Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Sri Krishna. The essence of Hindu spirituality has been elaborated in three scriptures. The Upanishads present the absolute wisdom revealed to seers. Reasoned wisdom has been elaborated in the Brahma-sutras. The Bhagavad-Gita elaborates on how to live in a way that is conducive to attaining salvation through wisdom. Krishna’s advice to Arjuna at Kurukshetra – on the battlefield – encapsulates the essence of wise living that will enable one to remain balanced and peaceful while executing one’s responsibilities in this world and eventually help one to attain great spiritual heights. The miraculous life of Sri Krishna, the incarnation of the Absolute, embodies the joyful manifestation of the omnipotence and omniscience in human form. This significant dualism of the divine drama with human undertones creates a multilevel appeal and a grand spiritual metaphor of Krishna Leela, conveying spiritual truth with poetic beauty. In the life of Krishna we find the consummation of our ideal for worldly life. He neither followed nor advocated life-negating renunciation. At the same time he did not show any attachment to mundane life. The dialectics of worldly life with happiness and sorrow was on his fingertips; so clinging to anything worldly was absolutely alien to his nature. He played perfectly the role of a naughty child, a playful youth, statesman par excellence, a benevolent king, an intimate friend, a beloved husband and above all an embodiment of wisdom with utmost objectivity – despite being anchored in his true being as an incarnation of the Absolute. That is why his prescription for the malady called life is to maintain non-attachment to anything and everything under all circumstances. He exemplified the practice of the same through his own life. The birth and childhood stories of Krishna are prodigious. Knowing that the eighth son of his sister Devaki will vanquish him, King Kansa imprisons Krishna’s parents. Yet his sister (Krishna’s mother) Devaki conceives and when she delivers the child Kansa is unable to kill Baby Krishna. Through divine intervention, the baby is taken away and another is sent in its place, the Goddess Maya. The Rive Yamuna parts its waters and makes way for Vasudeva to carry Baby Krishna out to safety. The dance of the interplay of spirit and nature manifested in annihilation of Putana, Vatsasura or Bakasura by child Krishna heralds the victory of good over evil. In the same way mother Yashoda was shown the entire cosmos in the small mouth of the child. Yet the naughty playfulness of the child added an eternal human element to the manifestation of divine incarnation. This dualism has made Krishna so human and lovable and yet so divine and mysterious. The irresistible attraction of the melody of his enchanting flute and the divine magnetism of cosmic vibration like centripetal power had maddening impact on all. Consciousness at the root of creation is all-pervading and it attracts the diffused states of mind for ultimate peace and solace from the pangs of delusion. That is precisely why in the Gita, Krishna advises Arjuna to do his duty – knowing full well that the result will be in the hands of the Almighty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 15, 2009 Report Share Posted August 15, 2009 Mr.Shastriji Iskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief on Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc. and you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 jai gurudev iskcon is founded by ex-christians under guidance of prabhupadji. they r hell bent on dividing hindus. i am myself member of iskcon,and i have refuted them time and again,still they stupidly believe in falsehood. only lord krishan can put sense into them. or maybe even if he talks to them they will say to lord krishna-u r not lord krishna. om shakti gopal On 8/15/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: Mr.ShastrijiIskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief on Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc. and you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 16, 2009 Report Share Posted August 16, 2009 Namaste Gopalji I agree while you say they are hell bent on deviding hindus. They had one forum on net known as india divine forum and that closed on 8th of August,real efforts put there to degrade our Gods and Devas by them ending in a disaster of closing that forum,these people don't know the outcome i.e sin when they use term Demi Gods.We are liberal here and accept and read posts on other sampradaya but atleast I personally wish that those posters MUST create an awareness for those who are deaf and blind towards their sampradaya and dont ready to listen others.Can one clap using one hand? Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > jai gurudev > > iskcon is founded by ex-christians under guidance of prabhupadji. > > they r hell bent on dividing hindus. > > i am myself member of iskcon,and i have refuted them > time and again,still they stupidly believe in falsehood. > > only lord krishan can put sense into them. > > or maybe even if he talks to them they will say to > lord krishna-u r not lord krishna. > > > > om shakti > > gopal > > > > > On 8/15/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: > > > > > > > > Mr.Shastriji > > Iskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief on > > Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc. and > > you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in > > Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 jai gurudev dear friend, satyam param dheemahi = truth shall triumph just expose the anti hindu designs of the iskonites that is all. srila prabhupad and his followers maybe great saints but not of the caliber of lord vedvyasji who compiled the 4 ved and wrote the 18 main puran and some 20 up-puran. in shiv puran lord shiv is supreme,in vishnu puran lord vishnu is supreme. we as hindus know this fact taht all r part of the divine parambrahma parmaatma adi shakti. this just has to be exposed to world. fyi,i am a believer in truth of evolution,as its clearly said that adi shakti is the prakruti and all living and non living is part of the same divine parambrahma parmatma adi shakti its very clearly written in sri devi atharvasheesh. but iskonites start argument and they sound like fundamentalist christians/muslims. they dont care for truth,only srila prabhupad's words,which i respect but do not believe to be 100% truth,bcoz evolution is proven fact where as creation is a myth. so even i have had many run-in's with their fake pandits,and fortunately by grace of all gods and goddesses including lord radha krishna i have defeated the iskonites so when i do visit the juhu mandir [ i live in mumbai near iskcon temple ] they pourposely ignore me. this is the fact i am stating,anyway back to the subject let us save satya and sanatan dharma from these anti hindus pro falsehood jihadis. shiv and shakti laxmi and narayan r one,we r also in them,this is the wiscom of ved and vedanta,tantra and puranas.let us expose truth iskconites will be defeated easily. even some other sects like swaminarayan etc r like them and ened to be shown the truth. om shakti gopal On 8/16/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: Namaste GopaljiI agree while you say they are hell bent on deviding hindus.They had one forum on net known as india divine forum and that closed on 8th of August,real efforts put there to degrade our Gods and Devas by them ending in a disaster of closing that forum,these people don't know the outcome i.e sin when they use term Demi Gods.We are liberal here and accept and read posts on other sampradaya but atleast I personally wish that those posters MUST create an awareness for those who are deaf and blind towards their sampradaya and dont ready to listen others.Can one clap using one hand? Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: >> jai gurudev> > iskcon is founded by ex-christians under guidance of prabhupadji.> > they r hell bent on dividing hindus.> > i am myself member of iskcon,and i have refuted them > time and again,still they stupidly believe in falsehood.> > only lord krishan can put sense into them.> > or maybe even if he talks to them they will say to> lord krishna-u r not lord krishna. > > > > om shakti> > gopal> > > > > On 8/15/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: > >> >> >> > Mr.Shastriji> > Iskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief on> > Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc. and > > you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in> > Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness.> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 Very well said Gopalji,you are a true devotee in my humble feeling. Remain blessed and may God shower his blessings on you and yours. , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: > > jai gurudev > > > dear friend, > > > satyam param dheemahi = truth shall triumph > > > just expose the anti hindu designs of the iskonites that is all. > > srila prabhupad and his followers maybe great saints but not > of the caliber of lord vedvyasji who compiled the 4 ved and > wrote the 18 main puran and some 20 up-puran. > > in shiv puran lord shiv is supreme,in vishnu puran lord > vishnu is supreme. > > we as hindus know this fact taht all r part of the divine > parambrahma parmaatma adi shakti. > > this just has to be exposed to world. > > fyi,i am a believer in truth of evolution,as its clearly said that > adi shakti is the prakruti and all living and non living > is part of the same divine parambrahma parmatma adi shakti > its very clearly written in sri devi atharvasheesh. > > but iskonites start argument and they sound like fundamentalist > christians/muslims. > > they dont care for truth,only srila prabhupad's words,which i respect > but do not believe to be 100% truth,bcoz evolution is proven fact > where as creation is a myth. > > so even i have had many run-in's with their fake pandits,and fortunately > by grace of all gods and goddesses including lord radha krishna i have > defeated the iskonites so when i do visit the juhu mandir [ i live in mumbai > > near iskcon temple ] they pourposely ignore me. > > this is the fact i am stating,anyway back to the subject let us save > satya and sanatan dharma from these anti hindus pro falsehood > jihadis. > > shiv and shakti laxmi and narayan r one,we r also in them,this is the > wiscom of ved and vedanta,tantra and puranas.let us expose truth > iskconites will be defeated easily. > > even some other sects like swaminarayan etc r like them and ened to be > shown the truth. > > > > om shakti > > gopal > > > > > On 8/16/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste Gopalji > > I agree while you say they are hell bent on deviding hindus. > > They had one forum on net known as india divine forum and that closed on > > 8th of August,real efforts put there to degrade our Gods and Devas by them > > ending in a disaster of closing that forum,these people don't know the > > outcome i.e sin when they use term Demi Gods.We are liberal here and accept > > and read posts on other sampradaya but atleast I personally wish that those > > posters MUST create an awareness for those who are deaf and blind towards > > their sampradaya and dont ready to listen others.Can one clap using one > > hand? > > Om Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > --- In <%40>\ , > > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@> wrote: > > > > > > jai gurudev > > > > > > iskcon is founded by ex-christians under guidance of prabhupadji. > > > > > > they r hell bent on dividing hindus. > > > > > > i am myself member of iskcon,and i have refuted them > > > time and again,still they stupidly believe in falsehood. > > > > > > only lord krishan can put sense into them. > > > > > > or maybe even if he talks to them they will say to > > > lord krishna-u r not lord krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > om shakti > > > > > > gopal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8/15/09, tpmods <no_reply <no_reply%40>> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mr.Shastriji > > > > Iskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief > > on > > > > Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc. > > and > > > > you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in > > > > Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2009 Report Share Posted August 17, 2009 jai gurudev sorry to say this,let us not do back slapping and actually slap the falsehood spreaders,and let us win the war for sanatan dharma our ancestors and our future generations. jai maa shakti gopal On 8/17/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: Very well said Gopalji,you are a true devotee in my humble feeling.Remain blessed and may God shower his blessings on you and yours. , gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 wrote: >> jai gurudev> > > dear friend,> > > satyam param dheemahi = truth shall triumph> > > just expose the anti hindu designs of the iskonites that is all. > > srila prabhupad and his followers maybe great saints but not> of the caliber of lord vedvyasji who compiled the 4 ved and> wrote the 18 main puran and some 20 up-puran.> > in shiv puran lord shiv is supreme,in vishnu puran lord > vishnu is supreme.> > we as hindus know this fact taht all r part of the divine> parambrahma parmaatma adi shakti.> > this just has to be exposed to world.> > fyi,i am a believer in truth of evolution,as its clearly said that > adi shakti is the prakruti and all living and non living> is part of the same divine parambrahma parmatma adi shakti> its very clearly written in sri devi atharvasheesh.> > but iskonites start argument and they sound like fundamentalist > christians/muslims.> > they dont care for truth,only srila prabhupad's words,which i respect> but do not believe to be 100% truth,bcoz evolution is proven fact> where as creation is a myth. > > so even i have had many run-in's with their fake pandits,and fortunately> by grace of all gods and goddesses including lord radha krishna i have> defeated the iskonites so when i do visit the juhu mandir [ i live in mumbai > > near iskcon temple ] they pourposely ignore me.> > this is the fact i am stating,anyway back to the subject let us save> satya and sanatan dharma from these anti hindus pro falsehood > jihadis.> > shiv and shakti laxmi and narayan r one,we r also in them,this is the> wiscom of ved and vedanta,tantra and puranas.let us expose truth> iskconites will be defeated easily. > > even some other sects like swaminarayan etc r like them and ened to be> shown the truth.> > > > om shakti> > gopal> > > > > On 8/16/09, tpmods <no_reply > wrote: > >> >> >> > Namaste Gopalji> > I agree while you say they are hell bent on deviding hindus.> > They had one forum on net known as india divine forum and that closed on > > 8th of August,real efforts put there to degrade our Gods and Devas by them> > ending in a disaster of closing that forum,these people don't know the> > outcome i.e sin when they use term Demi Gods.We are liberal here and accept > > and read posts on other sampradaya but atleast I personally wish that those> > posters MUST create an awareness for those who are deaf and blind towards> > their sampradaya and dont ready to listen others.Can one clap using one > > hand?> > Om Shanti Shanti Shanti.> > <%40>, > > gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123@> wrote:> > >> > > jai gurudev> > >> > > iskcon is founded by ex-christians under guidance of prabhupadji.> > > > > > they r hell bent on dividing hindus.> > >> > > i am myself member of iskcon,and i have refuted them> > > time and again,still they stupidly believe in falsehood.> > > > > > only lord krishan can put sense into them.> > >> > > or maybe even if he talks to them they will say to> > > lord krishna-u r not lord krishna.> > >> > > > > >> > > om shakti> > >> > > gopal> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 8/15/09, tpmods <no_reply <no_reply%40>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Mr.Shastriji> > > > Iskcon describe God Shiva as DemiGod,not only Shivji but their belief> > on > > > > Maa Durga is such that I cannot write it here,same is for Maa Kali etc.> > and> > > > you must be aware of this hence I request you to post similar posts in> > > > Iskcon forums on God Shiva for their awareness. > > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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