to visvanathan about the comings and goings of people

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Dear Friends,

I can say why i stopped reading the posts every day. It was more of

this bickering...arguing.....so not what i wanted to spend my precious

extra time on. I joined because of my love for Amma, and my desire to do

good work in her name and connect with other like minded people. But this

group went thru a period of stress when some members from an anti Amma

group joined as devotees and started sending what felt like disrespectful

posts and fighting ensued...I have such little free time to spend that i

decided i would be better off to just sit and practice on my own, and

follow Amma's example to go out and do good work. I would love for this

group to go in a new direction...

In Amma's Service, mare

 

On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:44:34 EDT nierika writes:

> Dear visvanathan and all~ well stated. I can't say for sure that it

> was the

> dissension in the group that caused me to leave, although I'm sure

> it played

> a part.

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Namaste

 

dear Mare. . .thanks for explaining and sharing your experience of the

group and how it became off balance. . .may we all join and start fresh. . .

 

from your past experience. . .do you have any suggestions to help us move

back into a circle that embraces Amma's teachings in a fuller embrace. . . if

you have time please send your thoughts and wisdom from past experience and

from Amma's grace. . .

 

thanks you and may we proceed with Amma's light. . .

 

Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha

 

marci

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Om Namah Shivaya !

Namaste !

I also felt strongly that if we dont engage in responding to negativity, we all

who cherish to be, can be in this boat on the " Ocean of Love " ! 

Its great to see some old old fans come back.

Aum Amriteshwaryay Namah !

 

--- On Fri, 10/10/08, nierika <nierika wrote:

 

nierika <nierika

Re: to visvanathan about the comings and goings of people

Ammachi

Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:44 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear visvanathan and all~ well stated. I can't say for sure that it was the

dissension in the group that caused me to leave, although I'm sure it played

a part. Mostly, it was due to being very ill, and having low boundaries, and

despite my own intentions, I could not keep the negativity out. I am still

very sick, but I am stronger now. I believe if we simply do not engage in

responding to negativity, but just ignore it, it will begin to dissipate. (But

be

ready, if this is employed for the dissension to initially become even more

inflammatory. ) The more we respond, the more credence we give to it.

 

I returned because I love many of the people here, missed them, and missed

the connection with Amma. When I was in Silver City, NM, I began a year-long

effort to start a satsang. The group only wanted to watch Amma videos ... not

even discuss them, and they definitely didn't want to sing bhajans or discuss

any of what Temba has called the PRINCIPLES. I became too sick to attend, and

the group dwindled back to nothing.

 

It is my belief that we can steer this boat on the " Ocean of Love " (Amma

Bhajan) back into the light and represent, without sacrificing good discussion

and even sometimes disagreement, the PRINCIPLES that Temba speaks of. When I

first read about the PRINCIPLES in Temba's post, I understood immediately, and

what I related it to was employing the WITNESS. In the Witness state, there

are no judgements, no merry-go-'round of positive/negative polarity; there is

simply WHAT IS. This is one of the principles that Amma has taught very

directly, and when I am able to do it, I don't get pulled into the molasses of

sadness, fear, too much, too little, or any negativity. She has provided us with

very good fishing poles. Jai Ma ~ Linda

 

 

visvanathan wrote::

 

but as time passed we seemed to attract more and more of those who

loved to make trouble, and to attempt to sow dissension among the

devotees, even trying to draw them into EX Amma groups with their

provocative (and libelous) questions... attempting instead of praising

Amma, to denigrate Her and drag Her image through the mud of their own

sewerage.

 

and as a result a lot of the good devotees, the inspiring ones

departed the list in despair and disgust, unwilling to take part in

such a charged atmosphere.

 

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so much and he was thinking about you so strong and now you are

HERE!AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA....temba cannot

wait to share with you all that is happening!641-233-8255 please call when you

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Ammachi: avmm_99: Fri, 10 Oct 2008

08:38:06 -0700Re: Re: to visvanathan about the comings and

goings of people

 

 

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya ! Namaste !I also felt strongly that if we dont engage in

responding to negativity, we all who cherish to be, can be in this boat on the

" Ocean of Love " ! Its great to see some old old fans come back. Aum

Amriteshwaryay Namah ! --- On Fri, 10/10/08, nierika <nierika

wrote:nierika <nierika Re: to

visvanathan about the comings and goings of peopleTo:

Ammachi: Friday, October 10, 2008, 4:44 PMDear visvanathan

and all~ well stated. I can't say for sure that it was the dissension in the

group that caused me to leave, although I'm sure it played a part. Mostly, it

was due to being very ill, and having low boundaries, and despite my own

intentions, I could not keep the negativity out. I am still very sick, but I am

stronger now. I believe if we simply do not engage in responding to negativity,

but just ignore it, it will begin to dissipate. (But be ready, if this is

employed for the dissension to initially become even more inflammatory. ) The

more we respond, the more credence we give to it. I returned because I love many

of the people here, missed them, and missed the connection with Amma. When I was

in Silver City, NM, I began a year-long effort to start a satsang. The group

only wanted to watch Amma videos ... not even discuss them, and they definitely

didn't want to sing bhajans or discuss any of what Temba has called the

PRINCIPLES. I became too sick to attend, and the group dwindled back to

nothing.It is my belief that we can steer this boat on the " Ocean of Love " (Amma

Bhajan) back into the light and represent, without sacrificing good discussion

and even sometimes disagreement, the PRINCIPLES that Temba speaks of. When I

first read about the PRINCIPLES in Temba's post, I understood immediately, and

what I related it to was employing the WITNESS. In the Witness state, there are

no judgements, no merry-go-'round of positive/negative polarity; there is simply

WHAT IS. This is one of the principles that Amma has taught very directly, and

when I am able to do it, I don't get pulled into the molasses of sadness, fear,

too much, too little, or any negativity. She has provided us with very good

fishing poles. Jai Ma ~ Lindavisvanathan wrote::but as time passed we seemed to

attract more and more of those wholoved to make trouble, and to attempt to sow

dissension among thedevotees, even trying to draw them into EX Amma groups with

theirprovocative (and libelous) questions... attempting instead of praisingAmma,

to denigrate Her and drag Her image through the mud of their ownsewerage.and as

a result a lot of the good devotees, the inspiring onesdeparted the list in

despair and disgust, unwilling to take part insuch a charged

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