Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 I was going to leave this to only the free speech zone, but since you're picking on a sister like you've picked on me, here goes: The following is typical in the Amma org when Amma gives a directive. It's a case study in the freak-out among devotees that creates a whirlwind of misinformation, gossip and confusion. Link to actual public discussion given below. 1. Dayamrita forwards a request from Amma, that *at SATSANGS*, you should no longer use any open flame. 2. Gossip, I mean *clarification* now says that you shouldn't use anything burning for SADHANA, not even incense or camphor. " At this time " implies astrological influences. But ok to use fire to cook. 3. Re-clarification from Amma's pujari in INDIA, re-affirms original directive, of no-open flames in satsang/group meetings. 4. More clarification, that the directive *possibly* (my word and emphasis) refers to Amma's vision WHILE AT SAN RAMON of a fire. California and fire (wild fires), what else is new? But that posting leaves open the idea that it's astrological, since it still recommends against any flame, coming from a Calif staff member. Please, anyone using candles or even incense should always keep a fire extinguisher handy as part of their sadhana stuff anyways. That and a spray bottle of rug cleaner if you're using oil lamps. But did they have to go through all that, going from something directed at satsangs (general safety measure) to being all-encompassing, back to satsangs, then back to generalism again (at least for Californians)? This kind of bs-telephone game happens offline too, newbies, so be fore-warned. And Chris's comment about drug use just proves the lack of evolution some devotees exhibit. I'm guessing BBS (bad birthstar), as Chris's behavior of diarrhea-of-the-mouth is typical among such people. Shortened link to original postings on Tribe: http://preview.tinyurl.com/6zze2x Ammachi , " ckeniley2003 " <ckeniley2003 wrote: > > Excuse me, but this is ironic. > > How many times did " Violet Doves " make her " drama " infused posts and > then deny she was the poster formerly known as Ananthasree? > > Beware, recreational drug use certainly does take its toll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 With all that I've read online, who can blame Ananthasree for hiding her identity? Her posts were not hateful at all, merely questioning the truth...as everyone should be. Follow, but don't do it blindly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 > too, newbies, so be fore-warned. > > And Chris's comment about drug use just proves > the lack of evolution some devotees exhibit. > I'm guessing BBS (bad birthstar), as Chris's > behavior of diarrhea-of-the-mouth is typical > among such people. > Tom, I will have to defer to your expertise on this issue. Thanks, Chris > Ammachi , " ckeniley2003 " <ckeniley2003@> wrote: > > > > Excuse me, but this is ironic. > > > > How many times did " Violet Doves " make her " drama " infused posts and > > then deny she was the poster formerly known as Ananthasree? > > > > Beware, recreational drug use certainly does take its toll. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 beloved tom,why do you in your wisdom still believe that you can fight fire with fire?what happens is that the flame simply gets bigger and bigger.if that is your goal then that's great!why not apply water to the flame beloved?why participate in the vicious cycle?you are not vicious beloved tom and neither are any of my beloved brothers and sisters.you all are all love.some are aware of this and some are not.that is the only difference. there is nothing on any spiritual path that condones the pointing of fingers at anyone.there are always more fingers pointing back at ourselves.why is this simple concept so hard to grasp?it takes courage to look at yourself.anyone who will not look at themselves is " asleep " and also " afraid'.your comments and others who comment such as this are simply sleeping and while you sleep you are dreaming that what you are saying is really that important. AMMAs main message is to LOVE AND SERVE and yet so many just want to continue serving their egos!when AMMAS sun announced that AMMA has announced to him that SHE is ready to build homes for the homeless in n.america no one commented,but when the drama surfaces,the egos get excited! what this child writes is not for the egos,but for the hearts who care about others and are concerned and willing to serve others.AMMAs suns beloved sister made him aware of the crisis that is occuring on the pine ridge reservation in s.dakota.PEOPLE ARE FREEZING TO DEATH!PEOPLE ARE STARVING!PEOPLE ARE SUFFERING ALCOHOLISM!THESE ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT ARE ORIGINAL TO THIS LAND.THEY ARE NOW THE POOREST NEXT TO HAITI IN THE WESTERN HEMISPERE.THIS IS HAPPENING RIGHT HERE IN THE U.S.A.. what you are talking about now is meaningless!itemba says this fearlessly!the inspiration behind this ,is the UNSTOPPABLE MOST COMPASSIONATTE MATA-AMRITANADAMAYI! HER message is to LOVE AND SERVE.AMMA even says that no bliss will be experienced in meditation unlesss we love and serve the less fortunate.you all keep sending out these meaningless post,it keeps AMMAs sun inspired and on fire.you help to remind me of what is really important.some people wait until the natural disaster occurs before they realize how PRECIUOS LIFE is.some people wait until they are on their DEATH BED.so many people are at that point of death and reflect back and regret all the time they wasted on nothing! SERVE LIFE AND LIVE NOW!AMMA WANTS US TO LOVE AND SERVE BECAUSE SHE WANTS US TO EXPERIENCE BLISS! LOVING AND SERVING IS THE DOORWAY THAT LEADS TO A LIFE OF FULLFILLMENT.THIS CAN BE EXPERIENCE BY ALL.THIS IS NOT SOME MYSTIC PHILOSOPHICAL THING.THIS IS PRACTICAL AND REAL AND VERY SIMPLE. LOVE,SERVE,LIFE,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA\ ,AMMA, IS FREEDOM. THIS IS THE MOKSHA ZONE!THE LIBERATION ZONE!THE AMMA zone!that is what THE FREE IN FREE SPEECH ZONE means to this child.the freedom that is sometimes refered to by us leads to BONDAGE!that is not the zone that any of us want to be in. ASK YOURSELF WHAT BEING FREE REALLY IS.AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA is freedom.LOVE IS FREED-OM..love you,ammas sun..... Ammachi: tomgull: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 11:06:25 +0000 Re: " Ananthasree " (No open flames, pun intended) I was going to leave this to only the free speech zone, but since you're picking on a sister like you've picked on me, here goes:The following is typical in the Amma org when Amma gives a directive. It's a case study in the freak-out among devotees that creates a whirlwind of misinformation, gossip and confusion. Link to actual public discussion given below.1. Dayamrita forwards a request from Amma, that *at SATSANGS*, you should no longer use any open flame. 2. Gossip, I mean *clarification* now says that you shouldn't use anything burning for SADHANA, not even incense or camphor. " At this time " implies astrological influences. Butok to use fire to cook.3. Re-clarification from Amma's pujari in INDIA, re-affirms original directive, of no-open flames in satsang/group meetings.4. More clarification, that the directive *possibly* (my word and emphasis) refers to Amma's vision WHILE AT SAN RAMON of a fire. California and fire (wild fires), what else is new? But that posting leaves open the idea that it's astrological, since it stillrecommends against any flame,coming from a Calif staff member.Please, anyone using candles or even incense should always keep a fire extinguisher handy as part of their sadhana stuff anyways. That and a spray bottle of rug cleaner if you're using oil lamps.But did they have to go through all that, going from something directed at satsangs (general safety measure) to being all-encompassing, back to satsangs, then back to generalism again (at least for Californians)?This kind of bs-telephone game happens offlinetoo, newbies, so be fore-warned.And Chris's comment about drug use just provesthe lack of evolution some devotees exhibit.I'm guessing BBS (bad birthstar), as Chris'sbehavior of diarrhea-of-the-mouth is typicalamong such people.Shortened link to original postings on Tribe:http://preview.tinyurl.com/6zze2x--- In Ammachi , " ckeniley2003 " <ckeniley2003 wrote:>> Excuse me, but this is ironic.> > How many times did " Violet Doves " make her " drama " infused posts and > then deny she was the poster formerly known as Ananthasree?> > Beware, recreational drug use certainly does take its toll. _______________ Your PC, mobile phone, and online services work together like never before. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/108587394/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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