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---------- Forwarded message ----------Vedaprakash Vedaprakash <vedamvedaprakash

2008/12/23 Re:Mleccha Desa Kalinga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Incidentally, about " Kalinga " , discussion is giing on in another forum.The word " Kalingam " has the following meaning in Sangam literature: " கலிஙà¯à®•à®®à¯ " , சஙà¯à®• இலகà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¿à®²à¯ பலà¯à®ªà¯Šà®°à¯à®³à®¿à®²à¯ வழஙà¯à®•à®¿ வநà¯à®¤à¯à®³à¯à®³à®¤à¯:

1. கலிஙà¯à®•à®¤à¯‡à®šà®®à¯-பலவித ஆடைவகைகளைக௠கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®³à¯à®³à®¤à¯.2. பூவேலை, வணà¯à®£à®®à¯ பதிதà¯à®¤ தà¯à®£à®¿à®•à®³à¯3. மேலாடை.4. விரிபà¯à®ªà¯5.நீலநிறதà¯à®¤à¯à®£à®¿ - நாகபà¯à®ªà®¾à®®à¯à®ªà¯ " ஆய௠" அவனà¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯ கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¤à¯ ( " ஆயà¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯ கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¤à¯ " எனà¯à®±à®¾à®² சரியா? அத௠யாதோ மாதிரியாக உளà¯à®³à®¤à¯!)

நணà¯à®ªà®°à¯ à®’à®°à¯à®µà®°à¯, கலிஙà¯à®•à®®à¯ யானையினயà¯à®®à¯ கà¯à®±à®¿à®•à¯à®•à¯à®®à¯ எனà¯à®•à®¿à®±à®¾à®°à¯, ஆனால௠கà¯à®±à®¿à®ªà¯à®ªà¯ எதà¯à®µà¯à®®à¯ இலà¯à®²à¯ˆ.However, there is no such reference that it was a " Mlecha desha " !Is there any reference?--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

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---------- Forwarded message ----------Sreenadh <sreesogTue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:40 PM

Re:Mleccha Desa Kalinga

 

 

 

 

Dear Vedaprakash ji, * The text you provided in the message was rendered unreadable. Can you quote it again please. * I hope the other forum is hinducivilization group, or is it some other group you are pointing to? Please clarify, so that interested members can follow up.

Note 1: Kalinga and Ujjain does seem to have some connection to the Sindhu-Sarasvati civilization. But that is a conclusion we (astrologers) arrived at based on some internal reference in astrological books or from interpretation based on the same. Since our interest in history is just secondary - please don't ask for true historical references or evidence. But surely this could be a worthy pointer - I believe. The ancient astrological (as evident from Swastika etc) knowledge of non-aryan Sindhu-Sarasvati people who worshiped Siva and the mother goddess seems to have spread into and survived in places like Ujjain (Malva) and Kalinga it seems. From Saivaites later it got imparted to Jain (especially in Kalinga). It is also interesting to note that it is King Asoka who destroyed both these countries/cultures (i.e. Kalinga and Ujjain).

Note 2: Don't put too many questions on the same and drag me into an argumentation. I am not interested in the same. As mentioened earlier history is only my secondary interest. History interests me only as much as it helps me to understand the history and evolution of astrological knowledge.

Love and regards,Sreenadh

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Fwd: Re:Mleccha Desa Kalinga

 

 

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------Vedaprakash Vedaprakash <vedamvedaprakash >2008/12/23 Re:Mleccha Desa Kalinga

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Incidentally, about "Kalinga", discussion is giing on in another forum.The word "Kalingam" has the following meaning in Sangam literature:"கலிஙà¯à®•à®®à¯", சஙà¯à®• இலகà¯à®•à®¿à®¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¿à®²à¯ பலà¯à®ªà¯Šà®°à¯à®³à®¿à®²à¯ வழஙà¯à®•à®¿ வநà¯à®¤à¯à®³à¯à®³à®¤à¯:1. கலிஙà¯à®•à®¤à¯‡à®šà®®à¯-பலவித ஆடைவகைகளைக௠கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à¯à®³à¯à®³à®¤à¯.2. பூவேலை, வணà¯à®£à®®à¯ பதிதà¯à®¤ தà¯à®£à®¿à®•à®³à¯3. மேலாடை.4. விரிபà¯à®ªà¯5.நீலநிறதà¯à®¤à¯à®£à®¿ - நாகபà¯à®ªà®¾à®®à¯à®ªà¯ "ஆயà¯" அவனà¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯ கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¤à¯ ("ஆயà¯à®•à¯à®•à¯à®•à¯ கொடà¯à®¤à¯à®¤à®¤à¯" எனà¯à®±à®¾à®² சரியா? அத௠யாதோ மாதிரியாக உளà¯à®³à®¤à¯!)நணà¯à®ªà®°à¯ à®’à®°à¯à®µà®°à¯, கலிஙà¯à®•à®®à¯ யானையினயà¯à®®à¯ கà¯à®±à®¿à®•à¯à®•à¯à®®à¯ எனà¯à®•à®¿à®±à®¾à®°à¯, ஆனால௠கà¯à®±à®¿à®ªà¯à®ªà¯ எதà¯à®µà¯à®®à¯ இலà¯à®²à¯ˆ.However, there is no such reference that it was a "Mlecha desha"!Is there any reference?--- On Mon, 12/22/08, Sreenadh <sreesog > wrote: