Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Dear Krishnaraj,I wanted to know about Astral world and not astral body. I am conversant with expressions like Subtle Body, Causal Body. Thanks for sharing info. available to you.G.Balasubramanian"myumbra-bgusa" <myumbra-bgusa Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 10:12:01 AM Astral Body Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa <myumbra-bgusa wrote: myumbra-bgusa <myumbra-bgusa Astral Body Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2009 Report Share Posted July 27, 2009 The concept of God in Upanishads is the Brahman or the Universal Soul(synonymous with the Absolute or Supreme Being)Param-Atman . Every human being is Atman (individual soul-jiva-atman) and that is the same as the Universal Soul. Brahman or Supreme being is compared to a fire and Individual souls have been compared to sparks emanating from the flames of the fire in the Mundaka Upanishad. Brahman of the Upanishads is the impersonal,transcendental power that is responsible for all creation and the cosmos. Hindus conceptualised a God for worship. Upanishads describe Nirguna Brahman as the Universal Soul and they have also offered a Saguna brahman, who is antithesis of Nirguna Brahman(Avyakta or unmanifest). Saguna Brahman is the manifested form of the Universal Soul. Both these are Gods. The Upanishads declare that Atma and Brahman are one and the same. Thus Param-Atma is God .Atma is also God.G.BalasubramanianDivakara Tanjore <div_tan Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 2:52:52 PMRe: Astral Body Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ > wrote: myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 The concepts seem to be a beyond my comprehension and goes to show that there is so much of unlearnt knowledge. Can this be explained in simpler terms? "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan wrote: Divakara Tanjore <div_tanRe: Astral Body Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:22 AM Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ > wrote: myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 I understand that Sir, when we say that Atma goes to a different plane that dosent mean Paramatma it means Jeevatma, that is the difference.--- On Mon, 7/27/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsubRe: Astral Body Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 3:56 PM The concept of God in Upanishads is the Brahman or the Universal Soul(synonymous with the Absolute or Supreme Being)Param-Atman . Every human being is Atman (individual soul-jiva-atman) and that is the same as the Universal Soul. Brahman or Supreme being is compared to a fire and Individual souls have been compared to sparks emanating from the flames of the fire in the Mundaka Upanishad. Brahman of the Upanishads is the impersonal,transcen dental power that is responsible for all creation and the cosmos. Hindus conceptualised a God for worship. Upanishads describe Nirguna Brahman as the Universal Soul and they have also offered a Saguna brahman, who is antithesis of Nirguna Brahman(Avyakta or unmanifest). Saguna Brahman is the manifested form of the Universal Soul. Both these are Gods. The Upanishads declare that Atma and Brahman are one and the same. Thus Param-Atma is God .Atma is also God.G.Balasubramanian Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009 2:52:52 PMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Body Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ > wrote: myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2009 Report Share Posted July 28, 2009 Sriram, the best way to understand this is to read the books I suggested and also the link I provided Great Teachers like Swami Yogananda and Swami Sivananda have clearly described this in simple terms also read "Many Souls Many Masters" book by Dr.Weiss, this will give you a clear understanding of the re-incarnation process. Thanks, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, Sriram S <sriram_s_98 wrote: Sriram S <sriram_s_98Re: Astral Body Date: Monday, July 27, 2009, 6:02 PM The concepts seem to be a beyond my comprehension and goes to show that there is so much of unlearnt knowledge. Can this be explained in simpler terms? "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."--- On Tue, 7/28/09, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote: Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, July 28, 2009, 12:22 AM Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ > wrote: myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2009 Report Share Posted July 29, 2009 Atma goes like this... pl see the attachment image i visualised. m.namasivayam--- On Tue, 28/7/09, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan wrote: Divakara Tanjore <div_tanRe: Astral Body Date: Tuesday, 28 July, 2009, 9:25 PM I understand that Sir, when we say that Atma goes to a different plane that dosent mean Paramatma it means Jeevatma, that is the difference.--- On Mon, 7/27/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub (AT) (DOT) . com> wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 3:56 PM The concept of God in Upanishads is the Brahman or the Universal Soul(synonymous with the Absolute or Supreme Being)Param-Atman . Every human being is Atman (individual soul-jiva-atman) and that is the same as the Universal Soul. Brahman or Supreme being is compared to a fire and Individual souls have been compared to sparks emanating from the flames of the fire in the Mundaka Upanishad. Brahman of the Upanishads is the impersonal,transcen dental power that is responsible for all creation and the cosmos. Hindus conceptualised a God for worship. Upanishads describe Nirguna Brahman as the Universal Soul and they have also offered a Saguna brahman, who is antithesis of Nirguna Brahman(Avyakta or unmanifest). Saguna Brahman is the manifested form of the Universal Soul. Both these are Gods. The Upanishads declare that Atma and Brahman are one and the same. Thus Param-Atma is God .Atma is also God.G.Balasubramanian Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009 2:52:52 PMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Body Thanks Veeraswamy ji, for providing the bridge from the scriptural world to the metaphysical world and providing finer details about different lokas, this information was what I was seeking for a long time. To Answer another Balasubramaniam ji's question, Yes, when Soul or Atma is mentioned it refers to Jeevatma unless explicitly mentioned, I did not come across any master or new age teacher refering to god as Atma in general terms, they use Absoulte or Brahman to describe God. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Mon, 7/27/09, myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ > wrote: myumbra-bgusa@ <myumbra-bgusa@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Astral Bodyom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 27, 2009, 10:12 AM Mr. Subramaniyam was asking about Astral body.Here is a reference to it with link.astral body: The subtle, nonphysical body (sukshma sharira) in which the soul functions in the astral plane, the inner world also called Antarloka. The astral body includes the pranic sheath (pranamaya kosha), the instinctive- intellectual sheath (manomaya kosha) and the cognitive sheath (vijnanamaya kosha) -- with the pranic sheath discarded at the death of the physical body.astral entity: Any being abiding in the astral plane. See: astral plane.causal body: Karana sharira, the inmost body; the soul form, also called anandamaya kosha, "bliss sheath," and actinic causal body. See: kosha, soul.causal mind: Karana chitta. Superconscious mind. See: mind (five states).causal plane: The highest realm of existence, Sivaloka. See: loka.cause: Karana. Anything which produces an effect, a result. -- efficient cause: (nimitta karana) That which directly produces the effect; that which conceives, makes, shapes, etc., such as the potter who fashions a clay pot, or God who creates the world. -- material cause: (upadana karana) The matter from which the effect is formed, as the clay which is shaped into a pot, or God as primal substance becoming the world.-- instrumental cause: (sahakari karana) That which serves as a means, mechanism or tool in producing the effect, such as the potter's wheel, necessary for making a pot, or God's generative Shakti. See: maya, tattva. astral plane: The subtle world, or Antarloka, spanning the spectrum of consciousness from the vishuddha chakra in the throat to the patala chakra in the soles of the feet. The astral plane includes: 1) the higher astral plane, Maharloka, "plane of balance;" 2) mid-astral plane, Svarloka, "celestial plane;" 3) lower astral plane, Bhuvarloka, "plane of atmosphere," a counterpart or subtle duplicate of the physical plane (consisting of the Pitriloka and Pretaloka); and 4) the sub-astral plane, Naraka, consisting of seven hellish realms corresponding to the seven chakras below the base of the spine. In the astral plane, the soul is enshrouded in the astral body, called sukshma sharira.. See: Antarloka, astral body, loka, Naraka, three worlds.subtle body: Sukshma sharira, the nonphysical, astral body or vehicle in which the soul encases itself to function in the Antarloka, or subtle world. The subtle body includes the pranamaya, manomaya and vijnana-maya koshas if the soul is physically embodied. It consists of only manomaya and vijnanamaya after death, when pranamaya kosha disintegrates. And it consists of only vijnanamaya kosha when manomaya kosha is dropped off just before rebirth or when higher evolutionary planes are entered. Also part of the subtle body are the antahkarana (mental faculty: intellect, instinct and ego -- buddhi, manas and ahamkara), the five jnanendriyas (agents of perception: hearing, touch, sight, taste and smell); and the five karmendriyas (agents of action: speech, grasping, movement, excretionand generation). See: jiva, kosha.http://himalayanaca demy.com/ resources/ books/mws/ mws_table_ of_contents. htmlVeeraswamy Krishnaraj Looking for local information? Find it on Local 1 of 1 Photo(s) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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