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As much as I would not want to get into argument, I have to clarify that i have not launched insinuations against any specific group. Such illogical conclusions only show the automatic division that exists in your mind. I do discriminate against groups.

 

I may remind you that there are any number of irreverant Hindus who talk in public forums against Hinduism.

 

I only said that we should take legal action against any one who abuses our Religion, which did not happen so far with us, whereas it happens in other Communities.

 

For e.g., one of the Moslems has written against Islam in Bihar and he was booked under hurting the sentiments of the Moslems.

 

In any case, advocating legal action against the errant is not preaching hatred. It is one of the most civilized ways of defence.

 

I do not think you agree easily but that is my two pence.

 

Kishore patnaik

On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 12:47 AM, Vijay Narayana <vijay.narayana wrote:

Kishore, As much as i can understand your anger and fervor, could you please refrain from launching insinuating remarks against specific groups of society and people?

Swami never taught hatred. [4th point is so driven out of it]. I could be wrong.. but that said, i am offended that i am part of a forum that is openly discussing such things. May be its fine in some other forums which you have put in the mailing list.. but certainly not in saistudent group... and i am a part of it.

If you intend to respond, stop. think twice. I am least interested in a debate or argument here. so, dont go along targetting me.TO THE SAISTUDENTHYD GROUP: If the saistudenthyd group doesnt have a moderator, i request that one should be present and make sure appropriate content is sent to this. My opinion is that no sai-student-forums would like to indulge in criticism or attacks on any community (religious or otherwise). If anyone feels I have said anything wrong, pls let me know. I wouldnt mind unsubscribing to this.

Btw, just came across this rare video recording of an interview given by Swami to a few american devotees way back in 1978. its quite interesting (and rather cute) to hear swami speak in english :-)enjoy-Part1 : http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=_x44mpk_V2U & feature=related

Part2 : http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=F0aKzfC9uYc & feature=relatedPart3 : http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=LyU2GtvPtf8 & feature=related

ciaoVijay

 

 

 

On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 9:57 PM, kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear all, The only way to counter such people is to have multi pronged action plans. 1 Each one of us must spend some time in understanding and propagating our religion. This includes studying and teaching our scriptures, learning the past history and disseminating the greatness of our hoary culture.

2. The target groups must include all sections of the society, be they Hindus or not , but most specifically Hindus. The niche sections could be marginalized sections of the society, the middle class, the professionals and the movers and shakers. Each one of us should understand who they can work with best and ensure that maximum benefit is drawn in such an arena. The personal benefit should be sacrificed at all costs.

3. The scriptures must be made a part of our curriculum, For e.g., you will notice that the school texts teach the preachings of Buddha, Mahavira, Jesus Christ and Mohammed but they never write what is taught by Vedas, Upanishads and epics, which are in fact epict the greatest human values ever known to the mankind.

4. Last but least, most of us abhor proactive and offesnsive action against those who abuse Hinduism but it looks like the need of the hour is to be offensive, at least towards those who are abusing Hinduism in a pre planned way with malicious intentions, such as the Christians who propagate the falisifcations that Vedas are prior to Jesus Christ or most of today's Hinduism has its roots in Christianity etc. Unfortunately, most of such people who propagate these falsifications are Indian converted Chrsitians. There should be radical Hindu groups which should be encouraged to file criminal cases against such people and even those who falsify or abuse Hinduism in the name of art and literature such as MF Hussian

In any case, more unity and more awareness is essential on the part of common Hindu. Kindly acknowledge as the problem pertains to you, me and all of us. regards, Kishore patnaik

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