Guest guest Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Hari OMMy humble submission in this regard is that performing RudraAbishekam/ Homam or for that matter any optional ritual at home is not an obligatory duty on any Hindu as much as taking care of one`s family, particularly one`s parents at their old age.The Scriptures talk about Vihita karmas(prescribed duties), Nishiddha karmas( prohibited actions) and Kamya karmas( Optional actions or Activities/rituals to be performed for getting desires fulfilled or for pleasing the lower devi/devatas(deities) for attaining quick results etc.) While non-performance of Vihita karmas and performance of Nishiddha karmas results in incurring of sins and invitation of curses etc. etc., non-performance of Kamya Karmas will not attract sins and curses.A Vedic Pandit who knows the appropriate/relevent Mantas and details of respective rituals as prescribed in Sastras is better equipped to handle rituals than any one of us who are not so equipped. Half-baked rituals when conducted at home are likely create harmful results. Siddhis are not accepted by Sastras as a prescribed mode of Upasana. They have their limitations. A few years back, in the course of a friendly chat, I just mentioned that it would rain that day. It rained that day heavily although the weather reports have indicated it as a 'Sunny day'. Having heard about this from my friend, strangers started calling on me, thinking that I had some mysterious powers. I would say that it was purely a coincidence. Similar thing happened when doctors had given up a patient when I happened to be present in the hospital. Something occurred to me that the patient will survive. I mentioned about this to the relatives of the patient and left the hospital as I had to go to an outstation. On my return, I was informed by my wife that the patient has been discharged and brought home. The relatives of the patients embarassed me with thanks and expression of gratitude etc. I am fully convinced that I had no role to play in the survival of the patient. On another occasion when a friend of mine met with a road accident when he had gone on work to an outstation, I could do nothing to prevent the accident even though I was the person who went to see him off at the railstation. If I had any Siddhi,why could I not advise my friend not to leave that day?If I am calling myself as not proud, how can I say I know much more than a Purohit? At any point of time we are no match for fuly-trained, competent and experienced Purohits. If Purohit is not available at a place, you can resort to Japam, meditation etc. But Rudrabishekaham or Rudra Homam should not be done without eqipping yourself thoroughly with mantras and procedure apart from appropriate samagri etc. You can, no doubt, take the name of the Lord or read the Puranas etc. but do not attempt to chant Vedic mantras unless you have been properly initiated by a competent Vedic Pundit.G.Balasubramanian"aac6993" <aac6993 Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:19:22 PMRe: (unknown) I earlier mentioned that where such Prohit or any other learnate person is not available than Shastir says that one can take permission from Devta/Devi for which Mantra belong. So I am at a place there is no any such person I am not a proud person but I have to say that I have much knowledge than a prohit so I do with request to Shiva for permission and I get some indication than I start chanting Mantras and I observed that I have rewrded with sidhis on many. Best Regards Assaram--- On Sat, 7/11/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown)om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, July 11, 2009, 2:02 PM Chanting of Mantra given by a Guru and chanting of Veda Mantras are not one and the same. Guru Mantras are short and can be repeated any number of times. But Vedic mantras are long and need extraordinary effort to Memorize at young age with instructions from a Vedic Guru in a Veda Patasala. Rudrabishekam involves a prescribed procedure and Mantras. Pl. do not venture unless you are well-versed. It is not like pouring milk or water on a wayside Shivalinga in a minute. Rudrabishekham will take minimum one hour if done as prescribed.. You can not do it unless you are experienced and you know not only the Mantras but the procedure also. Take the help of a competent Purohit and pay him suitable Dakshina.G.Balasubramanian Assaram Alamchandani <aac6993 >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, July 11, 2009 8:55:47 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) All Shiv Bhakt, There are some rules set in Shastra about chanting Mantras etc,I put one question but that discussion is not sent may be group management not found it suitable. All rules are set for hinduism only? It is said in Shastras that different rules are set for each yuga this kalyug so only 1/4th of the rules and chanting no can reward you.It is refered in Shiv Puran. I started chanting all at home and honestly with out any doubt I all left for and devoted to Shiva and Shakti.I am getting good Reward all the time. Very late I got Mantra for " Rudrakhsh" Before Chanting pray like this for Rudarakhsh" "Sat Namo adesh,Guruji ko adesh.om guruji. Mukhy Barhma, Madhya Vishnu Ling Naam Meheshwara, Sarvo deva Namaskram,Rudarakhs hye Namo Namah" After thsi you can chant Mantra by Rudarakhsh Mala. Dont go for any doubt but keep your full faith the Devta/Devi you are chanting for. Best regards Assaram--- On Fri, 7/10/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown)om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, July 10, 2009, 2:39 PM Pl. do not perform Rudra Homa yourself without engaging the services of a competent priest who is well-versed in that ritual, You neither know the Mantras nor the procedure. Chanting of Vedic Mantras is not anybody`s game.G.Balasubramanian Bhupendra Jamnadas <b_jamnadas (AT) (DOT) ca>Om Namaha Shivaya Group <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Friday, July 10, 2009 11:50:12 AM[om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) Dear Members, I am interested in peforming Rudra Homa. I am not certain though there during the chant of Namakam and Chamakam, at which points are ahuti to agni given. I am guessing that each ahuti wouold have to be followed by a svahaa, but correct me if I am wrong. I have a copy of Sri Rudram, Namakam and Chamakam, but I cannot identify where I would be able to say svaha. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bhupendra. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 The life is limited and the cause of Death is also decided Day time place all is written when any one take birth and that is nothing to do with Sidhi. Chanting Mantra achieve Sidhi are very different and to apply sidhi on a dying person will never survive it. Sidhi gathered person can simply allow another person for chanting Mantra which we in other words Say Guru.Hom is different that too can't save any one's life? Prohit permission don't help any dying person. One Sawami Lilashah was very high grade Saint his Samadhi is in "Adipur" Kutchh Bhuj Gujrat India,one of his follower went to him which was suffering from cancer and requested for vanishing the desease and have more life bcoz of cancer he was to die within couple of months the Saint replied that my life is left three years which I can donate to you by ending my life and you will survive 3 years more which he accepted and Saint left the world immediately and his follower was alive for 3 years more this was all bcoz of sidhi.I don't claim that I can do so but bcoz of gathered sidhi I am sure that I can chant that particular Mantra for any one's benefit which will be rewarded if the person is demanding for good reason. Best Regards Assaram--- On Mon, 7/13/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub RUDRABISHEKHAM Cc: USBrahmins , Aryakrishti-Vedic-Dharma , "Bhagavataseva Bagavataseva" <BhagavataSeva >Monday, July 13, 2009, 1:12 PM Hari OMMy humble submission in this regard is that performing RudraAbishekam/ Homam or for that matter any optional ritual at home is not an obligatory duty on any Hindu as much as taking care of one`s family, particularly one`s parents at their old age.The Scriptures talk about Vihita karmas(prescribed duties), Nishiddha karmas( prohibited actions) and Kamya karmas( Optional actions or Activities/rituals to be performed for getting desires fulfilled or for pleasing the lower devi/devatas( deities) for attaining quick results etc.) While non-performance of Vihita karmas and performance of Nishiddha karmas results in incurring of sins and invitation of curses etc. etc., non-performance of Kamya Karmas will not attract sins and curses.A Vedic Pandit who knows the appropriate/ relevent Mantas and details of respective rituals as prescribed in Sastras is better equipped to handle rituals than any one of us who are not so equipped. Half-baked rituals when conducted at home are likely create harmful results. Siddhis are not accepted by Sastras as a prescribed mode of Upasana. They have their limitations. A few years back, in the course of a friendly chat, I just mentioned that it would rain that day. It rained that day heavily although the weather reports have indicated it as a 'Sunny day'. Having heard about this from my friend, strangers started calling on me, thinking that I had some mysterious powers. I would say that it was purely a coincidence. Similar thing happened when doctors had given up a patient when I happened to be present in the hospital. Something occurred to me that the patient will survive. I mentioned about this to the relatives of the patient and left the hospital as I had to go to an outstation. On my return, I was informed by my wife that the patient has been discharged and brought home. The relatives of the patients embarassed me with thanks and expression of gratitude etc. I am fully convinced that I had no role to play in the survival of the patient. On another occasion when a friend of mine met with a road accident when he had gone on work to an outstation, I could do nothing to prevent the accident even though I was the person who went to see him off at the railstation. If I had any Siddhi,why could I not advise my friend not to leave that day?If I am calling myself as not proud, how can I say I know much more than a Purohit? At any point of time we are no match for fuly-trained, competent and experienced Purohits. If Purohit is not available at a place, you can resort to Japam, meditation etc. But Rudrabishekaham or Rudra Homam should not be done without eqipping yourself thoroughly with mantras and procedure apart from appropriate samagri etc. You can, no doubt, take the name of the Lord or read the Puranas etc. but do not attempt to chant Vedic mantras unless you have been properly initiated by a competent Vedic Pundit.G.Balasubramanian "aac6993 " <aac6993 >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comMonday, July 13, 2009 1:19:22 PMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) I earlier mentioned that where such Prohit or any other learnate person is not available than Shastir says that one can take permission from Devta/Devi for which Mantra belong. So I am at a place there is no any such person I am not a proud person but I have to say that I have much knowledge than a prohit so I do with request to Shiva for permission and I get some indication than I start chanting Mantras and I observed that I have rewrded with sidhis on many. Best Regards Assaram--- On Sat, 7/11/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown)om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, July 11, 2009, 2:02 PM Chanting of Mantra given by a Guru and chanting of Veda Mantras are not one and the same. Guru Mantras are short and can be repeated any number of times. But Vedic mantras are long and need extraordinary effort to Memorize at young age with instructions from a Vedic Guru in a Veda Patasala. Rudrabishekam involves a prescribed procedure and Mantras. Pl. do not venture unless you are well-versed. It is not like pouring milk or water on a wayside Shivalinga in a minute. Rudrabishekham will take minimum one hour if done as prescribed.. You can not do it unless you are experienced and you know not only the Mantras but the procedure also. Take the help of a competent Purohit and pay him suitable Dakshina.G.Balasubramanian Assaram Alamchandani <aac6993 >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSaturday, July 11, 2009 8:55:47 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) All Shiv Bhakt, There are some rules set in Shastra about chanting Mantras etc,I put one question but that discussion is not sent may be group management not found it suitable. All rules are set for hinduism only? It is said in Shastras that different rules are set for each yuga this kalyug so only 1/4th of the rules and chanting no can reward you.It is refered in Shiv Puran. I started chanting all at home and honestly with out any doubt I all left for and devoted to Shiva and Shakti.I am getting good Reward all the time. Very late I got Mantra for " Rudrakhsh" Before Chanting pray like this for Rudarakhsh" "Sat Namo adesh,Guruji ko adesh.om guruji. Mukhy Barhma, Madhya Vishnu Ling Naam Meheshwara, Sarvo deva Namaskram,Rudarakhs hye Namo Namah" After thsi you can chant Mantra by Rudarakhsh Mala. Dont go for any doubt but keep your full faith the Devta/Devi you are chanting for. Best regards Assaram--- On Fri, 7/10/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote: G Balasubramanian <gbsub >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown)om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, July 10, 2009, 2:39 PM Pl. do not perform Rudra Homa yourself without engaging the services of a competent priest who is well-versed in that ritual, You neither know the Mantras nor the procedure. Chanting of Vedic Mantras is not anybody`s game.G.Balasubramanian Bhupendra Jamnadas <b_jamnadas (AT) (DOT) ca>Om Namaha Shivaya Group <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Friday, July 10, 2009 11:50:12 AM[om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) Dear Members, I am interested in peforming Rudra Homa. I am not certain though there during the chant of Namakam and Chamakam, at which points are ahuti to agni given. I am guessing that each ahuti wouold have to be followed by a svahaa, but correct me if I am wrong. I have a copy of Sri Rudram, Namakam and Chamakam, but I cannot identify where I would be able to say svaha. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bhupendra. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 i am very much interested in obtaing that copy of the Rudrabhishekam as u say mr bhupendra. can u foward a copy to me plz? , G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote: > > Hari OM > My humble submission in this regard is that performing RudraAbishekam/ Homam or for that matter any optional ritual at home is not an obligatory duty on any Hindu as much as taking care of one`s family, particularly one`s parents at their old age.The Scriptures talk about Vihita karmas(prescribed duties), Nishiddha karmas( prohibited actions) and Kamya karmas( Optional actions or Activities/rituals to be performed for getting desires fulfilled or for pleasing the lower devi/devatas(deities) for attaining quick results etc.) While non-performance of Vihita karmas and performance of Nishiddha karmas results in incurring of sins and invitation of curses etc. etc., non-performance of Kamya Karmas will not attract sins and curses. > > A Vedic Pandit who knows the appropriate/relevent Mantas and details of respective rituals as prescribed in Sastras is better equipped to handle rituals than any one of us who are not so equipped. Half-baked rituals when conducted at home are likely create harmful results. Siddhis are not accepted by Sastras as a prescribed mode of Upasana. They have their limitations. A few years back, in the course of a friendly chat, I just mentioned that it would rain that day. It rained that day heavily although the weather reports have indicated it as a 'Sunny day'. Having heard about this from my friend, strangers started calling on me, thinking that I had some mysterious powers. I would say that it was purely a coincidence. Similar thing happened when doctors had given up a patient when I happened to be present in the hospital. Something occurred to me that the patient will survive. I mentioned about this to the relatives of the patient and > left the hospital as I had to go to an outstation. On my return, I was informed by my wife that the patient has been discharged and brought home. The relatives of the patients embarassed me with thanks and expression of gratitude etc. I am fully convinced that I had no role to play in the survival of the patient. On another occasion when a friend of mine met with a road accident when he had gone on work to an outstation, I could do nothing to prevent the accident even though I was the person who went to see him off at the railstation. If I had any Siddhi,why could I not advise my friend not to leave that day? > If I am calling myself as not proud, how can I say I know much more than a Purohit? At any point of time we are no match for fuly-trained, competent and experienced Purohits. If Purohit is not available at a place, you can resort to Japam, meditation etc. But Rudrabishekaham or Rudra Homam should not be done without eqipping yourself thoroughly with mantras and procedure apart from appropriate samagri etc. You can, no doubt, take the name of the Lord or read the Puranas etc. but do not attempt to chant Vedic mantras unless you have been properly initiated by a competent Vedic Pundit. > G.Balasubramanian > > > > > ________________________________ > " aac6993 " aac6993 > > Monday, July 13, 2009 1:19:22 PM > Re: (unknown) > > > > > > I earlier mentioned that where such Prohit or any other learnate person is not available than Shastir says that one can take permission from Devta/Devi for which Mantra belong. > So I am at a place there is no any such person I am not a proud person but I have to say that I have much knowledge than a prohit so I do with request to Shiva for permission and I get some indication than I start chanting Mantras and I observed that I have rewrded with sidhis on many. > Best Regards > Assaram > > --- On Sat, 7/11/09, G Balasubramanian gbsub > wrote: > > > >G Balasubramanian gbsub > > >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) > >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > >Saturday, July 11, 2009, 2:02 PM > > > > > > Chanting of Mantra given by a Guru and chanting of Veda Mantras are not one and the same. Guru Mantras are short and can be repeated any number of times. But Vedic mantras are long and need extraordinary effort to Memorize at young age with instructions from a Vedic Guru in a Veda Patasala. Rudrabishekam involves a prescribed procedure and Mantras. Pl. do not venture unless you are well-versed. It is not like pouring milk or water on a wayside Shivalinga in a minute. Rudrabishekham will take minimum one hour if done as prescribed.. You can not do it unless you are experienced and you know not only the Mantras but the procedure also. Take the help of a competent Purohit and pay him suitable Dakshina. > >G.Balasubramanian > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Assaram Alamchandani aac6993 > > >om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > >Saturday, July 11, 2009 8:55:47 AM > >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) > > > > > >All Shiv Bhakt, > > > >There are some rules set in Shastra about chanting Mantras etc,I put one question but that discussion is not sent may be group management not found it suitable. > >All rules are set for hinduism only? > >It is said in Shastras that different rules are set for each yuga this kalyug so only 1/4th of the rules and chanting no can reward you.It is refered in Shiv Puran. > >I started chanting all at home and honestly with out any doubt I all left for and devoted to Shiva and Shakti.I am getting good Reward all the time. > >Very late I got Mantra for " Rudrakhsh " > > Before Chanting pray like this for Rudarakhsh " > > > > " Sat Namo adesh,Guruji ko adesh.om guruji. > >Mukhy Barhma, Madhya Vishnu Ling Naam Meheshwara, > >Sarvo deva Namaskram,Rudarakhs hye Namo Namah " > > > >After thsi you can chant Mantra by Rudarakhsh Mala. > > > >Dont go for any doubt but keep your full faith the Devta/Devi you are chanting for. > >Best regards > >Assaram > > > >--- On Fri, 7/10/09, G Balasubramanian gbsub > wrote: > > > > > >>G Balasubramanian gbsub > > >>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) > >>om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > >>Friday, July 10, 2009, 2:39 PM > >> > >> > >>Pl. do not perform Rudra Homa yourself without engaging the services of a competent priest who is well-versed in that ritual, You neither know the Mantras nor the procedure. Chanting of Vedic Mantras is not anybody`s game. > >>G.Balasubramanian > >> > >> > >> > >> > ________________________________ > Bhupendra Jamnadas b_jamnadas (AT) (DOT) ca> > >>Om Namaha Shivaya Group <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> > >>Friday, July 10, 2009 11:50:12 AM > >>[om_namah_shivaya_ group] (unknown) > >> > >> > >>Dear Members, > >> > >>I am interested in peforming Rudra Homa. I am not certain though there during the chant of Namakam and Chamakam, at which points are ahuti to agni given. I am guessing that each ahuti wouold have to be followed by a svahaa, but correct me if I am wrong. I have a copy of Sri Rudram, Namakam and Chamakam, but I cannot identify where I would be able to say svaha. > >> > >>Any help would be appreciated. > >> > >>Thanks, > >>Bhupendra. > >>________________________________ > >>Be smarter than spam. 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