RE: [Ind-Arch] Some musings on Ancient Indian Geography

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Dear Kishore Ji,

 

You wrote:

 

>Gonaddha can very well be taken to stand for Gonadda-Gonarda,

>the place from which Patanjali , author of Mahabhashya, hailed.

>Sir RamaKrishna Bhandarkar has shown on the authority of the

>Mahabhashya that Saketa was situated on the road from Gonarda

>to Pataliputra (IA,II.7c) This is exactly in accordance with what

>the Sutta nipata says, for Saketa , according to the route taken

>by Bavarin's pupils was on the way from Gonaddha to the Magadha

>country. The native place of Patanjali was , there fore, in Central

>India, somewhere between Ujjain and Besnagar near Bhilsa.

 

I think there may be a stronger candidate for "Gonaddha" - that is the modern Gonda town of Eastern UP, separated by a few miles from the modern town of ayodhya on the other side of the Sarayu river. It will also make sense since sAketa in koshala will fall directly en-route when traveling from modern Gonda to pAtaliputra in magadha. Another reason in favour of this candidate is that the Gonda was central to many important bauddha sites including sAvatthI (shrAvastI), and therefore must have been better known to bauddha monks. Besides, being on confluence of several rivers, it was probably also a rather important harbour for traders, and therefore better known. By the way, traditional etymology of gonAddha/gonDA/gonArda is 'gonAda: the noise of cows'.

 

Best Regards

Sarvesh Tiwari

 

 

 

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Gonaddha (Gonaddhapura)

 

One of the places passed by Bâvarî's disciples on their way from Bâvarî's hermitage to see the Buddha at Râjagaha.

Between Gonaddha and their starting place lay

Patitthâna, Mâhissati and

Ujjeni, and the next stopping place after Gonaddha was Vedisâ. (Sn.vs.1011).

The Commentary (SnA.ii.583) says that Gonaddha was another name for Godhapura.

[Guest guest]

Patitthaana is Pratishtaana, the capital of Saatavaahanaas.Maahissati is Maahishmati and Ujjeni is modern Ujjain.

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.

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kishore patnaik <kishorepatnaik09 Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2008 5:15:30 PMRe: RE: [ind-Arch] Some musings on Ancient Indian Geography

 

 

 

 

Gonaddha (Gonaddhapura)

One of the places passed by Bàvarï's disciples on their way from Bàvarï's hermitage to see the Buddha at Ràjagaha.

Between Gonaddha and their starting place lay Patitthàna, Màhissati and Ujjeni, and the next stopping place after Gonaddha was Vedisà. (Sn.vs.1011) .

The Commentary (SnA.ii.583) says that Gonaddha was another name for Godhapura.

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Kishore,

Here's what I have on Bavari's disciples'

route.

I have a region = Gonarda ? E of SRAVASTI & AYODHYA,

between Gogra & Gandak Rs.

Or Godhapura = Godha = Godhra, PanchMahals, GUJ.

Pratisthana = Paithan,

Mahisati = Maheshwar on Narmada,

Ujjain & Vidisha.

 

Kathie

[Guest guest]

Dear Kishore,

I've just noticed on my Lonely Planet Road Atlas

that there is a small town between Ujjain & Vidisha

named Gunaga. 23 km. N of Bhopal.

I don't know anything about it, but

Godhra GUJ is out of the question and Gonda is way

off the route. If anyone knows anything of this site,

it might be worth looking into. Tropic of Cancer passes

through it. [answers.]

kathie

[Guest guest]

>

> Dear Kishore,

> I've just noticed on my Lonely Planet Road Atlas

> that there is a small town between Ujjain & Vidisha

> named Gunaga. 23 km. N of Bhopal.

> I don't know anything about it, but

> Godhra GUJ is out of the question and Gonda is way

> off the route. If anyone knows anything of this site,

> it might be worth looking into. Tropic of Cancer passes

> through it. [answers.]

> kathie

>

 

 

Dear Kathie,

 

thanks for the information. I supplement more:

 

This place is situated in Sehore, Madhya Pradesh, India, its

geographical coordinates are 23° 27' 0 " North, 77° 22' 0 " East and its

original name (with diacritics) is Gunaga. It is about 200 meters from

the tropic of Capricorn.

 

Interestingly, Gunaga is also a medieval Andhra King's surname.

Vijayaditya III Gunaga (or Gunaganka or Gunakenalla) was an Eastern

Chalukya king (844 AD -888 AD) ruling the Andhra Coastal area. It is

said that a Kannada work on prosody named Guna Ganikyam was dedicated

to him. This king had invaded Deccan.

 

regards,

 

Kishore patnaik

[Guest guest]

IndiaArchaeology , Sunil Bhattacharjya

<sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:

 

 

Dear Sarveshji,

�

How do you distinguish between Saketa and Ayodhya? Are they not the same?

�

Regards,

�

Sunil K. Bhattacharjya

 

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Sarvesh Tiwari <sarveshtiwari

RE: [ind-Arch] Some musings on Ancient Indian Geography

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Sunday, December 14, 2008, 12:56 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Kishore Ji,

�

You wrote:

�

>Gonaddha can very well be taken to stand for Gonadda-Gonarda,

>the place from which Patanjali , author of Mahabhashya, hailed.

>Sir RamaKrishna Bhandarkar has shown on the authority of the

>Mahabhashya that Saketa was situated on the road from Gonarda

>to Pataliputra (IA,II.7c) This is exactly in accordance with what

>the Sutta nipata says, for Saketa , according to the route taken

>by Bavarin's pupils was on the way from Gonaddha to the Magadha

>country. The native place of Patanjali was , there fore, in Central

>India, somewhere between Ujjain and Besnagar near Bhilsa.

�

I think there may be a stronger candidate for " Gonaddha " - that is�the

modern Gonda town of Eastern UP,�separated by a few miles from

the�modern town of ayodhya on the other side of the Sarayu river.�It

will also make sense since sAketa�in koshala will fall directly

en-route when traveling from�modern Gonda to pAtaliputra�in magadha.

Another�reason in favour of this�candidate is that the Gonda was

central to many important bauddha sites including�sAvatthI

(shrAvastI), and therefore must have been better known to bauddha

monks.� Besides, being on confluence of several rivers, it was

probably also a rather�important harbour for traders, and therefore

better known.� By the way, traditional etymology of gonAddha/gonDA/

gonArda�is 'gonAda: the noise of cows'.

�

Best Regards

Sarvesh Tiwari

�

 

 

 

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