Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji.

July 24, 2009

Radhe Krishna To all,Valluvar says, Death is akin to sleep and birth is akin to waking up. Sleep is for a night and death is a long sleep in another world for some 10/20 years. The 'sukshma sariira' (subtle body that is the 'mind') rests for certain period in another world and takes a body/form, human or otherwise as per its doings in its past births. Thus, his qualities of earlier births do not change. The wicked does not turn into virtuous and vice versa. It is only in the waking state that we can work and not in sleep. We cannot study or work during the hour of sleep. It is only this time that we have taken birth, which is the waking state and the period of death is sleep state. Our intelligence lies in exerting effort, during this waking state, to liberate

ourselves from this 'samsara'. What is the effort that has to be exerted to liberate ourselves from this samsara? Every jiva takes innumerable births. In every birth he is only searching for a way to get out of this samsara.He wonders, 'How and what has to be done for this?' He searches for a True Guru for this. When do you attain a Sadguru? When Bhagavan decides a janma to be the very last one, the man attains a Sadguru. He might have gone to a guru before this. But, neither the guru nor the disciple would go to Moksha. So, he takes many more births. Even in our life we find that a man as an Engineer constructs a building. Continuing in his profession he finds that the building built after some 20 years is far better than those constructed earlier. This is because they had been constructed in his initial period of practice. For some consultation in any field we prefer to go to one who has 30 or 40 years of experience in that

field. This is because we know that such a man of experience knows best. Similarly, while beginning to search for a Guru, man does not know who is a Guru. He does not know about the qualities of a Guru. So, he does not go to a proper Guru. He passes through many associations (Sangha) before reaching the right one. He then learns to differentiate the genuine from fake. This takes lot of janmas. Only in his last janma, he comes to the True Guru. Who is a Guru? Is the one who reads your past and foretells your future a Guru? No! Certainly not. I have seen that in days past there have been astrologers who have possessed astounding capacity to foretell your future and read your past.May be these days such great ones are hard to be met with. They can tell that it is a 'salagraama' or a pen or a marble that is held within your closed palm. If you point out to a tree, they can mark the exact place where its shadow would fall at a

particular time of the day. They can make out that the horoscope shown to him is that of a calf! But, this does not make Guru of him. Having lots of followers also does not make Guru of a man. Some persons pose like a yogi for clicking photographs of him. Posing as a yogi does not make him a Guru. Wearing beard is not a sign of dispassion ('virakti'). How is a real Guru? A true Guru has no pomp and show. A true Guru bears no external sign. It is very difficult to know a real Guru. 'Well! You say that one should go to a Sadguru but it is difficult to spot him. Then, how can this come about?'When you see the one who has been decided by Bhagavaan to be your Guru in this janma, automatically a deep feeling will rise up in you. Without your knowledge an intense feeling of affection for him rises up. This feeling is indescribable. There may be many Mahatmas living at the same time. But, this sort of intense feeling of

attraction does not arise on seeing all of them. This is because they are not the ones willed by Bhagavaan to be our Guru. Only on seeing the one who has been ordained by Bhagavaan to be our Guru, a 'pravaaham' (gush of love), 'premai' (Love), 'anbu' (affection), 'inumpuriyaada kaadal' (incomprehinble feeling of love), fills up our hearts. We feel deeply attracted to the Guru. We wonder, "Wonâ€™t I see him? Won't I speak to him? Won't I be able to follow Him everywhere?" It is such feelings that show the permanent relationship between him and the Guru. !!! Will Continue !!!RegardsHare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare ----------------------- If you have any questions or doubts concerning Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or about dharma, please write to us by clicking here:http://www.namadwaar.org/answers/askquestion.php His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers these questions for you and suggests prayers. ---------------------------

July 25, 2009

Dear Sir,

Soul or Atma after leaving the physical body does a lot of things in a different world, the development and progression keeps happening, There is considerable spiritual evidence to this.

It is not like the Jeevatma goes to deep sleep (and wakes up as up as a new humanbeing or an animal).

Om Namah Shivaya,

God Bless,

Divakar--- On Thu, 7/23/09, Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_g wrote:

Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_g Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji. Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 8:52 PM

Radhe Krishna To all,Valluvar says, Death is akin to sleep and birth is akin to waking up. Sleep is for a night and death is a long sleep in another world for some 10/20 years. The 'sukshma sariira' (subtle body that is the 'mind') rests for certain period in another world and takes a body/form, human or otherwise as per its doings in its past births. Thus, his qualities of earlier births do not change. The wicked does not turn into virtuous and vice versa. It is only in the waking state that we can work and not in sleep. We cannot study or work during the hour of sleep. It is only this time that we have taken birth, which is the waking state and the period of death is sleep state. Our intelligence lies in exerting effort, during this waking state, to liberate ourselves from this 'samsara'. What is the effort that has to be exerted to liberate

ourselves from this samsara? Every jiva takes innumerable births. In every birth he is only searching for a way to get out of this samsara.He wonders, 'How and what has to be done for this?' He searches for a True Guru for this. When do you attain a Sadguru? When Bhagavan decides a janma to be the very last one, the man attains a Sadguru. He might have gone to a guru before this. But, neither the guru nor the disciple would go to Moksha. So, he takes many more births. Even in our life we find that a man as an Engineer constructs a building. Continuing in his profession he finds that the building built after some 20 years is far better than those constructed earlier. This is because they had been constructed in his initial period of practice. For some consultation in any field we prefer to go to one who has 30 or 40 years of experience in that field. This is because we know that such a man of experience knows best. Similarly, while

beginning to search for a Guru, man does not know who is a Guru. He does not know about the qualities of a Guru. So, he does not go to a proper Guru. He passes through many associations (Sangha) before reaching the right one. He then learns to differentiate the genuine from fake. This takes lot of janmas. Only in his last janma, he comes to the True Guru. Who is a Guru? Is the one who reads your past and foretells your future a Guru? No! Certainly not. I have seen that in days past there have been astrologers who have possessed astounding capacity to foretell your future and read your past.May be these days such great ones are hard to be met with. They can tell that it is a 'salagraama' or a pen or a marble that is held within your closed palm. If you point out to a tree, they can mark the exact place where its shadow would fall at a particular time of the day. They can make out that the horoscope shown to him is that of a calf!

But, this does not make Guru of him. Having lots of followers also does not make Guru of a man. Some persons pose like a yogi for clicking photographs of him. Posing as a yogi does not make him a Guru. Wearing beard is not a sign of dispassion ('virakti'). How is a real Guru? A true Guru has no pomp and show. A true Guru bears no external sign. It is very difficult to know a real Guru. 'Well! You say that one should go to a Sadguru but it is difficult to spot him. Then, how can this come about?'When you see the one who has been decided by Bhagavaan to be your Guru in this janma, automatically a deep feeling will rise up in you. Without your knowledge an intense feeling of affection for him rises up. This feeling is indescribable. There may be many Mahatmas living at the same time. But, this sort of intense feeling of attraction does not arise on seeing all of them. This is because they are not the ones willed by Bhagavaan

to be our Guru. Only on seeing the one who has been ordained by Bhagavaan to be our Guru, a 'pravaaham' (gush of love), 'premai' (Love), 'anbu' (affection), 'inumpuriyaada kaadal' (incomprehinble feeling of love), fills up our hearts. We feel deeply attracted to the Guru. We wonder, "Wonâ€™t I see him? Won't I speak to him? Won't I be able to follow Him everywhere?" It is such feelings that show the permanent relationship between him and the Guru. !!! Will Continue !!!RegardsHare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- If you have any questions or doubts concerning Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or about dharma, please write to us by clicking here:http://www.namadwaa r.org/answers/

askquestion. php His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers these questions for you and suggests prayers. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---

July 26, 2009

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan wrote:

Dear Sir,

Soul or Atma after leaving the physical body does a lot of things in a different world, the development and progression keeps happening, There is considerable spiritual evidence to this.

It is not like the Jeevatma goes to deep sleep (and wakes up as up as a new humanbeing or an animal).

Om Namah Shivaya,

God Bless,

Divakar

I was wondering if you would elaborate on this subject for us, Divakar? It would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance,

Sad Gurunath Maharah Ki Jay

joanelyia

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July 26, 2009

PLEASE, continue to enlighten so many readers like me with your knowledge on this special concept. Now, I am beginning to realize how very ignorant we so called literate people are.

I would like to thank ALL the AWARE GURUS who are in a very subtle way illuminating our lives.

With sincere reagrds,mridul--- On Sun, 7/26/09, Joan Miller <joanelyia wrote:

Joan Miller <joanelyiaRe: Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji. Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 7:43 AM

--- On Sat, 7/25/09, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote:

Dear Sir,

Soul or Atma after leaving the physical body does a lot of things in a different world, the development and progression keeps happening, There is considerable spiritual evidence to this.

It is not like the Jeevatma goes to deep sleep (and wakes up as up as a new humanbeing or an animal).

Om Namah Shivaya,

God Bless,

Divakar

I was wondering if you would elaborate on this subject for us, Divakar? It would be much appreciated. Thank you in advance,

Sad Gurunath Maharah Ki Jay

joanelyia

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July 26, 2009

Dear Sir,Can you elaborate your reply and let the members know as to what all the Soul or Atma does in different worlds for which you say there is considerable evidence? Thanks.G.BalasubramanianDivakara Tanjore <div_tan Sent: Saturday, July 25,

2009 2:58:58 PMRe: Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji.

Dear Sir,

Soul or Atma after leaving the physical body does a lot of things in a different world, the development and progression keeps happening, There is considerable spiritual evidence to this.

It is not like the Jeevatma goes to deep sleep (and wakes up as up as a new humanbeing or an animal).

Om Namah Shivaya,

God Bless,

Divakar--- On Thu, 7/23/09, Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_ g wrote:

Ravishankar Gopal <ravishankar_ g[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji.om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comThursday, July 23, 2009, 8:52 PM

Radhe Krishna To all,Valluvar says, Death is akin to sleep and birth is akin to waking up. Sleep is for a night and death is a long sleep in another world for some 10/20 years. The 'sukshma sariira' (subtle body that is the 'mind') rests for certain period in another world and takes a body/form, human or otherwise as per its doings in its past births. Thus, his qualities of earlier births do not change. The wicked does not turn into virtuous and vice versa. It is only in the waking state that we can work and not in sleep. We cannot study or work during the hour of sleep. It is only this time that we have taken birth, which is the waking state and the period of death is sleep state. Our intelligence lies in exerting effort, during this waking state, to liberate ourselves from this 'samsara'. What is the effort that has to be exerted to liberate

ourselves from this samsara? Every jiva takes innumerable births. In every birth he is only searching for a way to get out of this samsara.He wonders, 'How and what has to be done for this?' He searches for a True Guru for this. When do you attain a Sadguru? When Bhagavan decides a janma to be the very last one, the man attains a Sadguru. He might have gone to a guru before this. But, neither the guru nor the disciple would go to Moksha. So, he takes many more births. Even in our life we find that a man as an Engineer constructs a building. Continuing in his profession he finds that the building built after some 20 years is far better than those constructed earlier. This is because they had been constructed in his initial period of practice. For some consultation in any field we prefer to go to one who has 30 or 40 years of experience in that field. This is because we know that such a man of experience knows best. Similarly, while

beginning to search for a Guru, man does not know who is a Guru. He does not know about the qualities of a Guru. So, he does not go to a proper Guru. He passes through many associations (Sangha) before reaching the right one. He then learns to differentiate the genuine from fake. This takes lot of janmas. Only in his last janma, he comes to the True Guru. Who is a Guru? Is the one who reads your past and foretells your future a Guru? No! Certainly not. I have seen that in days past there have been astrologers who have possessed astounding capacity to foretell your future and read your past.May be these days such great ones are hard to be met with. They can tell that it is a 'salagraama' or a pen or a marble that is held within your closed palm. If you point out to a tree, they can mark the exact place where its shadow would fall at a particular time of the day. They can make out that the horoscope shown to him is that of a calf!

But, this does not make Guru of him. Having lots of followers also does not make Guru of a man. Some persons pose like a yogi for clicking photographs of him. Posing as a yogi does not make him a Guru. Wearing beard is not a sign of dispassion ('virakti'). How is a real Guru? A true Guru has no pomp and show. A true Guru bears no external sign. It is very difficult to know a real Guru. 'Well! You say that one should go to a Sadguru but it is difficult to spot him. Then, how can this come about?'When you see the one who has been decided by Bhagavaan to be your Guru in this janma, automatically a deep feeling will rise up in you. Without your knowledge an intense feeling of affection for him rises up. This feeling is indescribable. There may be many Mahatmas living at the same time. But, this sort of intense feeling of attraction does not arise on seeing all of them. This is because they are not the ones willed by Bhagavaan

to be our Guru. Only on seeing the one who has been ordained by Bhagavaan to be our Guru, a 'pravaaham' (gush of love), 'premai' (Love), 'anbu' (affection), 'inumpuriyaada kaadal' (incomprehinble feeling of love), fills up our hearts. We feel deeply attracted to the Guru. We wonder, "Wonâ€™t I see him? Won't I speak to him? Won't I be able to follow Him everywhere?" It is such feelings that show the permanent relationship between him and the Guru. !!! Will Continue !!!RegardsHare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- -------- If you have any questions or doubts concerning Spirituality, Mental peace or problems in life or about dharma, please write to us by clicking here:http://www.namadwaa

r.org/answers/

askquestion. php His Holiness Sri Sri Swamiji personally answers these questions for you and suggests prayers. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ---

July 27, 2009

physical world has an astral world attached to it, and each astral world will have multiple planes or planets of existance, departed souls move to one of these planes based on their spiritual maturity and consciousness level and continue their development. Above Astral world there is causal world and higher worlds where the Absolute or the highest consciousness dwells.

Karmically bound souls have a pre-determined time in the astral world and they re-incarnate to this world to continue their learning process, evolved souls can have more or unlimited time in astral plane. Souls do not sleep in this plane they continue their existance and spiritual development.

Highly evolved souls or jeevan muktas need not come to physical plane, they can move to much higher planes but still they have to continue their spiritual progress to merge with God. Sometimes their compassion brings them back to the physical world to guide and help low level souls, they also help other souls when they are in the Astral or Causal planes.

Souls come to earth in groups to burn their karma, so deeper attachments bring souls to-gether to the earth plane and also to other planes.

Spiritual proof,

A discussion of the re-incarnation, astral world and the still subtler causal or ideational world of thought may be found in Chapter 43 of Swami Pramahansa Yogananda's "Autobiography of a Yogi"

Paramahansa Yogananda's book "Where are our Departed loved Ones" explains the concept and also technique to communicate with the departed loved ones, but we have to be very careful and we have to only communicate for expressing our unconditional love, to express our regrets and for closure.

Swami Sivanada also described about this concept and here is the link to this

http://www.dlshq.org/download/afterdeath.htm#_VPID_29

In the west Dr.Weiss a dean and practising psychologist found a technique called Regression Therapy which can be used to study a persons past lives and also he wrote the world famous book "Many Souls Many Masters", this book explains the progression of Souls, role of Ascended Masters like Jesus, Swami Yogananda, etc.

We can undestand this through meditation and contemplation, Swami Yogananda's teachings in this subject is very enlightening, it clears our misgivngs and opens us up to higher consciousness or unconditional love and compassion.

God Bless you all,

Om Namah Shivaya.

Divakar. --- On Sun, 7/26/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote:

G Balasubramanian <gbsubRe: Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji. Date: Sunday, July 26, 2009, 1:24 PM

Dear Sir,Can you elaborate your reply and let the members know as to what all the Soul or Atma does in different worlds for which you say there is considerable evidence? Thanks.G.Balasubramanian

Divakara Tanjore <div_tan >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, July 25, 2009 2:58:58 PMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Guru Tattva (Philosophy) - Part 2 By Sri.Sri.Muralidhara Swamiji.