Guest guest Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 OM NAMAH SIVAYA in reading your posts Adriane. two words really stuck out to me. Grace and Faith. then i read the below story and it made me think that The Reality is Faith is the Grace. thanks for posting this. DISCIPLE Faith Can Work Miracles A great Guru who lived in a temple on the bank of a broad river and had many hundreds of disciples all over, once summoned all of them to him, saying that he wanted to see them all before his death which was to take place soon. The most favourite disciples of the great Guru who always lived with him grew anxious and always felt themselves close to him both day and night. For they thought that he might disclose to them at last the great secret which made him, so great, and all of them fearing lest they should miss the great opportunity, watchfully awaited the moment when the secret would be revealed. For though their Guru taught them many sacred Mantras they acquired no powers and hence thought that the Guru still kept himself the method which made him great. Disciples from everywhere also arrived every hour and waited with great expectation. Now a humble disciple who lived far way on the opposite side of the river also came. But the river which was in high floods was too turbulent even to allow boats to pass. However, the humble disciple must not wait as in the meanwhile the Guru may pass away. He should not tarry, but what was to be done? He knew that that Mantra which his Guru taught was all powerful and capable of anything. Such was his faith. So, chanting the Mantra with faith and devotion he walked over the river. All the disciples who saw this were surprised of his powers, and recognising him as the one who came long ago to their Guru and stayed but one day and went away after being taught something by him, all the disciples thought that the Guru gave him away the secret. They sternly demanded of their Guru the reason why he deceived them thus, though they served him in every humble manner for many years, and yielded the secret to a stranger who by the way came there for a day, long ago. The Guru with a smile, waved them to be calm, and summoning the humble disciple into his presence, ordered him to tell his disciples what he was taught by him long ago. The anxious group of disciples was taken aback with amazement when they heard him utter the name of " Kudu-Kudu " with awe, veneration and devotion. " Look " , said the Guru, " in it he believed that he got the clue of all " and that his Guru revealed to him the secret of all. And even so is he rewarded for his faith, concentration and devotion, but you always doubted that it was not all and that something remained unrevealed still though I told you Mantras of great powers. This distracted your concentration, and the idea of a great secret was in your mind. You were constantly thinking about the imperfection of the Mantra. This unintentional and unnoticed concentration upon the imperfection made you even imperfect. " JAI MA Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane wrote: > > Regarding spiritual practice: Amma says, 10% is our own efforts, 90% > is the guru's grace. > > > Ammachi , " temba spirits " <tembaspirits@> > wrote: > > > > " doing good deeds so that others will go to heaven " this is a most > beautiful > > thought. to act in this way is to be in heaven already. > thankyou for > > sahring this beloved kandar..... > > > > > > > > > > > " n2amma " <a1driane@> > > >Ammachi > > >Ammachi > > > Re: New poll for Ammachi > > >Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:54:01 -0000 > > > > > >Namah Shivaya, > > >I don't think it is correct to believe that spiritual practice > serves > > >no purpose. Perhaps it is correct in saying we should not want for > > >ourselves but only to serve the world as Amma teaches. However, > Amma > > >has told us that spiritual practice does serve a real, tangible > > >purpose-that of finding our real source of bliss and pure love. > > >However, our desire to attain this will also benefit all around us > > >like a ripple that continues to expand into the universe. Doing our > > >practice with pure devotion and faith with no expectation and > having > > >full trust that our guru will provide all that we need. " Thy will > be > > >done. " Surrending our will as instruments to our guru with full > trust > > >that everything we need, every experience we have is a part of our > > >spiritual growth. > > > > > >in Amma, > > >adriane > > > > > > > > >Ammachi , KandarW@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Jai: > > > > > > > > There is one answer the individual putting up the poll did not > > >include: > > > > > > > > Nothing! > > > > > > > > If you choose any of the given answers, you are doing Spiritual > > >Practices > > > > ... WITH A MOTIVE. > > > > > > > > Not the best way to do it. You might get limited gains, but they > > >will be > > > > limited. > > > > > > > > The better attitude in doing practices is to have no motive for > any > > >gain > > > > whatsoever. Only them will great gains be realized. > > > > > > > > It's very similar to doing good deeds towards others in order to > > >get " into > > > > heaven " or " be self realized " or " be enlightened " . You will not > > >make it. You > > > > are doing good deeds for something you want for your self. It > is > > >the ultimate > > > > act of selfishness. Your good deeds will benefit others but > they > > >are a wasted > > > > effort for your self. > > > > > > > > If you must have a motive, then do good deeds towards others so > > >they will > > > > get " into heaven " . > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswaryai Namah > > > > > > > > Kandar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > >http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 i enjoyed reading this story. I am reading Torrential Love by Swamini Krishnamrita Prana. I love these stories by the swamis and swaminis around Amma and cannot get enough. There is also a great story about a disciple and his guru and a poor man in the book. It is brimming over with every day stories of living with Amma. I cannot imagine how incredible that must be (and tiring!) (The story of her cooking in the kitchen with the spilled rice is about Swami Dayamrita.) It is fun and easy to read, yet full of profound observances of living with the Master. Ammachi , " ecjensen_us " <ecjensen_us wrote: > > OM NAMAH SIVAYA > > in reading your posts Adriane. two words really stuck out to me. > Grace and Faith. then i read the below story and it made me think > that The Reality is Faith is the Grace. thanks for posting this. > > DISCIPLE > > Faith Can Work Miracles > > A great Guru who lived in a temple on the bank of a broad river and > had many hundreds of disciples all over, once summoned all of them to > him, saying that he wanted to see them all before his death which was > to take place soon. > > The most favourite disciples of the great Guru who always lived with > him grew anxious and always felt themselves close to him both day and > night. For they thought that he might disclose to them at last the > great secret which made him, so great, and all of them fearing lest > they should miss the great opportunity, watchfully awaited the moment > when the secret would be revealed. > > For though their Guru taught them many sacred Mantras they acquired > no powers and hence thought that the Guru still kept himself the > method which made him great. Disciples from everywhere also arrived > every hour and waited with great expectation. > > Now a humble disciple who lived far way on the opposite side of the > river also came. But the river which was in high floods was too > turbulent even to allow boats to pass. However, the humble disciple > must not wait as in the meanwhile the Guru may pass away. > > He should not tarry, but what was to be done? He knew that that > Mantra which his Guru taught was all powerful and capable of > anything. Such was his faith. So, chanting the Mantra with faith and > devotion he walked over the river. > > All the disciples who saw this were surprised of his powers, and > recognising him as the one who came long ago to their Guru and stayed > but one day and went away after being taught something by him, all > the disciples thought that the Guru gave him away the secret. > > They sternly demanded of their Guru the reason why he deceived them > thus, though they served him in every humble manner for many years, > and yielded the secret to a stranger who by the way came there for a > day, long ago. > > The Guru with a smile, waved them to be calm, and summoning the > humble disciple into his presence, ordered him to tell his disciples > what he was taught by him long ago. > > The anxious group of disciples was taken aback with amazement when > they heard him utter the name of " Kudu-Kudu " with awe, veneration and > devotion. " Look " , said the Guru, " in it he believed that he got the > clue of all " and that his Guru revealed to him the secret of all. > > And even so is he rewarded for his faith, concentration and devotion, > but you always doubted that it was not all and that something > remained unrevealed still though I told you Mantras of great powers. > > This distracted your concentration, and the idea of a great secret > was in your mind. You were constantly thinking about the imperfection > of the Mantra. This unintentional and unnoticed concentration upon > the imperfection made you even imperfect. " > > JAI MA > > Ammachi , " n2amma " <a1driane@> wrote: > > > > Regarding spiritual practice: Amma says, 10% is our own efforts, 90% > > is the guru's grace. > > > > > > Ammachi , " temba spirits " <tembaspirits@> > > wrote: > > > > > > " doing good deeds so that others will go to heaven " this is a most > > beautiful > > > thought. to act in this way is to be in heaven already. > > thankyou for > > > sahring this beloved kandar..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " n2amma " <a1driane@> > > > >Ammachi > > > >Ammachi > > > > Re: New poll for Ammachi > > > >Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:54:01 -0000 > > > > > > > >Namah Shivaya, > > > >I don't think it is correct to believe that spiritual practice > > serves > > > >no purpose. Perhaps it is correct in saying we should not want for > > > >ourselves but only to serve the world as Amma teaches. However, > > Amma > > > >has told us that spiritual practice does serve a real, tangible > > > >purpose-that of finding our real source of bliss and pure love. > > > >However, our desire to attain this will also benefit all around us > > > >like a ripple that continues to expand into the universe. Doing our > > > >practice with pure devotion and faith with no expectation and > > having > > > >full trust that our guru will provide all that we need. " Thy will > > be > > > >done. " Surrending our will as instruments to our guru with full > > trust > > > >that everything we need, every experience we have is a part of our > > > >spiritual growth. > > > > > > > >in Amma, > > > >adriane > > > > > > > > > > > >Ammachi , KandarW@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Jai: > > > > > > > > > > There is one answer the individual putting up the poll did not > > > >include: > > > > > > > > > > Nothing! > > > > > > > > > > If you choose any of the given answers, you are doing Spiritual > > > >Practices > > > > > ... WITH A MOTIVE. > > > > > > > > > > Not the best way to do it. You might get limited gains, but they > > > >will be > > > > > limited. > > > > > > > > > > The better attitude in doing practices is to have no motive for > > any > > > >gain > > > > > whatsoever. Only them will great gains be realized. > > > > > > > > > > It's very similar to doing good deeds towards others in order to > > > >get " into > > > > > heaven " or " be self realized " or " be enlightened " . You will not > > > >make it. You > > > > > are doing good deeds for something you want for your self. It > > is > > > >the ultimate > > > > > act of selfishness. Your good deeds will benefit others but > > they > > > >are a wasted > > > > > effort for your self. > > > > > > > > > > If you must have a motive, then do good deeds towards others so > > > >they will > > > > > get " into heaven " . > > > > > > > > > > Aum Amriteswaryai Namah > > > > > > > > > > Kandar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > > > >http://www.aol.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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