Fwd: Yet another question for Jacob - on Malyan

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Indo-Eurasian_research , " Juha Savolainen "

<juhavs wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Jacob,

 

In your reply to Bob, you also mention that " the one wild idea

that I have is that Malyan has as extensive archives as Susa, just

waiting to be found. I really do expect that " .

 

So, perhaps I may indulge here a little bit of Jacob Dahl & #65533;

exegesis & #65533;

 

Am I correct if I view your " wild idea " as connected to the

idea that the main moving force behind the Proto-Elamite phenomenon

was not Susa but Malyan? And that no matter what the role of Uruk/Susa

was in providing the model for the inscriptions, Malyan was the main

urban center that tried to revive the trade and other exchange

networks after the implosion of Uruk expansion and after a likely

depopulation of Susa area?

 

Best regards, Juha

 

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Indo-Eurasian_research , jacob dahl

<jacob.dahl wrote:

 

Dear Juha,

 

As far as I understand it is the basic theory that Malyan was the

center of the later Elamite states. Who knows for the proto-Elamite

period. I don't know enough about Iranian archaeology to judge this

(D. T. Potts, The Archaeology of Iran (Cambridge UK: 1999) could be a

place to look, but I don't have access to it right now).

With Susa, Malyan, Sialk, and Yahya, I would say it is a pretty

extensive use of the same writing system. Or, if preferred,

mnemo-technic accounting system.

 

It is important to remember that nowhere in the proto-Elamite texts,

nor in the Uruk texts, or pre-writing texts (numerical and

numero-ideographical texts) do we have evidence of more than a

strictly local economy. Of course trade in some form existed (perhaps

not profit oriented in a modern sense, etc. etc.), but it is not

immediately related to the administration recorded on the

proto-Elamite tablets.

 

I am struggling with numerous simultaneous dead-lines, sorry for my

brevity in answering these questions.

 

Best wishes,

Jacob

 

 

Juha wrote:

>In your reply to Bob, you also mention that " the one wild idea

>that I have is that Malyan has as extensive archives as Susa, just

>waiting to be found. I really do expect that " .

>

>So, perhaps I may indulge here a little bit of Jacob Dahl & #65533;

>exegesis & #65533;

>

>Am I correct if I view your " wild idea " as connected to the

>idea that the main moving force behind the Proto-Elamite phenomenon

>was not Susa but Malyan? And that no matter what the role of Uruk/Susa

>was in providing the model for the inscriptions, Malyan was the main

>urban center that tried to revive the trade and other exchange

>networks after the implosion of Uruk expansion and after a likely

>depopulation of Susa area?

>