Shiva Linga - What is it?

September 29, 2009

Beloved All,

Below is a wonderful explanation of one ShreeÂ Hariharan Shivadas on what a Shiva Linga is. A long one but a wonderful read.Â The link below is the actual thread where I got it from:Â

http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat= & Board=godsgoddesses & Number=68282 & page=0 & view=collapsed & sb=5 & o= & fpart=all

Everybody who worships Siva, the great god of Hindus, or those who have seen Siva-worship, known what Siva-lingam is Shiva lingam, also called as Pindi, is composed of two parts. A central oval mass standing like a pillar is ï¿½Banaï¿½ and around this Bana, there is an oval or oblong ï¿½Salunkaï¿½ or ï¿½Vediï¿½. By looking at this Lingam no sensible person can imagine a sexual union. But unfortunately the Western scholars wrongly associated this lingam with the phallus, a male sexual organ, and saw obscenity in this worship. They say that Bana is the penis and Salunka is the vagina a female sex organ; and thus copulation is represented in the Siva-lingam. By any stretch of imagination, I cannot see the two organs in the lingam. The Bana appears to have come out / upwards through the Salunka; it is not penetrating down into salunka to think of sexual symbolism.

Some Scholars say that the conception of phallism occurred to the primitive people and they started this Siva-worship. It is an established fact that the Philosophy of Upanisadas have made the thinkers of the modern world almost blind by its dazzling light of knowledge. The people who attained such a high quality of wisdom and philosophy cannot be condemned as primitive. Those philosophers were worshipping Siva lingam. Can that be sexual symbolism? Can a man who has got his own sex organ, ever go to a temple to see the same thing there? Impossible.

Those who say of Siva lingam as sexual symbol are themselves primitive, because they cannot see anything else but sexuality. If we stretch our imagination to that extent, we can also say that Cross of Christians is also a symbol of sexual union. The horizontal small bar representing vagina of the female and the vertical bar piercing through that the penis. If Siva lingam is a symbol of sexual union, the cross is also equally the same symbol; the only difference between the two is of art. Siva-lingam is quite artistic while there is no art in the cross. Being primitive they are represented only by lines.

Why do this sense of phallism arise? It is because those people took wrong meaning of the word ï¿½Lingamï¿½. Lingam is, now, taken as a word suggesting sex, but its original meaning is ï¿½signï¿½ or ï¿½symbolï¿½. For example, Sir Winston Churchill was recognized by his cheroot while Sir N. Chamberlain by his umbrella. Cheroot & Umbrella were the signs or symbols of Churchill and Chamberlain respectively. In Sanskrit we would say Cheroot is the lingam of Churchill while umbrella is the lingam of Chamberlain. Similarly lingam of Gandhiji is Charkha. Formerly it was said the lingam of Indra was Vajra, lingam of Brahmadeva was lotus. Thus ï¿½linga means a sign or symbol by which a particular person is recognized. This is the basic meaning the word lingam and this basic sense Kathopanisd 2/3/8 says that " The Purusa which is superior to unmanifested Brahma has no " lingam " . Later on, with the same basic meaning the word lingam was applied to the organ by which male and female are distinguished; and that meaning later became more popular.

Now, with these clear basic ideas let us think of Siva lingam. Before considering the ï¿½lingamï¿½, let us see what is Siva Himself . For this consideration I will refer to Vyasa, author of Mahabharata and one of the oldest and greatest of the intellectuals and historians. Vyasa was also a great sage, a seer, who had achieved superhuman powers, the Siddhis. He has written so many books of such a high quality that there is no comparison for him in the whole world. Let us see what Vyasa says about Siva.

In Maharashtra, Drona parva Adhyaya 201, Vyasa writes thus :-Narayana performed strenuous Tapa when the highest God of the world, the origin of the Universe and the parent of the worlds, visualized himself before Narayana. That God is Known as Sambhu, Hara or Rudra. He is smaller that Paramanu (subatomic particle like Proton, Neutron, Electron) and greater than any thing greatest. He is the cause of vitality in all the living things. Every thing or non-living originates from him. He can never be seen by ordinary people. He has engulfed the whole world. He is the limit of the Time. He has no birth, no death. He is invisible, unmanifest. He is the soul of the soul. He has no passion at all.

In this context Vyasa has mentioned clearly that that the one who worships the lingam form of Siva becomes perfect in Atmayoga as well as Sastra yoga. Atmayoga means the indirect knowledge of unity of Jeeva and Brahma, and not the union of opposite sexes.

Vyasa specifically says that for the direct knowledge of the unity of Jeeva Brahma, linga is essential. This statement is very important in the modern era of Science today. With this specification of Vyasa in our mind. Let us see what he says further.

Mahabharata Drona. A.202 states- " all the gods including Brahma, Visnu and Rudra have originated from him. He is Citswarupa and is present in all the bodies and controls all the bodies and controls all the bodies. The whole universe is His Body. He is the master of all and hence is called as the Great God Mahadeva. He is also known as Sthanu. He is the Soul of the Universe. He is the creator of the Universe and is the Universe Himself. He is the self-made (Swayambhu). He is full of the knowledge and can be understood only by the knowledge. He is the source of the light. Everything in the world is his form. " He has got (Anusasana 17,)four heads, five heads, and thousands of heads. He has three eyes. He is known as Hiranyagarbha, Suksmatma and Sutratma. All these three names are very important. He is the first of all and has no end. The seed originates from him. He enjoys sixty elements of the world, and these elements are his own parts. Sasthibhaga). He is Prajabeeja, Mahattatva and later coming Ahankara. He is called; Vansakar because he produces generations.

All these descriptions and names are very important and should be borne in mind because the whole symbolism is to be explained on his basis. Before we go to that explanation, let us see what other knowledge the Ancient Indian had. That is also every important to understand the real meaning of lingam.

In Mahabharata Santi parva A. 302 there is included a dialogue between Vasistha and Janaka. Here, Vasistha tells that twelve thousand Divine year make one Yuga. Four such Yugas make one Kalpa. That comes to 48 millions of Divine years. This is only one day of Brahmadeva together makes 96 millions of Divine years. Please note that these are divine years; and one divine day is equal to one human year. Hence we have to multiply 96 millions by 360. It comes to 34560 million human years. Vasistha syas that after the interval of 34560 million human years Isana, Jyotirupa, Avyaya, Sambhu starts his work.

First of all this Sambhu creates Hiranyagarbha, also known as Visvarupi or Mahan or Bhootagraja which means the first thing in the world. Vedantis call his Hiranyagarbha as Sutratma. Yogasastra calls it ï¿½Mahanï¿½ or ï¿½AJAï¿½. The Sankhyasastra calls it Vicitrarupa, Visvatma and Ekasara. Hiranyagarbha prepared all the things forming this world and occupied those himself. Thus he himself turned into many forms and hence got the name Visvarupa and Bahurupa. He generates himself in innumerable forms and becomes visible. This change from invisible to visible or unmanifest to manifest is named as Vidyasarga. (Please note that the real sense of the words Vyakta and Avyakta cannot be translated into English appropriately.)

Hiranyagarbha gives rise to Ahnkar and Virat Prajapati. This process is called as Avidyasarga. From Ahankar all the microscopic things evolved.( Suksma-Bhuth-Sristi). Then arose five Mahabhutas-Akas, Vayu, Teja, Apah, Prthvi and its subjects namely Sabda, Sparssa, Rupa, Rasa, Gandha. After this the last of fifth generation evolved with five sense organs and the mind.

Here the origin of the Universe is considered. You may remember the theory published by Sir Bernard Lowell, a research scientist of England, after catching up the micro-wave signals from the explosion. It is very astonishing to note the similarity between the two theories. According to Sir Lovell, the matter that became the universe later, was concentrated in a single primeval fireball. This fireball exploded 10,000 million years ago, into pieces that became the stars and Galaxies. Sage Vasistha uses the word ï¿½Jyotirupaï¿½ while Lovell uses the word Fireball. Is there any difference/ Vasistha says " From that Jyotirupa everything which composes the universe, developed 34560 million year ago " . Lovell sayas, " The universe developed from the fireball 10,000 million years ago " . Is there any difference to us between 34560 million and 10,000 million years? Vasistha appears to be more precise while Lovell is approximate. Later on Lovell may accept Vasisthaï¿½s figure. You may have, now, been convinced how accurately our sages have described the creation of the Universe. True to the latest science. Can you, now, think of sexual union in Siva lingam which was worshipped by Vasistha?

Let us now consider the living world. First of all, Amurt a Sambhu i.e. shapeless Siva was present. Siva Sambhu is not having any figure or form like that of a man or animal to possess any sex organ. He is Jyotirupa, that means He is energy. He has no end, no destruction. Energy has no destruction. He gave rise to Hiranyagarbha, which is the first living creature of structure and is named Bhutagraja. Visvavupa that means he is present in all the living things. (and non-living things also). He is Suksma that means smallest, microscopic, and Sthanu that means an atom which is always present. If we consider such a smallest particle, which is the first and foremost of all the living structures, on the base of modern science, we immediately think of D.N. A. molecule ï¿½ Deoxy-Ribo Nucleic acid.

Now, let us consider the points of similarity between D.N.A. and Siva. It is well known that Siva is Ugra and his name also is Ugra, Ugra means an acid. D.N.A. is also and acid. Vedantï¿½ called that Hiranyagarbha as Sutratma, which means Atma in form of Sutra or thread or filament. The modern science admits that DNA molecule is really like a thread of filament. " In a single human germ-cell this filament of DNA is about one meter in length " , says Watson in his book ï¿½The Double Helixï¿½. The Yoga-science calls Mahan, the great. It is really great because it is present in all the living things. Its molecular weight is 10 lakhs , so the scientists call it ï¿½greatï¿½. It is no birth, it develops from itself. DNA duplicates, that means develops from itself. Mr. J. D. Watson describes this as ï¿½Self replicationï¿½.

Sankhya calls it Vicitrarupa, fantastically shaped. DNA also is fantastically shaped like a spiral stair-case or Helix. Sankhya calls it Visvatma meaning the Soul of the Universe. Modern science admits that DNA is the soul or the essential thing of the living world. It is named as Ekaksara, the immortal, the one who has no denudation, no loss, no end. DNA has no end, no loss; - it duplicates or replicates itself, giving rise to itself. Thus all these seven points tally.

It is said that Ahankar is developed from Hiranyagarbha. Ahankara literally means a shape which can call itself as ï¿½Iï¿½(Aham). A Gene, Chromosome and Nucleus are developed from DNA, all of which can call themselves as ï¿½Iï¿½ or Selfï¿½. From which nucleus, a cell is formed; so the nuclear material is named as Prajabeeja. From this first cell so many cells develop by multiplication. These myriad of cells are Praja and the one from which all these originate is Prajapati. All these cells are microscopic, that is why they are named as Suksma-Bhuta-Srsti. (The microscopic or unicellular living world) Here , we can include virus, bacteria and all single-celled organisms. A cell itself appears as a ï¿½Pindiï¿½. The cell is Salunka while the nucleus the Bana.

It is said that after the microscopic world, all the visible world (Sthula Srsti) came into being. This world contains five sense organs, and the mind. This is true to modern science, which accepts that in the remote past, only single-celled organisms were present. Eventually, a number of cells grouped together to form a society with division of labour-thus developing many systems and sense organs of a single multicellular living organism. In this way a world of multicellular living beings came into existence.

I would like to assert that all these theories are written 7500 years ago in Mahabharata by the Indian Sages Some theories, e.g. Those of Vasistha are still more ancient dating as back as 10,000 years ago. You will all agree, now, that these are not mere stories but are scientific truths, which corroborate with the modern science. Those ancient sages had recognized the ultimate truth of the life- The DNA molecule. They defined it as Siva and started worship.

For this worship of Siva for ordinary layman, and for the sake of further studies for the pupils, the Rishis had to bring forth a symbol. The sages prepared a model according to their vision. This model is the Sivalingam.Â

There is no form, no human or animal or any other figure in Siva as we have seen so far. Then how can it represent sex organs?Â Let us now proceed to see the details of Siva-lingam. There is a central pillar, the Bana, surrounding which there is Salunka. Spiraling around the Bana there is a cobra snake. There is Tripunda Gandha, a special mark on forehead. This special mark is really a special. It appears to be a picture of a snake spiraling around in axis. It looks like a spring. This shape resembling a spring is very important. We know that the DNA molecule is a Helix. The modern scientists compare it with a spiral stair-case, while the ancient sages have compared it with a spiral of cobra. The cobra takes support of Bana. DNA takes support of nucleus. The ancient comparison is more of reduplication. The reduplication of DNA mimics the copulation of the snakes. The snake is a living thing like DNA but the staircase is not living. The modern scientists ( Watson and Crick ) have prepared a model in 1953 of a spiral staircase to depict the same DNA molecule; while the ancient sages have prepared a model to depict the same DNA and that model is the Siva-Lingam. To have the sense of life in that model, they thought of the spirals of a cobra and to make it reach a common man, they put forth an idea of Tripunda Gandha, a sacred mark drawn on the forehead with our three fingers dipped in the Sandal-wood-paste. Quite an ingenious representation, is not it?

We can see further simile. The Nucleic Acids are formed of four parts known as Mono-nucleotides. The four heads of Lord Siva are the same four parts. Siva is described to have three eyes. Each Mono-nucleotides. The four heads of Siva face towards the four directions. If we see comparatively simple Ribonucleic Acid, RNA, we can notice that its four Mononucleotides are at four sides. These nucleotides are Adenine, Guanine, Uracil (Thiamin)

and Cytosine.Â More wonder lies ahead. At some places Maharashtra describes that Siva has four heads, at other places it is said that Siva has five heads, still other places mention that he has thousands of heads. I think as the research progressed the number of heads went on increasing. The modern science has passed through Guanine, Cytosine and Uracil. Then some researcher found out that instead of Uracil, Thiamin is present in some DNA molecules. So the concept of Tetra-Mono-Nucleotide (Chaturmukha) dissolved and that of Pentas- Mono-nucleotide (Panchmukha) came up. As the research progressed further, the scientists found out two thousand Mononucleotides establishing the concept of Sahasra-Shirsha- Thousands of heads. Now-a- days only four Mononucleotides namely Adenine, Guanine, Uracil (Thiamin) and Cytosine and suppose to be bases of DNA; but recently it is shown that 5-Methyl cytosine is present in some molecules. A single human germcall DNA contains 109 (ten raised to nine) base pairs. So the sages appear to be correct. We should not wonder about comparisons made with the human parts like head, eyes etc by the ancient sages; because Nobel Laureate Watson also has compared the sugarphosphate linkage with the back-bone, in his bookï¿½ The Double Helix ï¿½Such a comparison is not unscientific because it is essential for a common man to understand the subject.

Siva is said to have five wads of hair on his head. (Shendi or Choti) A wad of hair was supposed to be the most important part of our body, in those ancient days. These five wads represent the five important basic parts, the five elements oxygen, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Carbon, Phosphorus. There is no sixth Hydrogen element in DNA molecule.

Siva is known us Vansakar, the one who produces generations. Children-grandchildren-grand- grand children and so on. When we speak of generations, we take into account the hereditary characters. It is an established fact that the hereditary characters are transmitted by genes of the chromosomes i.e. the nucleic Acid, the hereditary properties comprised within the chromosomes, the chromatin of which consists of long molecules of nucleoprotein, DNA arranged in a definite molecular pattern, which is reproduced with almost unerring accuracy, when new cells are formed. So from the modern point of view DNA is Vansakar. The same thing is told by our ancient sages.

" The smallest molecule of life is Siva " say our ages, but we call it DNA. The symbol of DNA is Helical. While the symbol of Siva is Lingam. After considering all the similarities, we have to conclude that the sages must have studied all this science and must have seen the molecule of life, DNA, by their third eye of wisdom. It is said in Linga Purana that " only the intellectuals can see the minutest form of Siva with the eye of wisdom, ordinary people cannot do so. Hence for the benefit of the laymen the sages evolved the model of Siva as a Lingam. " Watson and crick and very few others have seen the DNA molecule with the eye of wisdom. All other scientists have to be satisfied with the spiral staircase. If we go on putting the Lingas one above the other, with some rotation of Salunka, it will mimic the model of DNA prepared by modern science. Thus the similarity is perfect as far as the life molecule is concerned; but this is not all.

We have considered the life so far; but Siva is not the Master of life alone; Siva is the master of the Lifeless things also. He is Swami of Chara and Achara. Let us now consider the things the things without life (Achara). So far we considered Biochemistry, now we well deal with Physics.

Bhagwat Skandh 3, Adhyaya 11, Slockas1 and 2, quote the teaching of sage Maitreya. Maitreya says " If we go/ dividing matter, a stage will come when it can not be divided further. This smallest particle which cannot be divided is Paramanu. The Paramanu is separate from others and it is not in union with any other. Aggregation of such Paramanus makes matter visible as an apparition. "

This definition is not of an atom, as it appears apparently, but it defines Paramanu which means a sub-atomic particle like Proton. Now it is proved that atom is divisible. The word Atom is derived from Anu. Anu is divisible but Paramanu is not divisible. Here the word Paramanu is divisible into Proton, Neutron and Electron. These particles are Paramanus according to the definition of Bhagwat.

Bhagwat has mentioned at 3-11-5 that two Paramanus together form an Anu, and three Paramanus together form a Trsarenu. This definitely shows that Maitreya knew of Proton, Neutron, Electron and an Atom. He named Proton, Neutron and Electron as Paramanus. He knew that Proton and Electron, two Paramanus together formed an Atom which he named as ï¿½Anuï¿½. He also knew that three Paramanus i.e. Proton, Neutron, Electron together formed an atom which he named as ï¿½ Trasrenu ï¿½.

John Dalton was the first person to put up the theory of Atom in 1808 AD Bhagwat is written around 1600 years BC. There may arise a debate on the date of Bhagwat, but is certain that Bhagwat is not written after 1808 AD, after John Dalton. Nobody can say, at least today, that Bhagwat is written after the discovery of atom by Dalton in 1808 AD. I will not wonder if some brain puts forth such a theory in future, at least when we see todayï¿½s research about ancient literature particularly Mahabharata. I do not worry about the future. Today I assert that the theory of atom was established around 4600 years BC. in India at least three thousand years before John Dalton.Â

John Dalton and his contemporaries were wrong in stating indivisibility of atom . In his time in 1808 AD though all the scientists accepted that an atom was not divisible, Bhagwat was saying that Anu was divisible in two parts and those parts were named as Paramanus.

Later on Bequeral proved in 1895 AD that an Atom can be divided. Still later, Rutherford proved that there were smaller particles of atom. Thomas studied the cathode rays and discovered Electron which is negatively charged. Rutherford discovered positively charged Proton in 1911 AD. James Chandwick discovered the third particle Neutron in 1932 AD. All these discoveries proved how accurately Maitreya had quoted his discovery more than three thousand years ago.

Still more wonder are written in Bhagwat. Maitreya says. " There are so many materials on this earth, they have specific properties and seen in Paramanu the ultimate basic state now proved by science. There is a group or collection of Paramanu and they are named as Parama-Mahana. "

Here it is clearly stated that there are a number of particles which, later on, get converted into Paramanus i.e. proton, Neutron, Electron. These particles are named as Paramanus i.e. proton, Neutron, Electron. These particles are named as Parama ï¿½ Mahana. The Parama ï¿½ Mahana gives birth to occupies the whole of the Universe.

In a lecture on Siva-lingam in July 1975, I had described this Parama-Mahana a group of sub-atomic particles. Later on Dr. Pyarelal Jain discovered the charmed Particles and published an article on 26th August 1975, one month later than my discovery. His work proved and re-enforced my discovery about Bhagwat. I congratulate Dr. Jain for his discovery.

Now, we shall consider Siva-lingam again. There is a central Bana, which represents three Gods Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Parvati is represented by Salunka which is oval or oblong in shape with three ridges encarved at its periphery. Parvati is Maya and Sakti. She is a sort of energy field and plays very important role in the universe. She is wife of Siva and half of Siva. (Ardhangi). She dances around Siva all the time.

If we see the figure of an atom we find two parts-central nucleus and around it an oval electron field-Bana and Salunka-Out of the great Trinity two are more important namely Hari and Hara. Hari is Purush, a man i.e. positive proton. Hara is indifferent, without any attraction (Virakta), so Hara means a Neutron having no charge at all. The wife of Hara is Sakti who plays with the Universe including Brahma and Vishnu. She is the mother of all. She is female i.e. negative. So the negative Electron field is Salunka representing Shakti.

All of us know that a lotus came out of the navel of Vishnu and on that lotus Brahma is seated. The lotus depicts a delicate bond which keeps Brahma bound to Vishnu. The stem of lotus being flexible, Brahma moves around Vishnu in his lotus. This story shows that Electron means Brahma moving around Proton or Vishnu. Brahma is circling and playing in the Electron field- Field is energy or Maya, the Salunka. Maya is the force of attraction of nucleus or Proton on the electron, so it is depicted by the delicate lotus, joining two Virat Purushas Brahma and Vishnu (Proton & Electron).

There are always three ridges encarved on Salunka. These three ridges are the three orbital of electron field. In Sanskrit, three means many. So the three ridges represent many orbital of electron field.Siva himself does not do anything. He has given Vishnu the full authority to maintain the universe. Brahma is to produce every thing. Brahma and Vishnu work with the energy of Siva, the Sakti. Another name of Sakti is Renuka. The name is very descriptive, Renuka is one who produces Renu or molecule. Two atoms (axa) make one molecule (Renu). The energy which forms the molecules is known as Renuka; modern scientists call it ï¿½Valencyï¿½ The actual producer of molecules is Electron or Brahma. Modern physics shows that electrons are shared between the atoms to form a molecule; and because of the formation of the molecules his world came into existence. So ancient Indian concept hat Brahma produced the world appears to be true. Brahma means electron.

Motherly or reproductive energy forming molecules is Renuka. This one is a form of Parvati, But there is another form of Parvati, known as ï¿½Rudraniï¿½-very destructive, terrible and catastrophic in nature. Rudrani is always around Rudra. Rudra is Neutron who is situated in Bana or nucleus. If somebody tries to smash or crush this Bana (nucleus) the Nuclear fission as it known these days-this Rudrani. Portable, the first scientist sage, knowing this destructive energy, did the first atomic explosion in an underground cell near a river and outside the town. That is why, the tradition-loving Hindus still erect temples of Siva near a river, outside town, away form population, and the Lingam is always placed underground. Sometimes Siva-temple is on the mountains but in any case Lingam is always underground. Thus lingam is a model of an atom.Â

In Yoga-Vasistha Valmiki tells Rama, " I saw dancing in the space. That time it appeared that the space itself is personified. He looked like a great pillar or blue flames. A shadow developed from Him and started dancing in front if Him. She appeared as if the darkness itself had been personified, I ran with the speed of mind for thousands of years but I could hardly see her head or feet, so tall was she. She is named as ï¿½Kallï¿½ or ï¿½Bhairaviï¿½.

Rudra, the great flame and Kali, the darkness suggest positivity and negativity. The same concept is confirmed by the discovery of Dr. Pyarelal Jain about the Charmed Particles which are named as Quark and Antiquark. Siva and Sakti. Rudra and Kali. These two produce positive Proton and negative Electron. Kali is dancing Siva. Negative Electron is also dancing around positive proton. So the simile is perfect. The dance of Kali suggests three types of movements namely rotation, revolution and vibration. While dancing Kali vibrates her feet, rotates around herself / and while in these two actions she rotates around Shiva. All these three motions are present in the Electron.Â

Male and female, flame and shadow, definitely suggest positive and negative. Any energy has got these two poles positive and negative. Understanding fully this fact our ancestors prepared the lingam, because they had the knowledge of Magnetism, and they knew that the north pole of the earth is negative, they placed the negatively or Salunka pointing towards the North. This is the tradition even today, though the science behind is lost.

Shiva lingam is bathed continuously, but the water falling down from the lingam is never touched. People never drink that water as a Teerth though it is a custom in case of other Gods like Vishnu etc. This about the water of Siva has a root in the experience of the remote past when experiments were done on this atom model. The sages knew that the water does not remain ordinary potable water, it becomes heavy water due to Radiation from Lingam. So they ordered the pupils not to touch or drink that water and not to cross it while flowing away. This tradition came upto us without the scientific knowledge behind.

Siva lingam is always placed near a river, because the sages were doing experiments on the atoms and they know that if some accident takes place, there will be radiation Fall-out, and to save from that radiation hazards the only way was to jump into the rivers and remains immersed in the water.

All these traditions point to the presence of the knowledge of the atom and atomic energy.we saw uptill now, that the smallest living thing is also Siva-lingam, and the smallest nonliving thing is also Siva-lingam. Let us now see the biggest, because Siva is said to be the smallest as well as the biggest because Siva is said to be the smallest as well as the biggest. Some great mountains are shaped like lingam e.g. Sivaneri. The biggest mountain of the world, Himalayas looks like Siva-lingam. Why talk of only mountains? The biggest Planetary Nebula and Extra-Galactic Nebula look like Sivalingam. Siva is described as the biggest of the big and Jyotirmaya; if you look at the picture of a Nebula, you will realize how correct is the description. If We consider the whole Universe, it is also like Siva-lingam. Einstein has rightly said that a straight line is not straight, if extended to infinity, it forms an oblong. The universe is an oblong, Salunka is also an oblong. Galaxy mass is 2500 light years in heights. Our sages recognized all these facts and depicted in Siva-lingam, this tradition is still followed strictly by Hindus though the reason behind is forgotten.

Now you must have realized that our sages had studied thoroughly the minute and the enormous, living and nonliving, stars and universe, and found out the ultimate energy is only one but has many manifestations. Studying completely that supreme energy the sages prepared a model for the students to study it and for the ordinary people to worship it. The symbol of that energy is Siva-lingam and the energy is Siva himself.

Our ancestors had done a great work but as the time passed, the real meaning was lost, leaving behind the traditions and literature which we can study. It is our duty to study the whole of the ancient literature which we can study. It is our duty to study the whole of the ancient literature and traditions to revitalize the knowledge. I am sure by this way we can make advance in the scientific progress and India can once again, show the light of knowledge to the world.Â

--------------------Hariharan ShivadasÂ satyam nasti paro dharma!Â Â Regards,Ramesh

September 30, 2009

Dear shri Ramesh Krishnamoorthyji,

our religion can be explained in many ways, there is no doubt about that.Shri

Hariharan Shivadas's efforts are also laudable.Although he is often near the

truth, he is not exact in his explantion.

Thus you may be interested to know what exactly is a shiva lingam.

The exact representation fo the Shiva lingam is known as earth moon bary center.

This is the center of the lunar orbit and shiva lingam represents the monthly

earth wobble.This is the astrological explanation and this is the exact meaning

or symobol of the Shiva lingam. If you are interested it can be explained

further.It is on the basis of the Shiva lingam that our festivals have to be

shifted one month backwards.I wish people took interest in where our religion

has gone wrong. Where our scriptures have been belittled in practise and gone

out of sequence with our glorified religion.

Regards,

Hari Malla

-- In , Ramesh Krishnamoorthy

<ramdaus wrote:

>

> Beloved All, Below is a wonderful explanation of one Shree Hariharan

> Shivadas on what a Shiva Linga is. A long one but a wonderful read.

>

> The link below is the actual thread where I got it from:

>

http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat= & Board=godsgoddesses & Number=68282\

& page=0 & view=collapsed & sb=5 & o= & fpart=all

>

> Everybody who worships Siva, the great god of Hindus, or those who have seen

> Siva-worship, known what Siva-lingam is Shiva lingam, also called as Pindi,

> is composed of two parts. A central oval mass standing like a pillar is

> ï¿½Banaï¿½ and around this Bana, there is an oval or oblong ï¿½Salunkaï¿½ or

ï¿½Vediï¿½.

> By looking at this Lingam no sensible person can imagine a sexual union. But

> unfortunately the Western scholars wrongly associated this lingam with the

> phallus, a male sexual organ, and saw obscenity in this worship. They say

> that Bana is the penis and Salunka is the vagina a female sex organ; and

> thus copulation is represented in the Siva-lingam. By any stretch of

> imagination, I cannot see the two organs in the lingam. The Bana appears to

> have come out / upwards through the Salunka; it is not penetrating down into

> salunka to think of sexual symbolism.

> Some Scholars say that the conception of phallism occurred to the primitive

> people and they started this Siva-worship. It is an established fact that

> the Philosophy of Upanisadas have made the thinkers of the modern world

> almost blind by its dazzling light of knowledge. The people who attained

> such a high quality of wisdom and philosophy cannot be condemned as

> primitive. Those philosophers were worshipping Siva lingam. Can that be

> sexual symbolism? Can a man who has got his own sex organ, ever go to a

> temple to see the same thing there? Impossible.

> Those who say of Siva lingam as sexual symbol are themselves primitive,

> because they cannot see anything else but sexuality. If we stretch our

> imagination to that extent, we can also say that Cross of Christians is also

> a symbol of sexual union. The horizontal small bar representing vagina of

> the female and the vertical bar piercing through that the penis. If Siva

> lingam is a symbol of sexual union, the cross is also equally the same

> symbol; the only difference between the two is of art. Siva-lingam is quite

> artistic while there is no art in the cross. Being primitive they are

> represented only by lines.

> Why do this sense of phallism arise? It is because those people took wrong

> meaning of the word ï¿½Lingamï¿½. Lingam is, now, taken as a word suggesting

> sex, but its original meaning is ï¿½signï¿½ or ï¿½symbolï¿½. For example, Sir

> Winston Churchill was recognized by his cheroot while Sir N. Chamberlain by

> his umbrella. Cheroot & Umbrella were the signs or symbols of Churchill and

> Chamberlain respectively. In Sanskrit we would say Cheroot is the lingam of

> Churchill while umbrella is the lingam of Chamberlain. Similarly lingam of

> Gandhiji is Charkha. Formerly it was said the lingam of Indra was Vajra,

> lingam of Brahmadeva was lotus. Thus ï¿½linga means a sign or symbol by which

> a particular person is recognized. This is the basic meaning the word lingam

> and this basic sense Kathopanisd 2/3/8 says that " The Purusa which is

> superior to unmanifested Brahma has no " lingam " . Later on, with the same

> basic meaning the word lingam was applied to the organ by which male and

> female are distinguished; and that meaning later became more popular.

> Now, with these clear basic ideas let us think of Siva lingam. Before

> considering the ï¿½lingamï¿½, let us see what is Siva Himself . For this

> consideration I will refer to Vyasa, author of Mahabharata and one of the

> oldest and greatest of the intellectuals and historians. Vyasa was also a

> great sage, a seer, who had achieved superhuman powers, the Siddhis. He has

> written so many books of such a high quality that there is no comparison for

> him in the whole world. Let us see what Vyasa says about Siva.

> In Maharashtra, Drona parva Adhyaya 201, Vyasa writes thus :-

> Narayana performed strenuous Tapa when the highest God of the world, the

> origin of the Universe and the parent of the worlds, visualized himself

> before Narayana. That God is Known as Sambhu, Hara or Rudra. He is smaller

> that Paramanu (subatomic particle like Proton, Neutron, Electron) and

> greater than any thing greatest. He is the cause of vitality in all the

> living things. Every thing or non-living originates from him. He can never

> be seen by ordinary people. He has engulfed the whole world. He is the limit

> of the Time. He has no birth, no death. He is invisible, unmanifest. He is

> the soul of the soul. He has no passion at all.

> In this context Vyasa has mentioned clearly that that the one who worships

> the lingam form of Siva becomes perfect in Atmayoga as well as Sastra yoga.

> Atmayoga means the indirect knowledge of unity of Jeeva and Brahma, and not

> the union of opposite sexes.

> Vyasa specifically says that for the direct knowledge of the unity of Jeeva

> Brahma, linga is essential. This statement is very important in the modern

> era of Science today. With this specification of Vyasa in our mind. Let us

> see what he says further.

> Mahabharata Drona. A.202 states- " all the gods including Brahma, Visnu and

> Rudra have originated from him. He is Citswarupa and is present in all the

> bodies and controls all the bodies and controls all the bodies. The whole

> universe is His Body. He is the master of all and hence is called as the

> Great God Mahadeva. He is also known as Sthanu. He is the Soul of the

> Universe. He is the creator of the Universe and is the Universe Himself. He

> is the self-made (Swayambhu). He is full of the knowledge and can be

> understood only by the knowledge. He is the source of the light. Everything

> in the world is his form. " He has got (Anusasana 17,)four heads, five heads,

> and thousands of heads. He has three eyes. He is known as Hiranyagarbha,

> Suksmatma and Sutratma. All these three names are very important. He is the

> first of all and has no end. The seed originates from him. He enjoys sixty

> elements of the world, and these elements are his own parts. Sasthibhaga).

> He is Prajabeeja, Mahattatva and later coming Ahankara. He is called;

> Vansakar because he produces generations.

> All these descriptions and names are very important and should be borne in

> mind because the whole symbolism is to be explained on his basis. Before we

> go to that explanation, let us see what other knowledge the Ancient Indian

> had. That is also every important to understand the real meaning of lingam.

> In Mahabharata Santi parva A. 302 there is included a dialogue between

> Vasistha and Janaka. Here, Vasistha tells that twelve thousand Divine year

> make one Yuga. Four such Yugas make one Kalpa. That comes to 48 millions of

> Divine years. This is only one day of Brahmadeva together makes 96 millions

> of Divine years. Please note that these are divine years; and one divine day

> is equal to one human year. Hence we have to multiply 96 millions by 360. It

> comes to 34560 million human years. Vasistha syas that after the interval of

> 34560 million human years Isana, Jyotirupa, Avyaya, Sambhu starts his work.

> First of all this Sambhu creates Hiranyagarbha, also known as Visvarupi or

> Mahan or Bhootagraja which means the first thing in the world. Vedantis call

> his Hiranyagarbha as Sutratma. Yogasastra calls it ï¿½Mahanï¿½ or ï¿½AJAï¿½.

The

> Sankhyasastra calls it Vicitrarupa, Visvatma and Ekasara. Hiranyagarbha

> prepared all the things forming this world and occupied those himself. Thus

> he himself turned into many forms and hence got the name Visvarupa and

> Bahurupa. He generates himself in innumerable forms and becomes visible.

> This change from invisible to visible or unmanifest to manifest is named as

> Vidyasarga. (Please note that the real sense of the words Vyakta and Avyakta

> cannot be translated into English appropriately.)

> Hiranyagarbha gives rise to Ahnkar and Virat Prajapati. This process is

> called as Avidyasarga. From Ahankar all the microscopic things evolved.(

> Suksma-Bhuth-Sristi). Then arose five Mahabhutas-Akas, Vayu, Teja, Apah,

> Prthvi and its subjects namely Sabda, Sparssa, Rupa, Rasa, Gandha. After

> this the last of fifth generation evolved with five sense organs and the

> mind.

> Here the origin of the Universe is considered. You may remember the theory

> published by Sir Bernard Lowell, a research scientist of England, after

> catching up the micro-wave signals from the explosion. It is very

> astonishing to note the similarity between the two theories. According to

> Sir Lovell, the matter that became the universe later, was concentrated in a

> single primeval fireball. This fireball exploded 10,000 million years ago,

> into pieces that became the stars and Galaxies. Sage Vasistha uses the word

> ï¿½Jyotirupaï¿½ while Lovell uses the word Fireball. Is there any difference/

> Vasistha says " From that Jyotirupa everything which composes the universe,

> developed 34560 million year ago " . Lovell sayas, " The universe developed

> from the fireball 10,000 million years ago " . Is there any difference to us

> between 34560 million and 10,000 million years? Vasistha appears to be more

> precise while Lovell is approximate. Later on Lovell may accept Vasisthaï¿½s

> figure. You may have, now, been convinced how accurately our sages have

> described the creation of the Universe. True to the latest science. Can you,

> now, think of sexual union in Siva lingam which was worshipped by Vasistha?

> Let us now consider the living world. First of all, Amurt a Sambhu i.e.

> shapeless Siva was present. Siva Sambhu is not having any figure or form

> like that of a man or animal to possess any sex organ. He is Jyotirupa, that

> means He is energy. He has no end, no destruction. Energy has no

> destruction. He gave rise to Hiranyagarbha, which is the first living

> creature of structure and is named Bhutagraja. Visvavupa that means he is

> present in all the living things. (and non-living things also). He is Suksma

> that means smallest, microscopic, and Sthanu that means an atom which is

> always present. If we consider such a smallest particle, which is the first

> and foremost of all the living structures, on the base of modern science, we

> immediately think of D.N. A. molecule ï¿½ Deoxy-Ribo Nucleic acid.

> Now, let us consider the points of similarity between D.N.A. and Siva. It is

> well known that Siva is Ugra and his name also is Ugra, Ugra means an acid.

> D.N.A. is also and acid. Vedantï¿½ called that Hiranyagarbha as Sutratma,

> which means Atma in form of Sutra or thread or filament. The modern science

> admits that DNA molecule is really like a thread of filament. " In a single

> human germ-cell this filament of DNA is about one meter in length " , says

> Watson in his book ï¿½The Double Helixï¿½. The Yoga-science calls Mahan, the

> great. It is really great because it is present in all the living things.

> Its molecular weight is 10 lakhs , so the scientists call it ï¿½greatï¿½. It

is

> no birth, it develops from itself. DNA duplicates, that means develops from

> itself. Mr. J. D. Watson describes this as ï¿½Self replicationï¿½.

> Sankhya calls it Vicitrarupa, fantastically shaped. DNA also is

> fantastically shaped like a spiral stair-case or Helix. Sankhya calls it

> Visvatma meaning the Soul of the Universe. Modern science admits that DNA is

> the soul or the essential thing of the living world. It is named as

> Ekaksara, the immortal, the one who has no denudation, no loss, no end. DNA

> has no end, no loss; - it duplicates or replicates itself, giving rise to

> itself. Thus all these seven points tally.

> It is said that Ahankar is developed from Hiranyagarbha. Ahankara literally

> means a shape which can call itself as ï¿½Iï¿½(Aham). A Gene, Chromosome and

> Nucleus are developed from DNA, all of which can call themselves as ï¿½Iï¿½ or

> Selfï¿½. From which nucleus, a cell is formed; so the nuclear material is

> named as Prajabeeja. From this first cell so many cells develop by

> multiplication. These myriad of cells are Praja and the one from which all

> these originate is Prajapati. All these cells are microscopic, that is why

> they are named as Suksma-Bhuta-Srsti. (The microscopic or unicellular living

> world) Here , we can include virus, bacteria and all single-celled

> organisms. A cell itself appears as a ï¿½Pindiï¿½. The cell is Salunka while

the

> nucleus the Bana.

> It is said that after the microscopic world, all the visible world (Sthula

> Srsti) came into being. This world contains five sense organs, and the mind.

> This is true to modern science, which accepts that in the remote past, only

> single-celled organisms were present. Eventually, a number of cells grouped

> together to form a society with division of labour-thus developing many

> systems and sense organs of a single multicellular living organism. In this

> way a world of multicellular living beings came into existence.

> I would like to assert that all these theories are written 7500 years ago in

> Mahabharata by the Indian Sages Some theories, e.g. Those of Vasistha are

> still more ancient dating as back as 10,000 years ago. You will all agree,

> now, that these are not mere stories but are scientific truths, which

> corroborate with the modern science. Those ancient sages had recognized the

> ultimate truth of the life- The DNA molecule. They defined it as Siva and

> started worship.

> For this worship of Siva for ordinary layman, and for the sake of further

> studies for the pupils, the Rishis had to bring forth a symbol. The sages

> prepared a model according to their vision. This model is the Sivalingam.

> There is no form, no human or animal or any other figure in Siva as we have

> seen so far. Then how can it represent sex organs?

> Let us now proceed to see the details of Siva-lingam. There is a central

> pillar, the Bana, surrounding which there is Salunka. Spiraling around the

> Bana there is a cobra snake. There is Tripunda Gandha, a special mark on

> forehead. This special mark is really a special. It appears to be a picture

> of a snake spiraling around in axis. It looks like a spring. This shape

> resembling a spring is very important. We know that the DNA molecule is a

> Helix. The modern scientists compare it with a spiral stair-case, while the

> ancient sages have compared it with a spiral of cobra. The cobra takes

> support of Bana. DNA takes support of nucleus. The ancient comparison is

> more of reduplication. The reduplication of DNA mimics the copulation of the

> snakes. The snake is a living thing like DNA but the staircase is not

> living. The modern scientists ( Watson and Crick ) have prepared a model in

> 1953 of a spiral staircase to depict the same DNA molecule; while the

> ancient sages have prepared a model to depict the same DNA and that model is

> the Siva-Lingam. To have the sense of life in that model, they thought of

> the spirals of a cobra and to make it reach a common man, they put forth an

> idea of Tripunda Gandha, a sacred mark drawn on the forehead with our three

> fingers dipped in the Sandal-wood-paste. Quite an ingenious representation,

> is not it?

> We can see further simile. The Nucleic Acids are formed of four parts known

> as Mono-nucleotides. The four heads of Lord Siva are the same four parts.

> Siva is described to have three eyes. Each Mono-nucleotides. The four heads

> of Siva face towards the four directions. If we see comparatively simple

> Ribonucleic Acid, RNA, we can notice that its four Mononucleotides are at

> four sides. These nucleotides are Adenine, Guanine, Uracil (Thiamin)

> and Cytosine.

> More wonder lies ahead. At some places Maharashtra describes that Siva has

> four heads, at other places it is said that Siva has five heads, still other

> places mention that he has thousands of heads. I think as the research

> progressed the number of heads went on increasing. The modern science has

> passed through Guanine, Cytosine and Uracil. Then some researcher found out

> that instead of Uracil, Thiamin is present in some DNA molecules. So the

> concept of Tetra-Mono-Nucleotide (Chaturmukha) dissolved and that of Pentas-

> Mono-nucleotide (Panchmukha) came up. As the research progressed further,

> the scientists found out two thousand Mononucleotides establishing the

> concept of Sahasra-Shirsha- Thousands of heads. Now-a- days only four

> Mononucleotides namely Adenine, Guanine, Uracil (Thiamin) and Cytosine and

> suppose to be bases of DNA; but recently it is shown that 5-Methyl cytosine

> is present in some molecules. A single human germcall DNA contains 109 (ten

> raised to nine) base pairs. So the sages appear to be correct. We should not

> wonder about comparisons made with the human parts like head, eyes etc by

> the ancient sages; because Nobel Laureate Watson also has compared the

> sugarphosphate linkage with the back-bone, in his bookï¿½ The Double Helix

> ï¿½Such a comparison is not unscientific because it is essential for a common

> man to understand the subject.

> Siva is said to have five wads of hair on his head. (Shendi or Choti) A wad

> of hair was supposed to be the most important part of our body, in those

> ancient days. These five wads represent the five important basic parts, the

> five elements oxygen, Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Carbon, Phosphorus. There is no

> sixth Hydrogen element in DNA molecule.

> Siva is known us Vansakar, the one who produces generations.

> Children-grandchildren-grand- grand children and so on. When we speak of

> generations, we take into account the hereditary characters. It is an

> established fact that the hereditary characters are transmitted by genes of

> the chromosomes i.e. the nucleic Acid, the hereditary properties comprised

> within the chromosomes, the chromatin of which consists of long molecules of

> nucleoprotein, DNA arranged in a definite molecular pattern, which is

> reproduced with almost unerring accuracy, when new cells are formed. So from

> the modern point of view DNA is Vansakar. The same thing is told by our

> ancient sages.

> " The smallest molecule of life is Siva " say our ages, but we call it DNA.

> The symbol of DNA is Helical. While the symbol of Siva is Lingam. After

> considering all the similarities, we have to conclude that the sages must

> have studied all this science and must have seen the molecule of life, DNA,

> by their third eye of wisdom. It is said in Linga Purana that " only the

> intellectuals can see the minutest form of Siva with the eye of wisdom,

> ordinary people cannot do so. Hence for the benefit of the laymen the sages

> evolved the model of Siva as a Lingam. " Watson and crick and very few others

> have seen the DNA molecule with the eye of wisdom. All other scientists have

> to be satisfied with the spiral staircase. If we go on putting the Lingas

> one above the other, with some rotation of Salunka, it will mimic the model

> of DNA prepared by modern science. Thus the similarity is perfect as far as

> the life molecule is concerned; but this is not all.

> We have considered the life so far; but Siva is not the Master of life

> alone; Siva is the master of the Lifeless things also. He is Swami of Chara

> and Achara. Let us now consider the things the things without life (Achara).

> So far we considered Biochemistry, now we well deal with Physics.

> Bhagwat Skandh 3, Adhyaya 11, Slockas1 and 2, quote the teaching of sage

> Maitreya. Maitreya says " If we go/ dividing matter, a stage will come when

> it can not be divided further. This smallest particle which cannot be

> divided is Paramanu. The Paramanu is separate from others and it is not in

> union with any other. Aggregation of such Paramanus makes matter visible as

> an apparition. "

> This definition is not of an atom, as it appears apparently, but it defines

> Paramanu which means a sub-atomic particle like Proton. Now it is proved

> that atom is divisible. The word Atom is derived from Anu. Anu is divisible

> but Paramanu is not divisible. Here the word Paramanu is divisible into

> Proton, Neutron and Electron. These particles are Paramanus according to the

> definition of Bhagwat.

> Bhagwat has mentioned at 3-11-5 that two Paramanus together form an Anu, and

> three Paramanus together form a Trsarenu. This definitely shows that

> Maitreya knew of Proton, Neutron, Electron and an Atom. He named Proton,

> Neutron and Electron as Paramanus. He knew that Proton and Electron, two

> Paramanus together formed an Atom which he named as ï¿½Anuï¿½. He also knew

that

> three Paramanus i.e. Proton, Neutron, Electron together formed an atom which

> he named as ï¿½ Trasrenu ï¿½.

> John Dalton was the first person to put up the theory of Atom in 1808 AD

> Bhagwat is written around 1600 years BC. There may arise a debate on the

> date of Bhagwat, but is certain that Bhagwat is not written after 1808 AD,

> after John Dalton. Nobody can say, at least today, that Bhagwat is written

> after the discovery of atom by Dalton in 1808 AD. I will not wonder if some

> brain puts forth such a theory in future, at least when we see todayï¿½s

> research about ancient literature particularly Mahabharata. I do not worry

> about the future. Today I assert that the theory of atom was established

> around 4600 years BC. in India at least three thousand years before John

> Dalton.

> John Dalton and his contemporaries were wrong in stating indivisibility of

> atom . In his time in 1808 AD though all the scientists accepted that an

> atom was not divisible, Bhagwat was saying that Anu was divisible in two

> parts and those parts were named as Paramanus.

> Later on Bequeral proved in 1895 AD that an Atom can be divided. Still

> later, Rutherford proved that there were smaller particles of atom. Thomas

> studied the cathode rays and discovered Electron which is negatively

> charged. Rutherford discovered positively charged Proton in 1911 AD. James

> Chandwick discovered the third particle Neutron in 1932 AD. All these

> discoveries proved how accurately Maitreya had quoted his discovery more

> than three thousand years ago.

> Still more wonder are written in Bhagwat. Maitreya says. " There are so many

> materials on this earth, they have specific properties and seen in Paramanu

> the ultimate basic state now proved by science. There is a group or

> collection of Paramanu and they are named as Parama-Mahana. "

> Here it is clearly stated that there are a number of particles which, later

> on, get converted into Paramanus i.e. proton, Neutron, Electron. These

> particles are named as Paramanus i.e. proton, Neutron, Electron. These

> particles are named as Parama ï¿½ Mahana. The Parama ï¿½ Mahana gives birth to

> occupies the whole of the Universe.

> In a lecture on Siva-lingam in July 1975, I had described this Parama-Mahana

> a group of sub-atomic particles. Later on Dr. Pyarelal Jain discovered the

> charmed Particles and published an article on 26th August 1975, one month

> later than my discovery. His work proved and re-enforced my discovery about

> Bhagwat. I congratulate Dr. Jain for his discovery.

> Now, we shall consider Siva-lingam again. There is a central Bana, which

> represents three Gods Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. Parvati is represented by

> Salunka which is oval or oblong in shape with three ridges encarved at its

> periphery. Parvati is Maya and Sakti. She is a sort of energy field and

> plays very important role in the universe. She is wife of Siva and half of

> Siva. (Ardhangi). She dances around Siva all the time.

> If we see the figure of an atom we find two parts-central nucleus and around

> it an oval electron field-Bana and Salunka-Out of the great Trinity two are

> more important namely Hari and Hara. Hari is Purush, a man i.e. positive

> proton. Hara is indifferent, without any attraction (Virakta), so Hara means

> a Neutron having no charge at all. The wife of Hara is Sakti who plays with

> the Universe including Brahma and Vishnu. She is the mother of all. She is

> female i.e. negative. So the negative Electron field is Salunka representing

> Shakti.

> All of us know that a lotus came out of the navel of Vishnu and on that

> lotus Brahma is seated. The lotus depicts a delicate bond which keeps Brahma

> bound to Vishnu. The stem of lotus being flexible, Brahma moves around

> Vishnu in his lotus. This story shows that Electron means Brahma moving

> around Proton or Vishnu. Brahma is circling and playing in the Electron

> field- Field is energy or Maya, the Salunka. Maya is the force of attraction

> of nucleus or Proton on the electron, so it is depicted by the delicate

> lotus, joining two Virat Purushas Brahma and Vishnu (Proton & Electron).

> There are always three ridges encarved on Salunka. These three ridges are

> the three orbital of electron field. In Sanskrit, three means many. So the

> three ridges represent many orbital of electron field.

> Siva himself does not do anything. He has given Vishnu the full authority to

> maintain the universe. Brahma is to produce every thing. Brahma and Vishnu

> work with the energy of Siva, the Sakti. Another name of Sakti is Renuka.

> The name is very descriptive, Renuka is one who produces Renu or molecule.

> Two atoms (axa) make one molecule (Renu). The energy which forms the

> molecules is known as Renuka; modern scientists call it ï¿½Valencyï¿½ The

actual

> producer of molecules is Electron or Brahma. Modern physics shows that

> electrons are shared between the atoms to form a molecule; and because of

> the formation of the molecules his world came into existence. So ancient

> Indian concept hat Brahma produced the world appears to be true. Brahma

> means electron.

> Motherly or reproductive energy forming molecules is Renuka. This one is a

> form of Parvati, But there is another form of Parvati, known as

> ï¿½Rudraniï¿½-very destructive, terrible and catastrophic in nature. Rudrani

is

> always around Rudra. Rudra is Neutron who is situated in Bana or nucleus. If

> somebody tries to smash or crush this Bana (nucleus) the Nuclear fission as

> it known these days-this Rudrani. Portable, the first scientist sage,

> knowing this destructive energy, did the first atomic explosion in an

> underground cell near a river and outside the town. That is why, the

> tradition-loving Hindus still erect temples of Siva near a river, outside

> town, away form population, and the Lingam is always placed underground.

> Sometimes Siva-temple is on the mountains but in any case Lingam is always

> underground. Thus lingam is a model of an atom.

> In Yoga-Vasistha Valmiki tells Rama, " I saw dancing in the space. That time

> it appeared that the space itself is personified. He looked like a great

> pillar or blue flames. A shadow developed from Him and started dancing in

> front if Him. She appeared as if the darkness itself had been personified, I

> ran with the speed of mind for thousands of years but I could hardly see her

> head or feet, so tall was she. She is named as ï¿½Kallï¿½ or ï¿½Bhairaviï¿½.

> Rudra, the great flame and Kali, the darkness suggest positivity and

> negativity. The same concept is confirmed by the discovery of Dr. Pyarelal

> Jain about the Charmed Particles which are named as Quark and Antiquark.

> Siva and Sakti. Rudra and Kali. These two produce positive Proton and

> negative Electron. Kali is dancing Siva. Negative Electron is also dancing

> around positive proton. So the simile is perfect. The dance of Kali suggests

> three types of movements namely rotation, revolution and vibration. While

> dancing Kali vibrates her feet, rotates around herself / and while in these

> two actions she rotates around Shiva. All these three motions are present in

> the Electron.

> Male and female, flame and shadow, definitely suggest positive and negative.

> Any energy has got these two poles positive and negative. Understanding

> fully this fact our ancestors prepared the lingam, because they had the

> knowledge of Magnetism, and they knew that the north pole of the earth is

> negative, they placed the negatively or Salunka pointing towards the North.

> This is the tradition even today, though the science behind is lost.

> Shiva lingam is bathed continuously, but the water falling down from the

> lingam is never touched. People never drink that water as a Teerth though it

> is a custom in case of other Gods like Vishnu etc. This about the water of

> Siva has a root in the experience of the remote past when experiments were

> done on this atom model. The sages knew that the water does not remain

> ordinary potable water, it becomes heavy water due to Radiation from Lingam.

> So they ordered the pupils not to touch or drink that water and not to cross

> it while flowing away. This tradition came upto us without the scientific

> knowledge behind.

> Siva lingam is always placed near a river, because the sages were doing

> experiments on the atoms and they know that if some accident takes place,

> there will be radiation Fall-out, and to save from that radiation hazards

> the only way was to jump into the rivers and remains immersed in the water.

> All these traditions point to the presence of the knowledge of the atom and

> atomic energy.

> we saw uptill now, that the smallest living thing is also Siva-lingam, and

> the smallest nonliving thing is also Siva-lingam. Let us now see the

> biggest, because Siva is said to be the smallest as well as the biggest

> because Siva is said to be the smallest as well as the biggest. Some great

> mountains are shaped like lingam e.g. Sivaneri. The biggest mountain of the

> world, Himalayas looks like Siva-lingam. Why talk of only mountains? The

> biggest Planetary Nebula and Extra-Galactic Nebula look like Sivalingam.

> Siva is described as the biggest of the big and Jyotirmaya; if you look at

> the picture of a Nebula, you will realize how correct is the description. If

> We consider the whole Universe, it is also like Siva-lingam. Einstein has

> rightly said that a straight line is not straight, if extended to infinity,

> it forms an oblong. The universe is an oblong, Salunka is also an oblong.

> Galaxy mass is 2500 light years in heights. Our sages recognized all these

> facts and depicted in Siva-lingam, this tradition is still followed strictly

> by Hindus though the reason behind is forgotten.

> Now you must have realized that our sages had studied thoroughly the minute

> and the enormous, living and nonliving, stars and universe, and found out

> the ultimate energy is only one but has many manifestations. Studying

> completely that supreme energy the sages prepared a model for the students

> to study it and for the ordinary people to worship it. The symbol of that

> energy is Siva-lingam and the energy is Siva himself.

> Our ancestors had done a great work but as the time passed, the real meaning

> was lost, leaving behind the traditions and literature which we can study.

> It is our duty to study the whole of the ancient literature which we can

> study. It is our duty to study the whole of the ancient literature and

> traditions to revitalize the knowledge. I am sure by this way we can make

> advance in the scientific progress and India can once again, show the light

> of knowledge to the world.

>

> --------------------

> Hariharan Shivadas

> satyam nasti paro dharma!

>

> Regards,

> Ramesh

>

September 30, 2009

Dear Mr Hari Mallaji,Please go ahead and give the explanations in a more detail way. ThanksSincerely,Udayabhanu Panickaraum namaH Shivaaya OUR BODY IS THE ABODE OF THE JEEVATMAN, WHICH IS IN

FACT THE PARABRAHMAN. LET US NOT MAKE IT A GRAVEYARD. LET US NOT EAT FLESH. LET US BE VEGETARIANS AND STAY HEALTHY. Animals are to be loved, not eaten. Eating flesh is good neither for the mind nor for the intellect, not even for the body. It distorts the basic character of human.

--- On Wed, 9/30/09, hari <harimalla wrote:hari <harimalla Re: Shiva Linga - What is it? Date: Wednesday, September 30, 2009, 5:51 AM

Dear shri Ramesh Krishnamoorthyji,

our religion can be explained in many ways, there is no doubt about that.Shri Hariharan Shivadas's efforts are also laudable.Although he is often near the truth, he is not exact in his explantion.

Thus you may be interested to know what exactly is a shiva lingam.

The exact representation fo the Shiva lingam is known as earth moon bary center.

This is the center of the lunar orbit and shiva lingam represents the monthly earth wobble.This is the astrological explanation and this is the exact meaning or symobol of the Shiva lingam. If you are interested it can be explained further.It is on the basis of the Shiva lingam that our festivals have to be shifted one month backwards.I wish people took interest in where our religion has gone wrong. Where our scriptures have been belittled in practise and gone out of sequence with our glorified religion.

Regards,

Hari Malla

-- In om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Ramesh Krishnamoorthy <ramdaus > wrote:

>

> Beloved All, Below is a wonderful explanation of one Shree Hariharan

> Shivadas on what a Shiva Linga is. A long one but a wonderful read.

>

> The link below is the actual thread where I got it from:

>

> http://www.hindunet .com/forum/ showflat. php?Cat= & Board=godsgoddes ses & Number= 68282 & page= 0 & view=collapsed & sb=5 & o= & fpart=all

>

> Everybody who worships Siva, the great god of Hindus, or those who have seen

> Siva-worship, known what Siva-lingam is Shiva lingam, also called as Pindi,

> is composed of two parts. A central oval mass standing like a pillar is

> ï¿½Banaï¿½ and around this Bana, there is an oval or oblong ï¿½Salunkaï¿½ or ï¿½Vediï¿½.