOF " ,if we pray the problem disapears!it is about praying so

our hearts open up and then we move into action.a lifestyle of prayer is real

prayer.all the masters have said this.AMMA says a compassionate person does not

need to worship a God.SHE also says that to truly worship HER feet is to LOVE

AND SERVE the poor.

 

i pray that our prayers are accompanied by a deeper commitment to serve.a

deeper commitment to love. a deeper commitment to give and to sacrifice.for

me,that is true prayer.

 

everyone says that they are so busy.that seems to be the western

mantra.if we all just did a little bit.a lot would get done!i am talking from

experience with AMMA.seeing how in HER HUGGING ONE AT A TIME.MILLIONS HAVE

RECIEVED HER HUG.

 

the solution is not in the government changing policy's.it is in us changing

the policy's of our selfish minds.people say that it is not humble to talk about

what service we do,but that is bullcrap.we have to let people know,in order that

they believe that a life style of service and sacrifice is possible.in this yuga

we have to shine light on as much good as possible to combat all the other

distractions.

 

LIVE A LIFE STYLE OF PRAYER!pray and move into some type of action and

surrender that action to AMMA.

 

there are 900 people on this and maybe more.why dont we we start a

service project!all it takes is one or two of us to do it and others will catch

on.

 

this is just an example.if all of us gave 10 dollars that would be 9,000

dollars towards the cause of our choice.but then people would ask questions

like.

has this been approved through the orginization? has this been okayed? why noy

do it and come to AMMA and tell HER we did it to please HER?

 

i know some of you must have non-profits.i have never recieved the

org.approval when AMMA has given me an idea.i just move on it.AMMA says to never

hesitate to do good!in time the orginization always comes around.

 

so how about it beloved AMMA .lets all PRAY BY UNITING IN A SERVICE

PROJECT!AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA................

 

LETS PLEASE OUR BELOVED AMMA.

 

 

 

Ammachi: anatol_zinc: Wed, 19 Nov 2008

20:46:55 +0000 Re : why we should pray for “U.S. Department of

Peace and Domestic Non-Violence”

 

 

 

Namaste Pranada,Since the situation in the world is very very grave,I feel that

both should be included. But, I am not insisting.The more general prayer: " That

every nation may work towards peace and non-violence. " Is already partially

include in the beautiful? " Lokah Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu! " But, I also feel that

the more specific, more intentional request for : " U.S. Department of Peace and

Domestic Non-Violence. " Is very very important for the following reasons :Amma,

and Tolle, both said that it is possible the human race may becomeextinct. I may

be wrong, but I don't feel Amma would say so if thispossibility is 1000 years

from now. I feel there is an urgency and thatis why Amma has Incarnated at this

time as Kali. Amma also has said thatthere are wealthy nations which instigate

wars [and no doubt terrorism]just to sell weapons and make a profit. Perhaps,

there are wealthyunscrupulous people of several nations that work together to

keep theworld in turmoil just so that they could be in control and

accumulatemore wealth. This boggles the mind, but like Dr Phil says, " Youcannot

change what you do not acknowledge. " In this type of situation it is time for all

people of good will tostand up and speak out against war, against torture,

against allviolence and seek alternative approaches. Buddha, Christ, Gandhi,

MLKing, Peace Pilgrim, Amma and many others have shown the way.America is the

strongest nation in the world militarily and thewealthiest. America adapting a

" U.S. Department of Peace andDomestic Non-violence " would signal a great hope

for the world andother nations would hopefully follow suit. This initial idea

came fromPeace Pilgrim some time ago and is now proposed by a few " spiritually

sighted " people. And now seems to be a window ofopportunity to work for this and

make it come about in a few years andpossibly save the human race from

extinction.I see no reason why one would not want to pray for this

veryspecifically. But, I am no insisting. Just voicing my personal POV.On a more

personal level, my wife and I recently were robbed by a youngman with a gun.

Obviously, that we were robbed was our karma, but thatwe suffered little harm

was Amma's Grace. I feel the robbersuffered/suffers a lot more as was evident by

the fear on this youngman's face. Few days later we had to go to police station

to look atpictures; there were so many young men in trouble. And all we could

dowas say some prayers for all of them. I feel a " U.S. Department ofPeace and

Domestic Non-violence " would go a long way to help theseyoung men.In the world,

America is the strongest militarily, wealthiest, and hasthe largest % of its

citizens in prisons.May Amma Bless All Americans toward more positive concrete

actions onthe individual level and on the government level,amarnathLokah

Samastah Sukhino Bhavantu !Ammachi , " Pranada Sylvis "

<daughterpranadawrote:>> Namah Shivaya, Amarnath,>> Might we phrase it as:>

" That every nation may work towards peace and non-violence " ?>> Jai Ma,>

Pranada>> On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 8:14 PM, amarnath anatol_zinc wrote:>> >>

>> > Perhaps, this should be added to the prayer list:> > " U.S. Department of

Peace and Domestic Non-Violence " > >> > thanks for listening> >> > Amma Bless,> >

amarnath> > >>>>

[Guest guest]

this is so silly.ALL people are AMMAs children.all prayer request should be

hononored.beloved armanath,your prayer request is just as valuable as anyone

else's.we say GOD BLESS AMERICA all the time.you should stand for what you

believe in.you are thinking to much.this is a good request.

 

 

 

 

 

Ammachi: anatol_zinc: Wed, 19 Nov 2008

22:17:31 +0000 Re: Re : why we should pray for “U.S.

Department of Peace and Domestic Non-Violence”

 

 

 

Ammachi , " Pranada Sylvis " <daughterpranadawrote:>>

Namah Shivaya,>> Perhaps it is only my imagination, but I'm sensing some

frustration or> disappointment.> >>>>this is your projection mostlymy POV is

that the person in charge should have the option, in this caseyoui agree with

you, no one can pray for something they disagree withso, perhaps it was my

mistake requesting this for the prayer listI could have posted my POV without

bringing in the prayer list; sorryso, my request now is " PLEASE DO NOT PUT IT ON

THE LIST " those who do feel comfortable with praying for this can do so, in

anycaseso there is no need to make more of this or take a polleveryone will do

as they are moved anywayAmma Bless,amarnath

 

 

 

 

 

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