Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Om Amriteshwaryai Namah ! " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him everything is an extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate anyone. " - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) Om Namah Sivaya ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 Is the Mahatma not human? P. Ammachi , " amarnath " <anatol_zinc wrote: > > Om Amriteshwaryai Namah ! > > " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all > circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him everything is an > extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate anyone. " > - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) > > Om Namah Sivaya ! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 of course the mahatma is human. Please explain what you mean by this On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, parzival35 <parzival2 wrote: > Is the Mahatma not human? > > P. > > > Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " amarnath " > <anatol_zinc wrote: > > > > Om Amriteshwaryai Namah ! > > > > " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all > > circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him everything is an > > extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate anyone. " > > - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) > > > > Om Namah Sivaya ! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 If the Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, then it seems possible that the Mahatma may experience anything at all, regardless of qualification, and may act in any way at all possible, including blame, criticism, or hate. This is not to say that the Mahatma's motivation is necessarily the same as that of everyone else. But it could be also. P. Ammachi , " Julia Milin " <juliamilin wrote: > > of course the mahatma is human. Please explain what you mean by this > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:44 AM, parzival35 <parzival2 wrote: > > > Is the Mahatma not human? > > > > P. > > > > > > Ammachi <Ammachi%40>, " amarnath " > > <anatol_zinc@> wrote: > > > > > > Om Amriteshwaryai Namah ! > > > > > > " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all > > > circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him everything is an > > > extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate anyone. " > > > - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) > > > > > > Om Namah Sivaya ! > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 1, 2008 Report Share Posted May 1, 2008 I would've thought the quote was a fancy way of saying a Mahatma experiences the self or 'atma' all the time, everywhere. The 'atma' or soul doesn't change or move, or was born or dies. The few times I've experienced everything I see as myself, that' what the unity was, everything else was still there (diversity), but it was all one. tom Ammachi , " parzival35 " <parzival2 wrote: > > If the Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, then it seems possible > that the Mahatma may experience anything at all, regardless of > qualification, and may act in any way at all possible, including > blame, criticism, or hate. > > This is not to say that the Mahatma's motivation is necessarily the > same as that of everyone else. But it could be also. > > P. > > > > " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all > > > > circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him > everything is an > > > > extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate > anyone. " > > > > - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I agree that a Mahatma can behave however any human might behave. A Mahatma would not choose to put self (or ideas of how one should behave) in place of the divine. For example, when Amma licked the lesions of the man who had leprosy, she could not explain the process to satisfy her assistants who were horrified; she just trusted the divine flowing through her. She said so, and she acted accordingly. I think blaming, criticizing and hating are behaviors resulting from not articulating the deeper experience in whatever brought about those reactions. Someone who is called " Mahatma " would be recognized for having reached a level of emotional maturity and so, more often than not, would probably not be engaging in such behaviors. Yet, that person called " Mahatma " would not fault self or others for necessary growth processes. Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > I would've thought the quote was a fancy > way of saying a Mahatma experiences the > self or 'atma' all the time, everywhere. > The 'atma' or soul doesn't change or move, > or was born or dies. The few times I've > experienced everything I see as myself, > that' what the unity was, everything else > was still there (diversity), but it was > all one. > > tom > > Ammachi , " parzival35 " <parzival2@> wrote: > > > > If the Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, then it seems possible > > that the Mahatma may experience anything at all, regardless of > > qualification, and may act in any way at all possible, including > > blame, criticism, or hate. > > > > This is not to say that the Mahatma's motivation is necessarily the > > same as that of everyone else. But it could be also. > > > > P. > > > > > > > " The Mahatma experiences unity in diversity, in everything, in all > > > > > circumstances, irrespective of time and place. For him > > everything is an > > > > > extension of his own Self. He cannot blame, criticize or hate > > anyone. " > > > > > - Ammachi, Awaken Children, Vol.4, p11 (0022) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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