Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 I personally, would like to see a little more of the funds raised go towards problems here in the West. Just last Sunday I was watching a news special about tithing, but it transitioned over to the topic of the U.S. Congress's concern about the finances of churches and the whole exempt status and inappropriate spending. Some of the churches that were asked for their financial records are refusing to turn them over. To my understanding, programs in the West like Mother's Kitchen and Circle of Love, and possibly others like Greenfriends(?) are pretty much if not entirely locally funded. And the ashrams charge market rent, so that should cover upkeep. If Congress goes to full-disclosure and it shows millions being collected here and sent overseas with little spent here, I don't think it'll look good for Amma's org in the West. At least not in the current economy and jobs going overseas as it is. I mean, Amma's organization isn't the only guru-based charitable group in India, not counting all the Christian other other outreach/relief groups. tom Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: (snipped) > AMMA has told me twice that SHE will build homes for homeless people in n.america.when i went to talk to HER about this again,AMMA told me that SHE still was working on the TSUNAMI situation and something as important as a project of this magnitude must have HER attention.SHE told me HER plan to do this spontaneously out the blue.i did not ask HER about it at all,except through devotional tears.i repeat!i did not ask AMMA about this at all.in fact,i asked HER something on an entire different topic.AMMA ignored my question and chose to share with me a glimpse of HER COMPASSION. > > AMMA will do this!HER WORDS are not just any words.HER words must manifest!this is my PERFECT FAITH!love you..............beloved children of AMMA.............................(snipped) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2008 Report Share Posted March 9, 2008 Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly... Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, Supriti Omenka Nnadi Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 VICTORY AND GLORY ETERNALLY TO HER MAGNIFICENT GRACE! Ammachi: oomenka: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:05:33 -0700 Re: Charitable works other than in India Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly...Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service,Supriti Omenka NnadiLooking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] _______________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your " fix " . http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus the entire World. It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have such an overload of illegals. tom Ammachi , Omenka Supriti Nnadi <oomenka wrote: > > Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly... > > Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, > > Supriti Omenka Nnadi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Let's see if I get it - so you are saying be calculative while donating your money and make sure you consider the race, national origin, political, economical factors etc. But help is an act of spontaneity & compassion - so what you say my friend unfortunately doesn't make a whole lot of sense. So please donate to whomever you feel like it without feeling guilty, help is in the act rather than the recipient. Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of > better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus > the entire World. > > It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. > > With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there > would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the > rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? > Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have > such an overload of illegals. > > tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Amma has donated $1 Million to the Clinton Katrina fund so She has not ignored us by any means. While it is true in our land of plenty, we do not even feed everyone when really we could. The other fact is that we have many social programs to help the poor. I realize not everyone is getting the help they need in spite of this. However, in India, there are no real social programs to cover these needs as we have-which is why widows go begging or starve to death. There is no social security, disability pay or the like. There is truly need everywhere. It's just SO much so we just all need to do as much as we can wherever we are to help others. That is the most we can do. in Amma, adriane Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote: > > > VICTORY AND GLORY ETERNALLY TO HER MAGNIFICENT GRACE! > > > Ammachi: oomenka: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:05:33 - 0700 Re: Charitable works other than in India > > > > > Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly...Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service,Supriti Omenka Nnadi-------------------------------- -Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 EXCELLENT SUPERB!AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA..........................MOTHER'\ S KITCHEN BEGAN WITH ONE MEAL.COL AND COLI BEGAN WITH ONE LETTER.INNOCENT DESIRE BEGAN WITH ONE PHONE CALL.SMALL ACTS OF KINDNESS WITH GREAT LOVE IS HOW MOTHER TERESA PUT IT..........AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA.......................... Ammachi: a1driane: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 01:25:39 +0000 Re: Charitable works other than in India Amma has donated $1 Million to the Clinton Katrina fund so She has not ignored us by any means. While it is true in our land of plenty, we do not even feed everyone when really we could. The other fact is that we have many social programs to help the poor. I realize not everyone is getting the help they need in spite of this. However, in India, there are no real social programs to cover these needs as we have-which is why widows go begging or starve to death. There is no social security, disability pay or the like. There is truly need everywhere. It's just SO much so we just all need to do as much as we can wherever we are to help others. That is the most we can do.in Amma,adriane--- In Ammachi , temba spirits <tembaspirits wrote:>> > VICTORY AND GLORY ETERNALLY TO HER MAGNIFICENT GRACE!> > > Ammachi: oomenka: Sun, 9 Mar 2008 11:05:33 -0700 Re: Charitable works other than in India> > > > > Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly...Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service,Supriti Omenka NnadiLooking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search.[Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > ________> Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your " fix " .> http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]> _______________ Need to know the score, the latest news, or you need your Hotmail®-get your " fix " . http://www.msnmobilefix.com/Default.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA,AMMA IS LOVE AND SO ARE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL OF YOU................ Ammachi: ravichivukula: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 00:19:03 +0000 Re: Charitable works other than in India Let's see if I get it - so you are saying be calculative while donatingyour money and make sure you consider the race, national origin,political, economical factors etc.But help is an act of spontaneity & compassion - so what you say myfriend unfortunately doesn't make a whole lot of sense.So please donate to whomever you feel like it without feeling guilty,help is in the act rather than the recipient.Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote:>> I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of> better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus> the entire World.>> It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not.>> With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there> would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the> rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries?> Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have> such an overload of illegals.>> tom _______________ Helping your favorite cause is as easy as instant messaging. You IM, we give. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/Home/?source=text_hotmail_join Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 No, actually you're putting words in my mouth. Ammachi , " Ravi Chivukula " <ravichivukula wrote: > > Let's see if I get it - so you are saying be calculative while donating > your money and make sure you consider the race, national origin, > political, economical factors etc. > > But help is an act of spontaneity & compassion - so what you say my > friend unfortunately doesn't make a whole lot of sense. > > So please donate to whomever you feel like it without feeling guilty, > help is in the act rather than the recipient. > > > Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of > > better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus > > the entire World. > > > > It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. > > > > With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there > > would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the > > rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? > > Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have > > such an overload of illegals. > > > > tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 Thanks for reminding me about the Clinton Katrina Fund, it's that kind of non-Indian aid I'm talking about. I wonder if any was given to Indonesia or wherever it hit the worst? As I mentioned in the initial posting, Amma's organization is not the only charitable group in India. You can check others like Karunamayi or Sai Baba's for outreach and the vast charity they do to the poor in India. So yes, there's great need, but certain things like Social Security need to come from infrastructure change, not a hand-out. And if Amma's devotees were so damn charitable, then why are so many still clinging to their high-life? Just to show you the Ammabot flames I've received, with name/email removed to show the respect that wasn't given me, editing the vulgarity: " TOM, You christian mole and bastard! You weep and cry with the popularity and spiritual power of Amma. I know you christian 'mole' bastard want to sabotage Amma's movement. Stop the sh**. For ages, you christian fu**ers cheated the World and looted it. " Feel the love of mere questioning the establishment. tom Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane wrote: > > Amma has donated $1 Million to the Clinton Katrina fund so She has > not ignored us by any means. While it is true in our land of plenty, > we do not even feed everyone when really we could. The other fact is > that we have many social programs to help the poor. I realize not > everyone is getting the help they need in spite of this. However, in > India, there are no real social programs to cover these needs as we > have-which is why widows go begging or starve to death. There is no > social security, disability pay or the like. There is truly need > everywhere. It's just SO much so we just all need to do as much as we > can wherever we are to help others. That is the most we can do. > > in Amma, > adriane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I am sure in time Amma will have works everywhere in the world. She does not work just in India. There is much in the U.S. already. I am sure you will see Her humanitarian efforts expanding in time as well. Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of > better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus > the entire World. > > It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. > > With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there > would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the > rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? > Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have > such an overload of illegals. > > tom > > > Ammachi , Omenka Supriti Nnadi <oomenka@> wrote: > > > > Amma's programs in the west are funded regularly through devoteees > donations, fund raisers, and in addition, Mother's kitchen is also run > mostly by donated money and food and volunteer time. Amma is spending > a lot in the west all the time. She has delegated to all the devotees > in the west the responsibility of charitable works. Mother's kitchens > feed a LOT of people weekly and monthly... > > > > Om Namashivaya - In Amma's service, > > > > Supriti Omenka Nnadi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 I apologize I probably misunderstood your rantings about Dayaamrita Swami, Washington DC Satsang and now illegal immigrants, Indians stealing American jobs hounding you. Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > No, actually you're putting words in my mouth. > > Ammachi , " Ravi Chivukula " ravichivukula@ > wrote: > > > > Let's see if I get it - so you are saying be calculative while donating > > your money and make sure you consider the race, national origin, > > political, economical factors etc. > > > > But help is an act of spontaneity & compassion - so what you say my > > friend unfortunately doesn't make a whole lot of sense. > > > > So please donate to whomever you feel like it without feeling guilty, > > help is in the act rather than the recipient. > > > > > > Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > > > I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack of > > > better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, versus > > > the entire World. > > > > > > It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. > > > > > > With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works there > > > would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in the > > > rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? > > > Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't have > > > such an overload of illegals. > > > > > > tom > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2008 Report Share Posted March 11, 2008 You won't be chuckling when Amma proves you wrong. That day is coming. No matter how long it takes, truth wins out in the end. And for the last time, stop misleading others by calling him swami. You're only boosting his ego and confusing those who don't know better. tom Ammachi , " Ravi Chivukula " <ravichivukula wrote: > > I apologize I probably misunderstood your rantings about Dayaamrita > Swami, Washington DC Satsang and now illegal immigrants, Indians > stealing American jobs hounding you. > > > Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > No, actually you're putting words in my mouth. > > > > Ammachi , " Ravi Chivukula " ravichivukula@ > > wrote: > > > > > > Let's see if I get it - so you are saying be calculative while > donating > > > your money and make sure you consider the race, national origin, > > > political, economical factors etc. > > > > > > But help is an act of spontaneity & compassion - so what you say my > > > friend unfortunately doesn't make a whole lot of sense. > > > > > > So please donate to whomever you feel like it without feeling > guilty, > > > help is in the act rather than the recipient. > > > > > > > > > Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull@> wrote: > > > > > > > > I'm trying to draw a distinction about the " General Fund " for lack > of > > > > better words, and that or " if " it's mainly directed at India, > versus > > > > the entire World. > > > > > > > > It seems that non-India projects are self-funded, devotees or not. > > > > > > > > With India's massive population, it seems like charitable works > there > > > > would be a bottomless pit, a never-ending excuse not to do more in > the > > > > rest of the world. And what about other Third World Countries? > > > > Direct more of it towards South America and maybe the US wouldn't > have > > > > such an overload of illegals. > > > > > > > > tom > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I agree - truth wins. All of us need a bogey man, otherwise we would be enlightened - let the drama continue. Ammachi , " tom " <tomgull wrote: > > You won't be chuckling when Amma proves you wrong. That day is > coming. No matter how long it takes, truth wins out in the end. > And for the last time, stop misleading others by calling him swami. > You're only boosting his ego and confusing those who don't know better. > > tom > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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