Guest guest Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 OPRAH: Right, right. I had to learn years ago to let go of what had happened to me as a child because what I realized, you know, my grandmother, the people who took care of me did the best they knew how to do at the time. And if they had known better they would have done better. TOLLE: Yes, and that is always the case. Whatever humans have done to you, it's always they didn't know any better because they could only act according to their level of consciousness. Nobody can act beyond their level of consciousness. So you cannot expect your parents, if you believe they did something that was wrong, you cannot expect your parents to have acted beyond a level of consciousness. OPRAH: Cause that's all they knew. TOLLE: Yes. Jesus on the cross said it all when he says, " Forgive them, for they know not what they do, " which means they are unconscious. So when you realize that, you'll naturally forgive. OPRAH: That's what Jesus meant. TOLLE: Yes. If he had lived now he probably would've said, " They are unconscious. They don't know. " This rang a bell for me: Previously, long time ago, I was taught that there was 1) the " conscious thinking mind " and 2) the " subconscious mind " Now, it seems that what was previously referred to as the " conscious thinking mind " is actually " unconscious " and " egoic " and this makes a lot more sense in understanding what Jesus said on the cross " …they know NOT what they are doing. " because they are unconscious due to being lost in their thoughts with almost no Awareness present. The ego, which is identification with thoughts, is basically unconscious. And this seems totally consistent with what Amma teaches in " Awaken Children. " om, amarnath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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