Guest guest Posted November 10, 2009 Report Share Posted November 10, 2009 INDOLOGY , Smarth Bali <smarth_bali wrote: > > I am confused: some friends from Maharashtra and Gujarat insist that the word 'Kriti' should be pronounced as 'Kruti'; much the same way as 'Rishi' is pronounced (by them) as 'Rushi'...what do the experts have to say to this? Pray, enlighten... > > Many thanks. > > Smarth > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Robb, Many thanks for your response to my post...yet, I don't understand - so, KRITI/SMRITI/RISHI willl, according to you pronounced as??? KRati? SMRaTI? Enlighten please! Much sunshine and laughter in your life! Smarth --- On Tue, 11/10/09, robb7thurston <robb7thurston wrote: robb7thurston <robb7thurston [Y-Indology] Re: Kriti or Kruti or Kr.ti INDOLOGY Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 10:35 AM INDOLOGY , Smarth Bali <smarth_bali wrote: > > I am confused: some friends from Maharashtra and Gujarat insist that the word 'Kriti' should be pronounced as 'Kruti'; much the same way as 'Rishi' is pronounced (by them) as 'Rushi'...what do the experts have to say to this? Pray, enlighten... > > Many thanks. > > Smarth > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2009 Report Share Posted November 13, 2009 There is no way you can write Sanskrit words in Roman alphabet.Correct way to write would be rshi, krti, with a dot under r.If we decide to use ordinary alphabet,we must know the prunciation independently.It is not proper to write a Sanskrit word in Roman alphabet according to your wish and then pronounce it the way it is written. Rajesh Kochhar ----------------------- [Prof.] Rajesh Kochhar http://rajeshkochhar.com CSIR Emeritus Scientist Indian Institute of Science Education and Research Mohali Sector 26, Chandigarh 160019 Vice-President IAU Commission 41: History of Astronomy (Former Director NISTADS, New Delhi) +91-172-2700380 / +91-9417720552 --- On Fri, 13/11/09, Smarth Bali <smarth_bali wrote: Smarth Bali <smarth_bali Re: [Y-Indology] Re: Kriti or Kruti or Kr.ti INDOLOGY Friday, 13 November, 2009, 2:00 AM  Robb, Many thanks for your response to my post...yet, I don't understand - so, KRITI/SMRITI/ RISHI willl, according to you pronounced as??? KRati? SMRaTI? Enlighten please! Much sunshine and laughter in your life! Smarth --- On Tue, 11/10/09, robb7thurston <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> wrote: robb7thurston <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> [Y-Indology] Re: Kriti or Kruti or Kr.ti INDOLOGY@ s.com Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 10:35 AM INDOLOGY@ s.com, Smarth Bali <smarth_bali@ ...> wrote: > > I am confused: some friends from Maharashtra and Gujarat insist that the word 'Kriti' should be pronounced as 'Kruti'; much the same way as 'Rishi' is pronounced (by them) as 'Rushi'...what do the experts have to say to this? Pray, enlighten... > > Many thanks. > > Smarth > > > >     > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Friends, There is not a place in India which is immune to what we call " mother tongue pull " when it comes to the pronunciation of Sanskrit, as also in the case of English.So be wary of the claims of " authentic " pronunciation.If  you want to approximate your pronunciation to the archetype, perhaps one should go to the basics, understanding what Indian Pratisakhyas and Siksas have to say about places and modes of articulation.In the case of r sound ,which we transliterate with a dot at the bottom, Indian grammarians treat it as a cerebral /retroflex vowel which is neither ri or ra or ru .According to Monier Williams, it corresponds to the native English proinunciation of the second r in the English word " merrily " .Or when you are in Rome, do as the Roma do and pronounce as the people of the respective province do to make yourself understood! C R Dr.C.Rajendran www.crajendran.com Professor of Sanskrit University of Calicut Calicut University P.O Kerala 673 635 Phone: 0494-2401144 Residential address:28/1097,Rajadhani Kumaran Nair Road, Chevayur, Calicut Kerala 673 017 Phone: 0495-2354 624 --- On Fri, 11/13/09, Smarth Bali <smarth_bali wrote: Smarth Bali <smarth_bali Re: [Y-Indology] Re: Kriti or Kruti or Kr.ti INDOLOGY Friday, November 13, 2009, 2:00 AM  Robb, Many thanks for your response to my post...yet, I don't understand - so, KRITI/SMRITI/ RISHI willl, according to you pronounced as??? KRati? SMRaTI? Enlighten please! Much sunshine and laughter in your life! Smarth --- On Tue, 11/10/09, robb7thurston <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> wrote: robb7thurston <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> [Y-Indology] Re: Kriti or Kruti or Kr.ti INDOLOGY@ s.com Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 10:35 AM INDOLOGY@ s.com, Smarth Bali <smarth_bali@ ...> wrote: > > I am confused: some friends from Maharashtra and Gujarat insist that the word 'Kriti' should be pronounced as 'Kruti'; much the same way as 'Rishi' is pronounced (by them) as 'Rushi'...what do the experts have to say to this? Pray, enlighten... > > Many thanks. > > Smarth > > > >     > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2009 Report Share Posted November 20, 2009 1. <There is no way you can write Sanskrit words in Roman alphabet.> True, and there is no way one can write all English or French or Dutch or Russian words with Sanskrit alphabet. Even the Roman alphabet may carry different pronunciations in different European languages. For example, <Inde> is pronounce differently in English, French, and Spanish. However, it is possible to arrive at some conventions by which the Roman letters can be modified (with a dot on top or at the bottom or a bar on top) to represent exact Sanskrit sounds. I believe that has been going on for quite a long time now, though the conventions themselves have been periodically revised. 2. <Correct way to write would be rshi, krti, with a dot under r.> As per one currently widely accepted convention. There is no such thing as <correct> or <incorrect> in an absolute sense, only appropriate concordance with the conventions. V. V. Raman November 19, 2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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