Guest guest Posted January 6, 2008 Report Share Posted January 6, 2008 INDOLOGY , " Francesco Brighenti " <frabrig wrote: Dear Mr. Chavan, You will find some important contributions to the study of Ashoka and Buddhism in the e-book at http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/king_asoka.pdf (read especially the papers by Richard Gombrich, Romila Thapar, Ananda W.P. Guruge, and N.A. Jayawickrama.) Check out also the English rendering of Ashoka's Edicts at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/dhammika/wheel386.html (search for the term " buddh " in the page to find all the references to Buddha and Buddhism in the Edicts and in Ven. S. Dhammika's Introduction.) Kindest regards, Francesco Brighenti INDOLOGY , " Mahavir " <jainismus@> wrote: > > Ashok's Conversion: A Buddhist Myth? > > Recently I read a History text book published by NCERT for high > school students. In a chapter, there is lot of information about > Mouryan Emperor Ashok, but the book does not give any information on > his conversion to Buddhism. In the same chapter, while discussing > about Ashok's religion, the book gives some information on his > religion, but it doesn't mention anything about Buddhism. > > I have read some authentic books on Ashok's inscriptions. None of his > inscriptions mentions that he had adopted Buddhism. Most of his > inscriptions preach to donate to `Bramhins and Shramans'. Buddhists > present Ashok as opponent of Vedics, but here you clearly see that > Ashok shows his respect for Bramhins and that too at beginning. > Further the word Shraman means not only Buddhists, as there were 6 > major schools of Shramanic traditions including the most famous > Jainism and Ajivak philosophy. So if we see through his inscription, > we do not get any evidence of his conversion to Buddhism. Moreover we > do not get any evidence of his special attention towards Buddhism. > > Ashokas inscriptions are in Prakrit language, not in the Buddhist > Pali. Ashok has used the word `Dhamma' everywhere in his > inscriptions. It is originally a Prakrit word and was equivalently > used by all Shramanic traditions. > > The story of Ashok's conversion is found only in some Buddhist texts. > But it has not supported by any archaeological proofs. > > I would like to get comments from the scholars and learned students > of this subject. > > -M.S. Chavan > http://jainology.blogspot.com > --- End forwarded message --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 The myth of Ashoka bein Budhisst is based on the translation of the partial versefrom teh Rajtarangani. And that translation is clearly an intentional deception. the erse talks of Asoka a King of Kashmira becoming Buddhist, but it also clearly state sthat this Ashoka is the grand sonn of Sahkuni a Kins of Kashmira that period. The Historians have ignored the rest of teh verse and taken only the last portion to claim that Ashoka was Buddhist. So far as Thapar etall are concerned, she doe snot know Sanskrutaand only surces secondary literature. Ravindra , " Kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > INDOLOGY , " Francesco Brighenti " <frabrig@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Chavan, > > You will find some important contributions to the study of Ashoka > and Buddhism in the e-book at > > http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/king_asoka.pdf > (read especially the papers by Richard Gombrich, Romila Thapar, > Ananda W.P. Guruge, and N.A. Jayawickrama.) > > Check out also the English rendering of Ashoka's Edicts at > > http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/dhammika/wheel386.html > (search for the term " buddh " in the page to find all the references > to Buddha and Buddhism in the Edicts and in Ven. S. Dhammika's > Introduction.) > > Kindest regards, > Francesco Brighenti > > > > > INDOLOGY , " Mahavir " <jainismus@> wrote: > > > > Ashok's Conversion: A Buddhist Myth? > > > > Recently I read a History text book published by NCERT for high > > school students. In a chapter, there is lot of information about > > Mouryan Emperor Ashok, but the book does not give any information > on > > his conversion to Buddhism. In the same chapter, while discussing > > about Ashok's religion, the book gives some information on his > > religion, but it doesn't mention anything about Buddhism. > > > > I have read some authentic books on Ashok's inscriptions. None of > his > > inscriptions mentions that he had adopted Buddhism. Most of his > > inscriptions preach to donate to `Bramhins and Shramans'. > Buddhists > > present Ashok as opponent of Vedics, but here you clearly see that > > Ashok shows his respect for Bramhins and that too at beginning. > > Further the word Shraman means not only Buddhists, as there were 6 > > major schools of Shramanic traditions including the most famous > > Jainism and Ajivak philosophy. So if we see through his > inscription, > > we do not get any evidence of his conversion to Buddhism. Moreover > we > > do not get any evidence of his special attention towards Buddhism. > > > > Ashokas inscriptions are in Prakrit language, not in the Buddhist > > Pali. Ashok has used the word `Dhamma' everywhere in his > > inscriptions. It is originally a Prakrit word and was equivalently > > used by all Shramanic traditions. > > > > The story of Ashok's conversion is found only in some Buddhist > texts. > > But it has not supported by any archaeological proofs. > > > > I would like to get comments from the scholars and learned > students > > of this subject. > > > > -M.S. Chavan > > http://jainology.blogspot.com > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 [Moderator's note]Dear Rabinder, When you are sending your replies, please spell check and edit them for proper reading. More over, please supply the references whenever necessary and possible. That will ensure authenticity to your post as well better response from the group. regards, Kishore patnaik ModeratorOn Jan 27, 2008 1:43 PM, Dr. Rabinder K. Koul <arrk00 wrote: The myth of Ashoka bein Budhisst is based on the translation of the partial versefrom teh Rajtarangani. And that translation is clearly an intentional deception. the erse talks of Asoka a King of Kashmira becoming Buddhist, but it also clearly state sthat this Ashoka is the grand sonn of Sahkuni a Kins of Kashmira that period. The Historians have ignored the rest of teh verse and taken only the last portion to claim that Ashoka was Buddhist. So far as Thapar etall are concerned, she doe snot know Sanskrutaand only surces secondary literature. Ravindra , " Kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > INDOLOGY , " Francesco Brighenti " <frabrig@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Mr. Chavan, > > You will find some important contributions to the study of Ashoka > and Buddhism in the e-book at > > http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/king_asoka.pdf > (read especially the papers by Richard Gombrich, Romila Thapar, > Ananda W.P. Guruge, and N.A. Jayawickrama.) > > Check out also the English rendering of Ashoka's Edicts at > > http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/dhammika/wheel386.html > (search for the term " buddh " in the page to find all the references > to Buddha and Buddhism in the Edicts and in Ven. S. Dhammika's > Introduction.) > > Kindest regards, > Francesco Brighenti > > > > > INDOLOGY , " Mahavir " <jainismus@> wrote: > > > > Ashok's Conversion: A Buddhist Myth? > > > > Recently I read a History text book published by NCERT for high > > school students. In a chapter, there is lot of information about > > Mouryan Emperor Ashok, but the book does not give any information > on > > his conversion to Buddhism. In the same chapter, while discussing > > about Ashok's religion, the book gives some information on his > > religion, but it doesn't mention anything about Buddhism. > > > > I have read some authentic books on Ashok's inscriptions. None of > his > > inscriptions mentions that he had adopted Buddhism. Most of his > > inscriptions preach to donate to `Bramhins and Shramans'. > Buddhists > > present Ashok as opponent of Vedics, but here you clearly see that > > Ashok shows his respect for Bramhins and that too at beginning. > > Further the word Shraman means not only Buddhists, as there were 6 > > major schools of Shramanic traditions including the most famous > > Jainism and Ajivak philosophy. So if we see through his > inscription, > > we do not get any evidence of his conversion to Buddhism. Moreover > we > > do not get any evidence of his special attention towards Buddhism. > > > > Ashokas inscriptions are in Prakrit language, not in the Buddhist > > Pali. Ashok has used the word `Dhamma' everywhere in his > > inscriptions. It is originally a Prakrit word and was equivalently > > used by all Shramanic traditions. > > > > The story of Ashok's conversion is found only in some Buddhist > texts. > > But it has not supported by any archaeological proofs. > > > > I would like to get comments from the scholars and learned > students > > of this subject. > > > > -M.S. Chavan > > http://jainology.blogspot.com > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Kishore ji: The point is well taken. Thank you Rabinder , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > [Moderator's note] > > Dear Rabinder, > > When you are sending your replies, please spell check and edit them for > proper reading. More over, please supply the references whenever necessary > and possible. That will ensure authenticity to your post as well better > response from the group. > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > Moderator > > On Jan 27, 2008 1:43 PM, Dr. Rabinder K. Koul <arrk00 wrote: > > > > > The myth of Ashoka bein Budhisst is based on the translation of the > > partial versefrom teh Rajtarangani. And that translation is clearly an > > intentional deception. the erse talks of Asoka a King of Kashmira > > becoming Buddhist, but it also clearly state sthat this Ashoka is the > > grand sonn of Sahkuni a Kins of Kashmira that period. The Historians > > have ignored the rest of teh verse and taken only the last portion to > > claim that Ashoka was Buddhist. So far as Thapar etall are concerned, > > she doe snot know Sanskrutaand only surces secondary literature. > > Ravindra > > > > <% 40>, > > " Kishore patnaik " > > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > INDOLOGY <INDOLOGY% 40>, " Francesco > > Brighenti " <frabrig@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr. Chavan, > > > > > > You will find some important contributions to the study of Ashoka > > > and Buddhism in the e-book at > > > > > > http://www.buddhanet.net/pdf_file/king_asoka.pdf > > > (read especially the papers by Richard Gombrich, Romila Thapar, > > > Ananda W.P. Guruge, and N.A. Jayawickrama.) > > > > > > Check out also the English rendering of Ashoka's Edicts at > > > > > > http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/dhammika/wheel386.html > > > (search for the term " buddh " in the page to find all the references > > > to Buddha and Buddhism in the Edicts and in Ven. S. Dhammika's > > > Introduction.) > > > > > > Kindest regards, > > > Francesco Brighenti > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > INDOLOGY <INDOLOGY% 40>, " Mahavir " > > <jainismus@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Ashok's Conversion: A Buddhist Myth? > > > > > > > > Recently I read a History text book published by NCERT for high > > > > school students. In a chapter, there is lot of information about > > > > Mouryan Emperor Ashok, but the book does not give any information > > > on > > > > his conversion to Buddhism. In the same chapter, while discussing > > > > about Ashok's religion, the book gives some information on his > > > > religion, but it doesn't mention anything about Buddhism. > > > > > > > > I have read some authentic books on Ashok's inscriptions. None of > > > his > > > > inscriptions mentions that he had adopted Buddhism. Most of his > > > > inscriptions preach to donate to `Bramhins and Shramans'. > > > Buddhists > > > > present Ashok as opponent of Vedics, but here you clearly see that > > > > Ashok shows his respect for Bramhins and that too at beginning. > > > > Further the word Shraman means not only Buddhists, as there were 6 > > > > major schools of Shramanic traditions including the most famous > > > > Jainism and Ajivak philosophy. So if we see through his > > > inscription, > > > > we do not get any evidence of his conversion to Buddhism. Moreover > > > we > > > > do not get any evidence of his special attention towards Buddhism. > > > > > > > > Ashokas inscriptions are in Prakrit language, not in the Buddhist > > > > Pali. Ashok has used the word `Dhamma' everywhere in his > > > > inscriptions. It is originally a Prakrit word and was equivalently > > > > used by all Shramanic traditions. > > > > > > > > The story of Ashok's conversion is found only in some Buddhist > > > texts. > > > > But it has not supported by any archaeological proofs. > > > > > > > > I would like to get comments from the scholars and learned > > > students > > > > of this subject. > > > > > > > > -M.S. Chavan > > > > http://jainology.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > > > --- End forwarded message --- > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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