Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 IF these events between Temba and I were taking place in Satya Yuga, or even Treta Yuga, this is how it would have played out. Ideally, Temba would have been *moved* by earlier interactions between him and I, for Amma to bless me. But, realistically, what SHOULD have happened is that people on this list, would say to Temba: " Hey, why don't you HUMOR him, give him the benefit of the doubt and go to Amma for him. You'll be blessed either way by doing it, and it'll finally shut him up! " And Temba would go to Amma, with FULL SINCERITY and DEVOTION begging Amma to bless Tom: " Amma, my dearest brother Tom is in great need of your blessings. His persistence can only mean it's VERY SERIOUS, especially his outrageous attempts to get my attention. I am ignorant, and don't understand these things. I beg you to bless him with all he needs to be blessed with, please, please bless him. Tell me some good words to convey, if not some other blessing. He obviously has FAITH in my intercession, seeing how you have favored me. " (ARGH!!! is that so hard?) BUT, THIS IS KALI YUGA, so the best I can hope for is Temba going to Amma, half-hearted and irritated: " Amma, oh God, you have to do something with this guy. He's sooo negative. I just want to serve your children and this egoistic-crybaby won't stop harassing me! Please bless him with removing his ego and make him humble (blah blah blah). Such an insincere ego-hungry request would only get me a famously ambiguous answer from Amma, as your real *request* is for comfort (ie, feed your ego). Hence, in Kali Yuga, " Hypocrisy will be the only touchstone of goodness " . Temba himself, has claimed he might be a hypocrite. Nealu's reading of (one translation of) the Kali Yuga: tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Sorry Tom. . .truly do not know how to respond to this. . .and please forgive my ignorance and egoic attempt. . .hope you find peace. . .and trust that Amma will lead you through this. . .will send prayer and good thoughts your way. . .these words by Papaji i always find centering. . ..so will share them. . . Aum Amriteswaryai Namaha May you be gathered to Amma's compassion and grace. . .in all things. . ..and in all ways. . . marci * You are the unchangeable Awareness in which all activity takes place. . . * Always rest in peace. . . * You are eternal Being, unbounded and undivided. . . * Just keep quiet. . . * All is well. . . * Keep quiet Here and Now. . . * You are Happiness, your are Peace * You are Freedom . . . * Do no entertain any notions that you are in trouble. . . * BE KIND TO YOURSELF . . . * Open to your Heart, and Simply Be. . . Papaji Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > IF these events between Temba and I were taking > place in Satya Yuga, or even Treta Yuga, this is > how it would have played out. > > Ideally, Temba would have been *moved* by earlier > interactions between him and I, for Amma to bless me. > But, realistically, what SHOULD have happened is that > people on this list, would say to Temba: > > " Hey, why don't you HUMOR him, give him the benefit > of the doubt and go to Amma for him. You'll be > blessed either way by doing it, and it'll finally shut > him up! " > > And Temba would go to Amma, with FULL SINCERITY > and DEVOTION begging Amma to bless Tom: > > " Amma, my dearest brother Tom is in great need > of your blessings. His persistence can only > mean it's VERY SERIOUS, especially his outrageous > attempts to get my attention. I am ignorant, and don't > understand these things. I beg you to bless > him with all he needs to be blessed with, please, > please bless him. Tell me some good words to > convey, if not some other blessing. He obviously > has FAITH in my intercession, seeing how you have > favored me. " (ARGH!!! is that so hard?) > > BUT, THIS IS KALI YUGA, so the best I can hope for > is Temba going to Amma, half-hearted and irritated: > " Amma, oh God, you have to do something with this > guy. He's sooo negative. I just want to serve > your children and this egoistic-crybaby won't stop > harassing me! Please bless him with removing > his ego and make him humble (blah blah blah). > > Such an insincere ego-hungry request would only > get me a famously ambiguous answer from Amma, as > your real *request* is for comfort (ie, feed your ego). > > Hence, in Kali Yuga, " Hypocrisy will be the only > touchstone of goodness " . Temba himself, has > claimed he might be a hypocrite. > > Nealu's reading of (one translation of) the Kali Yuga: > > > tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 dear beloved tom,as you said you imagine what temba would do is this,however beloved as AMMAs devotee ,temba prays LOKAH SAMASTA SUKINU BHAVANTU.temba prays for ALL beings.he prays to the ONE in all.and beloved brother,AMMA says that the cycles of time exist within.if their is such thing as LOVE YUGA,that is what is in this heart for you. Ammachi: Mmrivertalk: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 04:13:04 +0000 Re: Satya Yuga: Through the looking-glass of quantum mechanics Sorry Tom. . .truly do not know how to respond to this. . .and pleaseforgive my ignorance and egoic attempt. . .hope you find peace. . .andtrust that Amma will lead you through this. . .will send prayer and goodthoughts your way. . .these words by Papaji i always find centering. ..so will share them. . .Aum Amriteswaryai NamahaMay you be gathered to Amma's compassion and grace. . .in all things. ..and in all ways. . .marci* You are the unchangeable Awareness in which all activity takesplace. . . * Always rest in peace. . . * You are eternalBeing, unbounded and undivided. . . * Just keep quiet. . . * Allis well. .. . * Keep quiet Here and Now. . . * You are Happiness,your are Peace * You are Freedom . . . * Do no entertain anynotions that you are in trouble. . . * BE KIND TO YOURSELF . . . * Open to your Heart, and Simply Be. . .Papaji--- In Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote:>> IF these events between Temba and I were taking> place in Satya Yuga, or even Treta Yuga, this is> how it would have played out.>> Ideally, Temba would have been *moved* by earlier> interactions between him and I, for Amma to bless me.> But, realistically, what SHOULD have happened is that> people on this list, would say to Temba:>> " Hey, why don't you HUMOR him, give him the benefit> of the doubt and go to Amma for him. You'll be> blessed either way by doing it, and it'll finally shut> him up! " >> And Temba would go to Amma, with FULL SINCERITY> and DEVOTION begging Amma to bless Tom:>> " Amma, my dearest brother Tom is in great need> of your blessings. His persistence can only> mean it's VERY SERIOUS, especially his outrageous> attempts to get my attention. I am ignorant, and don't> understand these things. I beg you to bless> him with all he needs to be blessed with, please,> please bless him. Tell me some good words to> convey, if not some other blessing. He obviously> has FAITH in my intercession, seeing how you have> favored me. " (ARGH!!! is that so hard?)>> BUT, THIS IS KALI YUGA, so the best I can hope for> is Temba going to Amma, half-hearted and irritated:> " Amma, oh God, you have to do something with this> guy. He's sooo negative. I just want to serve> your children and this egoistic-crybaby won't stop> harassing me! Please bless him with removing> his ego and make him humble (blah blah blah).>> Such an insincere ego-hungry request would only> get me a famously ambiguous answer from Amma, as> your real *request* is for comfort (ie, feed your ego).>> Hence, in Kali Yuga, " Hypocrisy will be the only> touchstone of goodness " . Temba himself, has> claimed he might be a hypocrite.>> Nealu's reading of (one translation of) the Kali Yuga:> tom>[Non-textportions of this message have been removed] _______________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68\ 1DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 yes it is so true that temba falls short all the time.in this he could be called a hypocrite.there is freedom in accepting where we fall short.there is great freedom in that beloved.you are doing a great job at manipulating people's minds.i see your games,but i also see your sickness.you seek places that will play your games with you.ok,beloved so lets play the game.you must really love temba,because you give him so much attention and power. Ammachi: tomgull: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 02:35:09 +0000 Satya Yuga: Through the looking-glass of quantum mechanics IF these events between Temba and I were takingplace in Satya Yuga, or even Treta Yuga, this ishow it would have played out.Ideally, Temba would have been *moved* by earlierinteractions between him and I, for Amma to bless me.But, realistically, what SHOULD have happened is thatpeople on this list, would say to Temba: " Hey, why don't you HUMOR him, give him the benefitof the doubt and go to Amma for him. You'll beblessed either way by doing it, and it'll finally shuthim up! " And Temba would go to Amma, with FULL SINCERITYand DEVOTION begging Amma to bless Tom: " Amma, my dearest brother Tom is in great needof your blessings. His persistence can onlymean it's VERY SERIOUS, especially his outrageousattempts to get my attention. I am ignorant, and don'tunderstand these things. I beg you to blesshim with all he needs to be blessed with, please,please bless him. Tell me some good words toconvey, if not some other blessing. He obviouslyhas FAITH in my intercession, seeing how you havefavored me. " (ARGH!!! is that so hard?)BUT, THIS IS KALI YUGA, so the best I can hope foris Temba going to Amma, half-hearted and irritated: " Amma, oh God, you have to do something with thisguy. He's sooo negative. I just want to serveyour children and this egoistic-crybaby won't stopharassing me! Please bless him with removing his ego and make him humble (blah blah blah).Such an insincere ego-hungry request would onlyget me a famously ambiguous answer from Amma, asyour real *request* is for comfort (ie, feed your ego).Hence, in Kali Yuga, " Hypocrisy will be the onlytouchstone of goodness " . Temba himself, hasclaimed he might be a hypocrite.Nealu's reading of (one translation of) the Kali Yuga:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXWzO_LbqOstom _______________ Stay up to date on your PC, the Web, and your mobile phone with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093185mrt/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 Temba, all your postings confirm you're a neo-advaitist, which says alot. And it's not I that give you power, it's all the sympathetic devotees that quickly prop up one that's on the verge of something big. Only, predictably (I've seen this many times in my life), they actually prevent real growth, because they're propping up the small self, instead of supporting the larger one. You won't do for me what Dayamrita did for you, but you do it for the homeless and the pine-ridgeans... noble, but typically political choices. tom Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: > > yes it is so true that temba falls short all the time.in this he could be called a hypocrite.there is freedom in accepting where we fall short.there is great freedom in that beloved.you are doing a great job at manipulating people's minds.i see your games,but i also see your sickness.you seek places that will play your games with you.ok,beloved so lets play the game.you must really love temba,because you give him so much attention and power. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 beloved tom,if it is not done for you through me ,then AMMA will do it through someone,or maybe even your very own heart.you cannot manipulate me tom.i have suffered to much.your game that you try to run is not effective.but all i now is that everytime you say something like this,i get an e-mai or phone call of support in one of the service projects that HER grace is doing through us. you have never once apologized to anyone for you ill statements and people have played your game of manipulation with you,but because i have played this game before myself ,it is so obvious.stop playing this game beloved brother.you will loose everytime. spirtutuallity 101 says that there is never justification in BLAMING anyone outside of yourself and because i know that you know this,AMMAs sun can see right through your manipulation games..you are GOD dear tom,you are GOD teaching temba what behavior NOT to participate in.thankyou so much and keep up the good(GOD) work..you ,or anyone else will not taint this HEART(AMMA).this heart will remain ETERNALLY UN-EFFECTED. Ammachi: tomgull: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:19:53 +0000 Re: Satya Yuga: Through the looking-glass of quantum mechanics Temba, all your postings confirm you're a neo-advaitist, which says alot.And it's not I that give you power, it's all the sympathetic devoteesthat quickly prop up one that's on the verge of something big. Only,predictably (I've seen this many times in my life), they actuallyprevent real growth, because they're propping up the small self,instead of supporting the larger one.You won't do for me what Dayamrita did for you, but you do it for thehomeless and the pine-ridgeans... noble, but typically political choices.tom--- In Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:> > yes it is so true that temba falls short all the time.in this hecould be called a hypocrite.there is freedom in accepting where wefall short.there is great freedom in that beloved.you are doing agreat job at manipulating people's minds.i see your games,but i alsosee your sickness.you seek places that will play your games withyou.ok,beloved so lets play the game.you must really lovetemba,because you give him so much attention and power.> > _______________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68\ 1DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2008 Report Share Posted October 10, 2008 and tom ,you have been on the path long enough to know that what you do for one,you do for ALL.AMMA loves the whole world,one hug at a time.SHE loves you to beloved tom.SHE is loving you so much right now through giving you a place to express your pain.you should be more grateful.you are just to un-grateful that is all. Ammachi: tomgull: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:19:53 +0000 Re: Satya Yuga: Through the looking-glass of quantum mechanics Temba, all your postings confirm you're a neo-advaitist, which says alot.And it's not I that give you power, it's all the sympathetic devoteesthat quickly prop up one that's on the verge of something big. Only,predictably (I've seen this many times in my life), they actuallyprevent real growth, because they're propping up the small self,instead of supporting the larger one.You won't do for me what Dayamrita did for you, but you do it for thehomeless and the pine-ridgeans... noble, but typically political choices.tom--- In Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:> > yes it is so true that temba falls short all the time.in this hecould be called a hypocrite.there is freedom in accepting where wefall short.there is great freedom in that beloved.you are doing agreat job at manipulating people's minds.i see your games,but i alsosee your sickness.you seek places that will play your games withyou.ok,beloved so lets play the game.you must really lovetemba,because you give him so much attention and power.> > _______________ Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F68\ 1DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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