Guest guest Posted January 5, 2008 Report Share Posted January 5, 2008 Saryati, Saryati or SaryAta (Manava) is a king in Vedic history whose identification seems to be evading the scholar. In this post, I will be using the name Saryati to denote any /all of the above names and identities. I see that he is possibly connected to the early formation period of Vedic rituals. He taught the second day rituals to Angiras (the Asuric Brahmins who learnt rituals from the Ksatriyas: NabhAga, another kshatriya taught them the sixth day rituals) and perhaps for this reason, you would not find his name in any of the Upanishads. Several things are mentioned about him in Vedas, Brahmanas and Puranas, which is possibly making it more difficult to fix him. For e.g., his connection with the famous Haiheyas, as mentioned in MBh, was never established. Haiheyas are popularly accepted as Yadavas but Saryati was the son of Vaivasvata Manu at one place and (perhaps, another) Saryati was mentioned as Puru King in an encyclopedia. Even being a Puru king will not make him the direct ancestor of Yadavas. I remember reading elsewhere he was in the lineage Pracinvat-Saryati-Ahamyati but I am sure this description belongs to Samyati. Saryati is also mentioned as being the ancestor of AnArta (geographically, denoting Gujarat), Rewata and Raivata. This lineage dispersed thanks to Raksasas and the dispersed peoples were called as SaryatAs. Interestingly, both the clans mentioned above are related to river Narmada- Mahismati, the later capital of Haiheyas was on the banks of Narmada and Rewata shares his name with Narmada (cf Rewa) Thus, we can possibly assume that the dispersed peoples must have traversed along Narmada. Another prevalent connection of Saryati is with sage Cyavana. Saryati gives away his daughter to the aged and perhaps, blinded Cyavana, who becomes young again with the help of Aswins. He offers libation to the Aswins in return defying Indra's wishes. This story with variations had been told in kausikata, padma purana, MBh, Jaiminiya Br. and Satapata Br. Cyavana himself is difficult to place since he is connected with Sagara , the Ishwaku King on one hand and King Kusika (the grand father of Viswamitra) on the other. These two kings have good amount of time lag between them, unless Kusika is only an ancestor of Viswamitra and not grandfather. To complicate the issue, Cyavana also figures during the times of Kartavirya Arjuna also –he curses him. However, we have to agree that it is not uncommon for sages to appear across times, because they were recognized more by their Gotras than by their first names. Rg veda mentions that Madhu chandhas is the purohit of Saryati. Perhaps for this reason, since Viswamitras are Bhrigus, Saryati adopts the gotra of Brhigus. (there is another story of vita harya, a Haiheya king being converted into Brahminism, into the Gotra of Bhrigu. His son is the celebrated Grtsamada) The above makes things clear that he certainly belonged to the times of Viswamitra proper. Yet, under these circumstances, it is apparently difficult to fix the time. At most, we can say that SaryAta belongs to the lineage of Saryati , the son of Manu and has married his daughter to Cyavana, which still leaves many questions unanswered and many legends unexplained in terms of dating. I invite the corrections, references and views from the learned members. Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Re: In search of Saryati itranslator notattion R^ik veda maNDala 10 92 dvinavatitamaM sUktam (1-15) paNchadasarcasyaasya sUktasya maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH . vishve deva devataaH . jagatii ChandaH If you cannot find a single friendly neighbourhood pandit - purohit and you need to research from English language written records of Hindu history there would be problems and weird results. The least of this is whether or not somebody is chewing paan too or from which corner of India or globe he is from and can pronounce sibiliants sa sha Sha. Not so long ago the baraha kadi system for kids had concluding alphabet se sha sa ha tra Gya for correct pronounciation. maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH reference in Monier Williams under z under S it could lead to mean defaecation. ===> [ zAryAta ]1[ zAryAt'a ] m. patr. fr. [ zaryAti ] ( also pl. and [ 'I ] f. ) cf. RV. cf. Br. cf. Hariv. ---> ( with [ mAnava ] ) N. of the author of cf. RV. x , 92 cf. AitBr. cf. Anukr. ---> n. N. of various Sâmans cf. ÂrshBr. It may be a good idea to refer above citations in the original from original MW dictionary. Depending on the world's worst translations in English of Mahabharta or Veda or Purana? regards , " Kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Saryati, Saryati or SaryAta (Manava) is a king in Vedic history whose > identification seems to be evading the scholar. In this post, I will > be using the name Saryati to denote any /all of the above names and > identities. > > I see that he is possibly connected to the early formation period of > Vedic rituals. He taught the second day rituals to Angiras (the > Asuric Brahmins who learnt rituals from the Ksatriyas: NabhAga, > another kshatriya taught them the sixth day rituals) and perhaps for > this reason, you would not find his name in any of the Upanishads. > > Several things are mentioned about him in Vedas, Brahmanas and > Puranas, which is possibly making it more difficult to fix him. > > For e.g., his connection with the famous Haiheyas, as mentioned in > MBh, was never established. Haiheyas are popularly accepted as > Yadavas but Saryati was the son of Vaivasvata Manu at one place and > (perhaps, another) Saryati was mentioned as Puru King in an > encyclopedia. Even being a Puru king will not make him the direct > ancestor of Yadavas. I remember reading elsewhere he was in the > lineage Pracinvat-Saryati-Ahamyati but I am sure this description > belongs to Samyati. > > Saryati is also mentioned as being the ancestor of AnArta > (geographically, denoting Gujarat), Rewata and Raivata. This lineage > dispersed thanks to Raksasas and the dispersed peoples were called as > SaryatAs. > > Interestingly, both the clans mentioned above are related to river > Narmada- Mahismati, the later capital of Haiheyas was on the banks of > Narmada and Rewata shares his name with Narmada (cf Rewa) Thus, we > can possibly assume that the dispersed peoples must have traversed > along Narmada. > > Another prevalent connection of Saryati is with sage Cyavana. > Saryati gives away his daughter to the aged and perhaps, blinded > Cyavana, who becomes young again with the help of Aswins. He offers > libation to the Aswins in return defying Indra's wishes. This story > with variations had been told in kausikata, padma purana, MBh, > Jaiminiya Br. and Satapata Br. > > Cyavana himself is difficult to place since he is connected with > Sagara , the Ishwaku King on one hand and King Kusika (the grand > father of Viswamitra) on the other. These two kings have good amount > of time lag between them, unless Kusika is only an ancestor of > Viswamitra and not grandfather. To complicate the issue, Cyavana > also figures during the times of Kartavirya Arjuna also –he curses > him. However, we have to agree that it is not uncommon for sages to > appear across times, because they were recognized more by their > Gotras than by their first names. > > Rg veda mentions that Madhu chandhas is the purohit of Saryati. > Perhaps for this reason, since Viswamitras are Bhrigus, Saryati > adopts the gotra of Brhigus. (there is another story of vita harya, > a Haiheya king being converted into Brahminism, into the Gotra of > Bhrigu. His son is the celebrated Grtsamada) The above makes things > clear that he certainly belonged to the times of Viswamitra proper. > > Yet, under these circumstances, it is apparently difficult to fix the > time. At most, we can say that SaryAta belongs to the lineage of > Saryati , the son of Manu and has married his daughter to Cyavana, > which still leaves many questions unanswered and many legends > unexplained in terms of dating. > > > I invite the corrections, references and views from the learned > members. > > > Kishore patnaik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 All the standard Translators are well aware of the nuances of the Indian Varnamala- the proper word for alphabet. In fact, some of the encyclopaedias on puranas etc., though published in English follow the order of Sanskrit alphabet. Thus,Viswamitra comes after yayAti in such dictionaries. of course, the change that i notice in today's spelling is that the sa as in Viswa is no more written as sha (like in Vishwa) As per my post, the mix up is deliberate. Coming to my research, I refer to several standard encyclopaediae and indexes, most of them from the house of MLBD. apart from the standard texts on primary information. I have noticed saryAta, SharyAta(i)and even Caryata but no Zaryata. Please check at your end. Kishore patnaik , " kedarnath " <jkedarnath99 wrote: > > Re: In search of Saryati > > > itranslator notattion > > R^ik veda maNDala 10 > 92 dvinavatitamaM sUktam > > (1-15) paNchadasarcasyaasya sUktasya maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH . > vishve deva devataaH . jagatii ChandaH > > If you cannot find a single friendly neighbourhood pandit - purohit > and you need to research from English language written records of > Hindu history there would be problems and weird results. > > The least of this is whether or not somebody is chewing paan too or > from which corner of India or globe he is from and can pronounce > sibiliants sa sha Sha. Not so long ago the baraha kadi system for > kids had concluding alphabet se sha sa ha tra Gya for correct > pronounciation. > > maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH reference in Monier Williams under z under > S it could lead to mean defaecation. > > ===> [ zAryAta ]1[ zAryAt'a ] m. patr. fr. [ zaryAti ] ( also pl. and > [ 'I ] f. ) cf. RV. cf. Br. cf. Hariv. > ---> ( with [ mAnava ] ) N. of the author of cf. RV. x , 92 cf. > AitBr. cf. Anukr. > ---> n. N. of various Sâmans cf. ÂrshBr. > > It may be a good idea to refer above citations in the original from > original MW dictionary. Depending on the world's worst translations > in English of Mahabharta or Veda or Purana? > > regards > > > , " Kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > Saryati, Saryati or SaryAta (Manava) is a king in Vedic history > whose > > identification seems to be evading the scholar. In this post, I > will > > be using the name Saryati to denote any /all of the above names and > > identities. > > > > I see that he is possibly connected to the early formation period > of > > Vedic rituals. He taught the second day rituals to Angiras (the > > Asuric Brahmins who learnt rituals from the Ksatriyas: NabhAga, > > another kshatriya taught them the sixth day rituals) and perhaps > for > > this reason, you would not find his name in any of the Upanishads. > > > > Several things are mentioned about him in Vedas, Brahmanas and > > Puranas, which is possibly making it more difficult to fix him. > > > > For e.g., his connection with the famous Haiheyas, as mentioned in > > MBh, was never established. Haiheyas are popularly accepted as > > Yadavas but Saryati was the son of Vaivasvata Manu at one place and > > (perhaps, another) Saryati was mentioned as Puru King in an > > encyclopedia. Even being a Puru king will not make him the direct > > ancestor of Yadavas. I remember reading elsewhere he was in the > > lineage Pracinvat-Saryati-Ahamyati but I am sure this description > > belongs to Samyati. > > > > Saryati is also mentioned as being the ancestor of AnArta > > (geographically, denoting Gujarat), Rewata and Raivata. This > lineage > > dispersed thanks to Raksasas and the dispersed peoples were called > as > > SaryatAs. > > > > Interestingly, both the clans mentioned above are related to river > > Narmada- Mahismati, the later capital of Haiheyas was on the banks > of > > Narmada and Rewata shares his name with Narmada (cf Rewa) Thus, we > > can possibly assume that the dispersed peoples must have traversed > > along Narmada. > > > > Another prevalent connection of Saryati is with sage Cyavana. > > Saryati gives away his daughter to the aged and perhaps, blinded > > Cyavana, who becomes young again with the help of Aswins. He > offers > > libation to the Aswins in return defying Indra's wishes. This > story > > with variations had been told in kausikata, padma purana, MBh, > > Jaiminiya Br. and Satapata Br. > > > > Cyavana himself is difficult to place since he is connected with > > Sagara , the Ishwaku King on one hand and King Kusika (the grand > > father of Viswamitra) on the other. These two kings have good > amount > > of time lag between them, unless Kusika is only an ancestor of > > Viswamitra and not grandfather. To complicate the issue, Cyavana > > also figures during the times of Kartavirya Arjuna also –he curses > > him. However, we have to agree that it is not uncommon for sages > to > > appear across times, because they were recognized more by their > > Gotras than by their first names. > > > > Rg veda mentions that Madhu chandhas is the purohit of Saryati. > > Perhaps for this reason, since Viswamitras are Bhrigus, Saryati > > adopts the gotra of Brhigus. (there is another story of vita > harya, > > a Haiheya king being converted into Brahminism, into the Gotra of > > Bhrigu. His son is the celebrated Grtsamada) The above makes > things > > clear that he certainly belonged to the times of Viswamitra proper. > > > > Yet, under these circumstances, it is apparently difficult to fix > the > > time. At most, we can say that SaryAta belongs to the lineage of > > Saryati , the son of Manu and has married his daughter to Cyavana, > > which still leaves many questions unanswered and many legends > > unexplained in terms of dating. > > > > > > I invite the corrections, references and views from the learned > > members. > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 namasthe, kindly look up under z in monier williams sanskrit engilsh dictionary. regards , " Kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > All the standard Translators are well aware of the nuances of the > Indian Varnamala- the proper word for alphabet. > > In fact, some of the encyclopaedias on puranas etc., though published > in English follow the order of Sanskrit alphabet. Thus,Viswamitra > comes after yayAti in such dictionaries. > > of course, the change that i notice in today's spelling is that the > sa as in Viswa is no more written as sha (like in Vishwa) > > As per my post, the mix up is deliberate. > > Coming to my research, I refer to several standard encyclopaediae and > indexes, most of them from the house of MLBD. apart from the standard > texts on primary information. > > I have noticed saryAta, SharyAta(i)and even Caryata but no Zaryata. > > Please check at your end. > > Kishore patnaik > > , " kedarnath " <jkedarnath99@> > wrote: > > > > Re: In search of Saryati > > > > > > itranslator notattion > > > > R^ik veda maNDala 10 > > 92 dvinavatitamaM sUktam > > > > (1-15) paNchadasarcasyaasya sUktasya maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH . > > vishve deva devataaH . jagatii ChandaH > > > > If you cannot find a single friendly neighbourhood pandit - purohit > > and you need to research from English language written records of > > Hindu history there would be problems and weird results. > > > > The least of this is whether or not somebody is chewing paan too or > > from which corner of India or globe he is from and can pronounce > > sibiliants sa sha Sha. Not so long ago the baraha kadi system for > > kids had concluding alphabet se sha sa ha tra Gya for correct > > pronounciation. > > > > maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH reference in Monier Williams under z > under > > S it could lead to mean defaecation. > > > > ===> [ zAryAta ]1[ zAryAt'a ] m. patr. fr. [ zaryAti ] ( also pl. > and > > [ 'I ] f. ) cf. RV. cf. Br. cf. Hariv. > > ---> ( with [ mAnava ] ) N. of the author of cf. RV. x , 92 cf. > > AitBr. cf. Anukr. > > ---> n. N. of various Sâmans cf. ÂrshBr. > > > > It may be a good idea to refer above citations in the original from > > original MW dictionary. Depending on the world's worst translations > > in English of Mahabharta or Veda or Purana? > > > > regards > > > > > > , " Kishore patnaik " > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > Saryati, Saryati or SaryAta (Manava) is a king in Vedic history > > whose > > > identification seems to be evading the scholar. In this post, I > > will > > > be using the name Saryati to denote any /all of the above names > and > > > identities. > > > > > > I see that he is possibly connected to the early formation period > > of > > > Vedic rituals. He taught the second day rituals to Angiras (the > > > Asuric Brahmins who learnt rituals from the Ksatriyas: NabhAga, > > > another kshatriya taught them the sixth day rituals) and perhaps > > for > > > this reason, you would not find his name in any of the > Upanishads. > > > > > > Several things are mentioned about him in Vedas, Brahmanas and > > > Puranas, which is possibly making it more difficult to fix him. > > > > > > For e.g., his connection with the famous Haiheyas, as mentioned > in > > > MBh, was never established. Haiheyas are popularly accepted as > > > Yadavas but Saryati was the son of Vaivasvata Manu at one place > and > > > (perhaps, another) Saryati was mentioned as Puru King in an > > > encyclopedia. Even being a Puru king will not make him the direct > > > ancestor of Yadavas. I remember reading elsewhere he was in the > > > lineage Pracinvat-Saryati-Ahamyati but I am sure this description > > > belongs to Samyati. > > > > > > Saryati is also mentioned as being the ancestor of AnArta > > > (geographically, denoting Gujarat), Rewata and Raivata. This > > lineage > > > dispersed thanks to Raksasas and the dispersed peoples were > called > > as > > > SaryatAs. > > > > > > Interestingly, both the clans mentioned above are related to > river > > > Narmada- Mahismati, the later capital of Haiheyas was on the > banks > > of > > > Narmada and Rewata shares his name with Narmada (cf Rewa) Thus, > we > > > can possibly assume that the dispersed peoples must have > traversed > > > along Narmada. > > > > > > Another prevalent connection of Saryati is with sage Cyavana. > > > Saryati gives away his daughter to the aged and perhaps, blinded > > > Cyavana, who becomes young again with the help of Aswins. He > > offers > > > libation to the Aswins in return defying Indra's wishes. This > > story > > > with variations had been told in kausikata, padma purana, MBh, > > > Jaiminiya Br. and Satapata Br. > > > > > > Cyavana himself is difficult to place since he is connected with > > > Sagara , the Ishwaku King on one hand and King Kusika (the grand > > > father of Viswamitra) on the other. These two kings have good > > amount > > > of time lag between them, unless Kusika is only an ancestor of > > > Viswamitra and not grandfather. To complicate the issue, > Cyavana > > > also figures during the times of Kartavirya Arjuna also –he > curses > > > him. However, we have to agree that it is not uncommon for sages > > to > > > appear across times, because they were recognized more by their > > > Gotras than by their first names. > > > > > > Rg veda mentions that Madhu chandhas is the purohit of Saryati. > > > Perhaps for this reason, since Viswamitras are Bhrigus, Saryati > > > adopts the gotra of Brhigus. (there is another story of vita > > harya, > > > a Haiheya king being converted into Brahminism, into the Gotra > of > > > Bhrigu. His son is the celebrated Grtsamada) The above makes > > things > > > clear that he certainly belonged to the times of Viswamitra > proper. > > > > > > Yet, under these circumstances, it is apparently difficult to fix > > the > > > time. At most, we can say that SaryAta belongs to the lineage of > > > Saryati , the son of Manu and has married his daughter to > Cyavana, > > > which still leaves many questions unanswered and many legends > > > unexplained in terms of dating. > > > > > > > > > I invite the corrections, references and views from the learned > > > members. > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2008 Report Share Posted January 9, 2008 Dear Kedar, thank you for the information. You are right that MW has used Za for the first of the three sibilants but it has been changed to Sa now. Of course, the printed original version still may be following the old sytem itself. For such modifications, you may please refer http://www.sanskrit-lexicon.uni-koeln.de/monier/ I suggest we can discuss this further on any of the linguist groups so far as the pronounciations and notifications are concerned. You may please note that I do not advocate to much of the linguistic theories proposed by Indo European camps. regards, Kishore patnaik , " kedarnath " <jkedarnath99 wrote: > > namasthe, > > kindly look up under z in monier williams sanskrit engilsh dictionary. > > regards > > > , " Kishore patnaik " > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > All the standard Translators are well aware of the nuances of the > > Indian Varnamala- the proper word for alphabet. > > > > In fact, some of the encyclopaedias on puranas etc., though > published > > in English follow the order of Sanskrit alphabet. Thus,Viswamitra > > comes after yayAti in such dictionaries. > > > > of course, the change that i notice in today's spelling is that the > > sa as in Viswa is no more written as sha (like in Vishwa) > > > > As per my post, the mix up is deliberate. > > > > Coming to my research, I refer to several standard encyclopaediae > and > > indexes, most of them from the house of MLBD. apart from the > standard > > texts on primary information. > > > > I have noticed saryAta, SharyAta(i)and even Caryata but no Zaryata. > > > > Please check at your end. > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > , " kedarnath " <jkedarnath99@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Re: In search of Saryati > > > > > > > > > itranslator notattion > > > > > > R^ik veda maNDala 10 > > > 92 dvinavatitamaM sUktam > > > > > > (1-15) paNchadasarcasyaasya sUktasya maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH . > > > vishve deva devataaH . jagatii ChandaH > > > > > > If you cannot find a single friendly neighbourhood pandit - > purohit > > > and you need to research from English language written records of > > > Hindu history there would be problems and weird results. > > > > > > The least of this is whether or not somebody is chewing paan too > or > > > from which corner of India or globe he is from and can pronounce > > > sibiliants sa sha Sha. Not so long ago the baraha kadi system for > > > kids had concluding alphabet se sha sa ha tra Gya for correct > > > pronounciation. > > > > > > maanavaH shaaryata R^iShiH reference in Monier Williams under z > > under > > > S it could lead to mean defaecation. > > > > > > ===> [ zAryAta ]1[ zAryAt'a ] m. patr. fr. [ zaryAti ] ( also pl. > > and > > > [ 'I ] f. ) cf. RV. cf. Br. cf. Hariv. > > > ---> ( with [ mAnava ] ) N. of the author of cf. RV. x , 92 cf. > > > AitBr. cf. Anukr. > > > ---> n. N. of various Sâmans cf. ÂrshBr. > > > > > > It may be a good idea to refer above citations in the original > from > > > original MW dictionary. Depending on the world's worst > translations > > > in English of Mahabharta or Veda or Purana? > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > , " Kishore patnaik " > > > <kishorepatnaik09@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Saryati, Saryati or SaryAta (Manava) is a king in Vedic history > > > whose > > > > identification seems to be evading the scholar. In this post, I > > > will > > > > be using the name Saryati to denote any /all of the above names > > and > > > > identities. > > > > > > > > I see that he is possibly connected to the early formation > period > > > of > > > > Vedic rituals. He taught the second day rituals to Angiras (the > > > > Asuric Brahmins who learnt rituals from the Ksatriyas: NabhAga, > > > > another kshatriya taught them the sixth day rituals) and > perhaps > > > for > > > > this reason, you would not find his name in any of the > > Upanishads. > > > > > > > > Several things are mentioned about him in Vedas, Brahmanas and > > > > Puranas, which is possibly making it more difficult to fix > him. > > > > > > > > For e.g., his connection with the famous Haiheyas, as mentioned > > in > > > > MBh, was never established. Haiheyas are popularly accepted as > > > > Yadavas but Saryati was the son of Vaivasvata Manu at one place > > and > > > > (perhaps, another) Saryati was mentioned as Puru King in an > > > > encyclopedia. Even being a Puru king will not make him the > direct > > > > ancestor of Yadavas. I remember reading elsewhere he was in > the > > > > lineage Pracinvat-Saryati-Ahamyati but I am sure this > description > > > > belongs to Samyati. > > > > > > > > Saryati is also mentioned as being the ancestor of AnArta > > > > (geographically, denoting Gujarat), Rewata and Raivata. This > > > lineage > > > > dispersed thanks to Raksasas and the dispersed peoples were > > called > > > as > > > > SaryatAs. > > > > > > > > Interestingly, both the clans mentioned above are related to > > river > > > > Narmada- Mahismati, the later capital of Haiheyas was on the > > banks > > > of > > > > Narmada and Rewata shares his name with Narmada (cf Rewa) Thus, > > we > > > > can possibly assume that the dispersed peoples must have > > traversed > > > > along Narmada. > > > > > > > > Another prevalent connection of Saryati is with sage Cyavana. > > > > Saryati gives away his daughter to the aged and perhaps, > blinded > > > > Cyavana, who becomes young again with the help of Aswins. He > > > offers > > > > libation to the Aswins in return defying Indra's wishes. This > > > story > > > > with variations had been told in kausikata, padma purana, MBh, > > > > Jaiminiya Br. and Satapata Br. > > > > > > > > Cyavana himself is difficult to place since he is connected > with > > > > Sagara , the Ishwaku King on one hand and King Kusika (the > grand > > > > father of Viswamitra) on the other. These two kings have good > > > amount > > > > of time lag between them, unless Kusika is only an ancestor of > > > > Viswamitra and not grandfather. To complicate the issue, > > Cyavana > > > > also figures during the times of Kartavirya Arjuna also –he > > curses > > > > him. However, we have to agree that it is not uncommon for > sages > > > to > > > > appear across times, because they were recognized more by their > > > > Gotras than by their first names. > > > > > > > > Rg veda mentions that Madhu chandhas is the purohit of > Saryati. > > > > Perhaps for this reason, since Viswamitras are Bhrigus, Saryati > > > > adopts the gotra of Brhigus. (there is another story of vita > > > harya, > > > > a Haiheya king being converted into Brahminism, into the Gotra > > of > > > > Bhrigu. His son is the celebrated Grtsamada) The above makes > > > things > > > > clear that he certainly belonged to the times of Viswamitra > > proper. > > > > > > > > Yet, under these circumstances, it is apparently difficult to > fix > > > the > > > > time. At most, we can say that SaryAta belongs to the lineage > of > > > > Saryati , the son of Manu and has married his daughter to > > Cyavana, > > > > which still leaves many questions unanswered and many legends > > > > unexplained in terms of dating. > > > > > > > > > > > > I invite the corrections, references and views from the > learned > > > > members. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kishore patnaik > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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