Diksha

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One esteemed ember writes: For the astika sannyasis yes. However Vivekananda simply took up the

saffron robes on his own without any diksha after the death of

Ramakrishna. (which is why I don't use the honorific Swami with his name.) That doesn't make him a bad man or not commendable in other ways ------------------From the desk of Veeraswamy KrishnarajRamanamaharishi and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa did not have Diksha from any Guru. Diksha is important but not essential. HTML clipboardSparsa Diksa, Digdrsti, Manasi Drsti: Initiation by touch, sight and mind.

Diksa, Initiation and teaching, is of three kinds: Sparsa, by touch; Draksanjana or Digdrsti, by sight; and

Manasa, by thought.

Sparsa initiation is compared to the loving tender nourishing and caring of the chicks in the warmth of the wings by the mother bird. The preceptor Guru draws to his mind the god or goddess, meditates on Sivapura in the hand, chants the Mula Mantra (root mantra) and touches the body of the disciple. The act of

visual initiation and instruction is compared to the nourishing of the fry (baby fish) by sight by the ever vigilant mother fish. The Guru draws the image of Kamashi in his mind with eyes closed, opens his eyes with delight and looks at the disciple. The act of thought initiation and teaching is compared to the nourishing of the baby tortoises by the mother by thinking about them. Grace comes to the disciple proportional to the presence of Sakti in him. Where there is no sakti (in him), there is no liberation. Initiation by Diksa Samskara (sacred rites) is the preliminary step before the actual event. The authentic Guru is Brahma himself without four heads, Vishnu himself without four hands and Siva himself without the third eye. http://www.bhagavadgitausa.com/TANTRA.htmVeeraswamy Krishnaraj

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I do not know from where you got this information, Swami Vivekananda is a great Saint, his relationship with his Guru Ramakrishna Paramahamsa is karmik and pre-destined, Ramakrishna waited for Vivekananda to come and spread his teachings to the world. Vivekananda became a monk because of his love and compassion for human suffering, when he was young he could not see poor people suffering, his heart swelled with compassion and he did anything to help poor and downtrodden, this has lead him to the path service.

 

We should see the intention and achievements of the great saints not on trivial things like getting diksha etc. there could be thousands who got diksha from Ramakrishna Paramahamsa but where are they?

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

Divakar. --- On Thu, 8/27/09, myumbra-bgusa <myumbra-bgusa wrote:

myumbra-bgusa <myumbra-bgusa Diksha Date: Thursday, August 27, 2009, 7:33 AM

 

 

 

 

One esteemed ember writes: For the astika sannyasis yes. However Vivekananda simply took up the saffron robes on his own without any diksha after the death of Ramakrishna. (which is why I don't use the honorific Swami with his name.) That doesn't make him a bad man or not commendable in other ways ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---------From the desk of Veeraswamy KrishnarajRamanamaharishi and Ramakrishna Paramahamsa did not have Diksha from any Guru. Diksha is important but not essential.

Sparsa Diksa, Digdrsti, Manasi Drsti: Initiation by touch, sight and mind.

Diksa, Initiation and teaching, is of three kinds: Sparsa, by touch; Draksanjana or Digdrsti, by sight; and Manasa, by thought. Sparsa initiation is compared to the loving tender nourishing and caring of the chicks in the warmth of the wings by the mother bird. The preceptor Guru draws to his mind the god or goddess, meditates on Sivapura in the hand, chants the Mula Mantra (root mantra) and touches the body of the disciple. The act of visual initiation and instruction is compared to the nourishing of the fry (baby fish) by sight by the ever vigilant mother fish. The Guru draws the image of Kamashi in his mind with eyes closed, opens his eyes with delight and looks at the disciple. The act of thought

initiation and teaching is compared to the nourishing of the baby tortoises by the mother by thinking about them. Grace comes to the disciple proportional to the presence of Sakti in him. Where there is no sakti (in him), there is no liberation. Initiation by Diksa Samskara (sacred rites) is the preliminary step before the actual event. The authentic Guru is Brahma himself without four heads, Vishnu himself without four hands and Siva himself without the third eye.

http://www.bhagavad gitausa.com/ TANTRA.htm

Veeraswamy Krishnaraj