[om_namahshivaya_group] SOME THOUGHTS ON IMMORTALITY AND DEATH--1

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Dear Brother Garga,Hari Om,I would like to sumit as follows:-1. Atma does not take rebirth. It is the jiva (conditioned soul) that takes rebirth. The Scriptures declare that Atma is birthless and deathless(Ajah,Anadi, Sasvatam, naantah aksharah, ajaatah etc. etc.)2. Body perishes and goes back to the 5 elements(Pancha boothas).3 .Nobody will remember my name " for years and years" outside my limited circle after death unless I have done something really great or really bad or harmful for the World, Country, State,humanity, people etc. etc. Names like Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussain, Nathuram

Godse etc. etc. fall under the later category. Names like Abraham Lincon, Mahatma Gandhi, Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, Ramana Maharishi etc. etc. fall under the former category. None can afford to forget them. Names of those who do not fall under these two categories,such as yours and mine, will be forgotten in no time. Even if one lakh people shout"Amar Rahe' at the time of our deaths, they will soon forget our names.G.Balasubramanianmg garga <mggarga Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2009 5:39:49 AMRe: SOME THOUGHTS ON IMMORTALITY AND DEATH--1

 

HariOm

Hare I feel that three things are involved

1]Atma-it never die & changes clothes by taking rebirth.

2]Body-it die burnsor it is notvisible in that form

3]Name-now only name remains, & that what I feel they shout ......Amar rahe ie this name remain alive & it remains for years & years.

mggarga--- On Sat, 6/27/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote:

G Balasubramanian <gbsub >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] SOME THOUGHTS ON IMMORTALITY AND DEATH--1om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: USBrahmins@gro ups.com, Aryakrishti- Vedic-Dharma, "Bhagavataseva Bagavataseva" <BhagavataSeva>Saturday, June 27, 2009, 6:32 AM

 

 

Dear Friends, HARI OM Right from my childhood I have been observing that when some politically prominent person dies there used to be running commentary over All India Radio of the proceedings of the last journey of the body of that person. Much later came the video coverages and broadcasts over the Television. In all these scenes I have been hearing (or seeing) the accompanying people shouting, for example, "Mahatma Gandhi Amar Rahe", "Jawaharlal Nehru Amar Rahe", Indhra Gandhi Amar Rahe" etc. after the respective political leader breathed his or her last. I also used to notice certain insertions in Newspaper under the title,'Obituary' or "In Memoriam" columns where certain expressions such as 'May his soul rest in peace' used to appear. At that time I was too young to understand the meaning , significance and appropriateness of such words. I concede even

to-day I have not understood the implications of such slogans or insertions. What is meant by 'Amar Rahe'? By shouting such a slogan what did the people at that time wanted to convey? ' Amar' in Hindi literally means 'undead', 'non-dying'etc. It also means 'immortal'. People wanted Mahatma Gandhi to remain immortal ie., one not subject to death after Mahatma Gandhi was assassinated and was declared dead! Now, what do we understnd by the words, 'mortal' and 'immortal"? These expressions are very important to understand. We talk about 'mortality rate' of a country. Apparently, mortality refers to death. Now, what is death? We see it happening daily. Can we say that somebody is dead at the moment one`s body stops beathing? We see people in coma and they still breathe. Can we consider them as dead? Again, we come across expressions like clinical death, brain

dead etc. etc. The phenomenon of birth and death is complicated and one needs to understand it calmly. We all know that death is a certainty, but in our heart of hearts we are not mentally prepared for it. We would not like to die. Let us admit. We pray to God for long life so that death is postponed to an unknown distant future. This may also be attributable to our unsatiable wants and desire to enjoy material comforts and pleasures for a longer time in this world. We hear people saying, " I would like to live until my great grand child gets married". Whatever may be the underlying reason for such prayers, the fact remains that none of us would welcome death willingly. (to be continued) G.Balasubramanian