mantras

[Guest guest]

Hi! Hari: Om! There is considerable difference between word denoting certain

name and in common words. As you told 'Ram', it has certain values, history,

mythology and spirituality. While chanting on 'Ram' our mind picturises a

definite character from Ramayana, His charistics, His nature, His morale, His

vows, His views, His behavious with other parts and all. Our mind desires to

imitate it as well as follow his advise. Some times mind takes shape of Rama

also. Whereas if you chant on 'peace', as its scope, nature, volume, dimentions,

composition, colour, nature, history etc. are all obscure and occult. One can

not personify peace. Our mind will be steady or concentrated on that word. Hence

for concentration, chanting sadhana Nama mantras are essential.

[Guest guest]

Both are true. Simple mantra like Ram-Ram or Hare Krishna are

devotional mantras and still the mind and one can go into samadhi,

but it may take long time, even many births

 

the real mantra having beeja mantras inside work directly on

kundalini and chakras and work fast, but they are dangerouos

 

so people prefer simple mantras

[Guest guest]

Dear devotees, We have dissected human body from head to foot. Saw every part

of it. Can someone enlighten me where these CHAKRAS are located. And where is

KUNDALINI ? If any Sadhana sends semen or anything up into brain through what

channel(we found no channel taking semen to brain)?

And where is KUNDALINI located in a female?

I am not joking or making fun of anyone . I am curious to know.

Does an " USKHALANA BRAHMACHAARI " really exist? Where?

A female equivalent of ASKHALANA BRAHMACHAARI is what ?Can I have her name?

I repeat I am not asking it for fun . I am very serious and curious.

yours appreciatingly

ijswamy

 

tantra_rag <no_reply > wrote:

Both are true. Simple mantra like Ram-Ram or Hare Krishna

[Guest guest]

, " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU "

<jiragavarapu wrote:

>

> Dear devotees, We have dissected human body from head to foot.

 

So by your logic you deny the presence of Soul too, because you can

not find soul also in the body?

 

Do you deny the love too ? If you open my brain, can you tell me whom

I love and how much I love ? BUT LOVE EXISTS AND YOU CAN NOT DENY

THAT TOO.

 

your logic is pure atheisitic logic

 

tantra

[Guest guest]

, " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU "

<jiragavarapu wrote:

>

 

> I repeat I am not asking it for fun . I am very serious and

curious.

> yours appreciatingly

> ijswamy

 

My dear ijswamy ji,

 

your points are logical and valid. But you are forgetting

one thing...you are asking to prove spirituality with the help of

medical science. It would be like challenging someone to prove

gravitational pull with the help of Economics.

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" We have dissected human body from head to foot. Saw every

part of it. Can someone enlighten me where these CHAKRAS are

located. And where is KUNDALINI ? "

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Kundalini and chakras are not physical organs which could be

seen in the physical body.

 

As per spiritual explanation we have many bodies beyond physical

body. A combination of these 4 bodies is called Astral body.

Kundalini and Chakras are part of those subtle bodies. Chakras are

vortexes of energies in the body, a distribution joint from where

energy is sent to different parts of body.

 

 

 

" And where is KUNDALINI located in a female? "

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Kundalini has same position in males and females.... as i said

Kundalini is not a physical organ but an energy point...the yogis

through meditation saw kundalini and chakras and gave a rough idea

as to which approximate point in the body has symmetary with them in

Astral bodies.

 

the kundalini's focal point in physical body is in Muladhara

chakra which is situated somewhere between anus and testis/vagina.

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> If any Sadhana sends semen or anything up into brain through what

channel(we found no channel taking semen to brain)?

>

 

> Does an " USKHALANA BRAHMACHAARI " really exist? Where?

> A female equivalent of ASKHALANA BRAHMACHAARI is what ?Can I

have her name?

 

Since the kundalini tantra is very subtle andmysterious

subject, rishis tried to explain it in simple words so that people

can understand it. No where kundalini Tantra says that semen is

taken up to brain.

 

some sadhus may be using this word as a symbolic word. The real

yoga is to activate the kundalini energy. This energy is taken up

through subtle channels up to each chakra and finally to mind and

Sahasradhara chakra.

 

The Kundanline when releases energy currents, the energy is

first used for Reproduction...because that z the sole purpose of

lower nature... to keep the species survived....hence a bigger

portion of Kundalini Energy is used in sex.

 

Kundalini Tantra says if this energy is not used in sex and taken

up... this energy, because it is the purest and strongest form of

energy....can be used for spiritual progress.

 

so taking this sexual energy up...is what is denoted by semen.

 

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I am writing a separate post on Kundalini for more

clarification....

 

i will wait for your " further dissection " of this.

 

with love and good wishes

[Guest guest]

Swamji, the Kundalni & chakras are located in the astral body-there

are 5 bodies(physical, pranic, manomaya, vigyan & anandaa). These

werent invented by crazy Tantrics, but are mentioned in the Vedas &

Upanishads.

 

These bodies arent so hard to see, esp the Pranmaya, which is the

aura, which many people can see. Little children often paint their

parents red/blue/green etc- parents dont understand why, but children

can see the aura, an ability they lose when they grow up & the logical

society makes fun of them...

 

Knowing about the subtle universe, its laws, is an integral part of

Hinduism.

 

TO answer your questions- the subtle world has its own laws-you cant

force the laws of physical universe on it! Dissecting, cutting up,

destroying are the ways of science, not spiriutality. To see the

Kundalni & chakras requires years, even lives spent in meditation,

going innerward, surrendering the ego.

 

And saying Kundalni is the sex energy is like saying President George

Bush is a White Male in USA. Kundalni is the power of conciousness, of

awareness, that lies dormant, & has to be awakened by meditation. It

is asleep in most people.

 

I will write more later....

[Guest guest]

Mantra Shastra is best explained by Tantra.

 

Each of the God, is actually a conciousness & an energy- a male &

female. But it is the Shakti that actually acts.

 

This Shakti, when seen in the Manomaya lok(Mental Universe made purely

of thoughts) is seen as a geometrical figure called a Yantra. In our

world, the same energy manifests as sound energy.

 

The mantra isnt the name of the God, nor is it random mumbo jumbo- the

Mantra is the God/Godess herself, whose energy has been condensed in

physical universe as sound.

 

While the concentration/Raj yoga theory is also true, the real reason

for mantras is that we call the energy of the Dev/Devi we are

worshipping down to Earth- which can then be used for any purpose,

including selfish ones(from where Tantra gets its bad reputation in

India).

 

By constantly repeating a Mantra, it starts modifying our astral body,

to make it more like the Dev we are worshipping. This means, at death,

we can merge into that Godhead, & get Mukti that way (or we can also

return to Earth to get full Moksha, & merge into the Infinite).

 

All Gods have a mantra- even ones we dont think would(like Jesus has

his own mantra, & if Christians used it, they could more easily get

his darshan than by prayer alone). Not only Devas, but Asura(demons),

Rakshas, Pret Pisacha(type of ghosts) also have their mantra. But you

call them at your own risk!

 

The Maha mantra, the big Daddy of all Mantras, is Om. This is the

Mantra of the Nirgun Brahm, also of Adi Shakti, & Agya Chakra. Om is

constantly repeating in the Universe, & Sadhaks can hear it if they

focus on heart(it might take years of practice though). Om is also one

of only mantras(other being Gayatri)that gives no Siddhi, only Moksha.

[Guest guest]

, radha_sharma_99 <no_reply wrote:

Hello Radha,

 

Namaste!

 

Yes it is true they give little or no effect - but you do not have

to be disappointed. Do the following. While chanting mantras keep

the spine straight and your hands in GYAN MUDRA which is simply done

by joining the tips of forefinger with that of thumb and keep other

3 fingers straight with palms facing upward. Now keep this hand on

your respective thighs and do mantra reciting. Further consuming

BRAHMI helps a lot. If you do not have access to it buy SHANKAPUSHPI

solution from any ayurvedic shop and take it twice a day. Once in the

morning and once at night. This should solve your problems. Avoiding

watching tv would go long way in keeping the mind focused. If none of

this works then do trataka about which there is no need to explain

now till you adhere to the above suggestion. Good luck and God bless.

 

 

 

With warm wishes

Sudhakar

HARI OM TAT SAT! Cheers! )

 

 

> Namaste,

>

> When chanting Mantras, my mind keeps getting distracted & wandering.

[Guest guest]

> Im told that if mantras aren't done with concentration, they give no

> effect. Is this true?

 

It is not strictly true. If mind had to be quiet before chanting of

Mantras, very few people except very advanced Raja Yogis wouldnt be

able to chant them(such Yogis wouldnt need Mantras anyway).

 

Mantras help calm the mind & make it Sattvic- but they do this very

slowly & over a long period of time. After some time of chanting(which

maybe months or years), the mind becomes calm & concentrated, & Mantra

then becomes very powerful.

 

But if you wait to reach this state before starting, then you will

give up dissapointed without every achieving anything.

 

So keep chanting diligently, sitting the the Asan/Mudras Sudhakar has

recommended. The mind takes time to become calm- it has had 1000s of

lives to become agitated, so it will take at least a few years, maybe

even few lives, to calm it.

 

love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

, radha_sharma_99 <no_reply wrote:

>

Im told that if mantras aren't done with concentration, they give no

> effect. Is this true?

>

 

Dear Radha

 

I wouldn't say they give no effect. Remember there is also great

benefit purely from the vibration of chanting the mantras. Focus,

concentration, understanding of the translation.... this is all very

beneficial... but even if all you have is the ability to chant, or be

around people who are chanting, you will soak up the healing

vibrations like a sponge & feel the benefits radiate your soul.

Remember when I told you my grandson chanted AUM at the age of one?

At such a young age he wasn't concentrating & certainly had no idea

of the meaning.....

 

Keep chanting Radha

 

With much love

 

Farah

[Guest guest]

Dear Radha Sharma, May Godguide you!

Mantra is a group of letters or syllables which have a clear meaning in

Sanskrit.Firstly we must understand the meaning.Then we must repeat the Mantra

sitting at a place. While reciting we must think of the sound and meaning of the

Mantra.

For example if we recite ASHTAAKHARI MANTHRA ie eight lettered OHM NAMO

NAARAAYANAAYA

We must think of

OHM=Incocation to any diety,

NA MO =Pranams to

NAA RAA YA NAA YA =The Lord who floats in water on a ficus leaf (vata pathra

shaayi)

This way we must recite and if thoughts disturb the process slowly come back

to Mantra.

If you recite any Manthra without concentrating on the meaning and mood of

worship, what is the difference between us and a tape recorder making some

noise?

VENERABLE MEMBERS PLEASE GIVE YOUR FEEDBACK

Thanks

ijswamy

 

 

radha_sharma_99 <no_reply > wrote:

Namaste,

 

When chanting Mantras, my mind keeps getting distracted & wandering.

[Guest guest]

, " J.SWAMY IRAGAVARAPU "

<jiragavarapu wrote:

>

what is the difference between us and a tape recorder making some

noise?

 

 

Dear brother

 

What is the difference? The intention.

 

Of course if you can focus on the meaning then that is better, but if

not, there is no need to feel there has been no benefit.

 

With love

 

Farah

[Guest guest]

, " janfarah_strongspirit "

<janfarah_strongspirit wrote:

 

> What is the difference? The intention.

 

 

Yes I agree with Farahji.

 

Swami Sivanand also said that Mantras, even if repeated without

knowing their meaning, still give effect.

 

As I said, if you could only chant mantras with a calm mind, that

would disallow 99% of population, making mantras practically useless.

 

Most people dont know the theory behind mantras. Mantras are not

prayers, or call to the Divine, or anything like that(though can

become those as well if intention is there).

 

A Mantra is a mystial word/combination of words that when chanted in a

peculiar manner generates Pranic/psychic energy, which directly

affects our subtle or astral body. As such they should give their

effect even when chanted mechanically.

 

Mantras do take a long time(but they are also safer & more surer

techniques), which makes many people doubt them, or think the fact

they are not getting results is because the cannot concentrate enough.

 

The concentration comes automatically. Till one must have faith in God

& ones own Sadhna & keep steady on the path.

 

love

Shantnu

[Guest guest]

Humble Obeisances to all, Elders, seniors, fellow ones and juniors also.

After a long time I have read some good thing. Chanting. Let out mind be

calm or disturbed, jumping here and there, keep on chanting loudly (in

lonely place) but not shouting, and tell the God that this mantra is

yours and mind is also yours, do what ever you like and I deserve, but I

will keep on chanting your name / mantra. Let the God decide. Don't take

any decision at your own and leave chanting. Determination and immense

faith in He will solve your problem. All sernirs are experienced and are

authority in this field. Keep their suggestion in mind and go on

chanting. Thanks everyone for good discussion and very good advice.

Heartful regards.

[Guest guest]

dear Nand

 

Namaste

 

Welcome to the Ammachi group and also to the Amma family. I do not have

knowledge of the mantras, but would like to make the suggestion that you

can email dayamrita <dayamrita for

have been told by other Amma devotees that he is a very acknowledgeable

about the mantras and ceremonies for spiritual devotion. He is a

Brahmachari and surrendered devotee/servant mastered by Amma.

 

May your day be blessed

 

Aum Amriteswaryai Namah

 

marci

 

 

Ammachi , nand mugve <mugve2005 wrote:

>

> Would anyone like to discuss on-line or off-line the Panchadasaakshari

and Shodasaakshari mantras? I am a newcomer. Nand Mugve.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ammachi , nand mugve <mugve2005 wrote:

>

> Would anyone like to discuss on-line or off-line the

Panchadasaakshari and Shodasaakshari mantras? I am a newcomer. Nand Mugve.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

 

 

jai gurudev

 

 

dear friend,

 

 

lord hari is anant and his katha is anant.

 

i am doing mantras to lord bhairav,lord narasimha,

lord venkateshwara,lord rudra,etc.

 

who is anyone to decide which mantra belongs to

which catagory ???

 

yr own karma decides it.

 

a gun in a terrorists hands can be tamasic but in

a commando's hand is sattvic.

 

salvation is given by god whethere u r tamasik or

sattvic.

 

ravan was a tamasik person who killed brahmins and

drank their blood and was opposed to lord vishnu.

 

yet as lord ram lord vishnu gave him salvation.

 

same was tripurasur was enemy of lord rudra

but he got salvation from shiva after

being killed.

 

so in short take god's name,dont

worry abt anything else,salvation is assured.

 

lord vishnu-ram-krishna and shiv-bhairav-mahakaal r one and same,and people

who try to put bheda in them will burn in hell forever.

 

pls read srimad bhagwat puran etc u will know that krishna and shiv r one and the same.

 

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

On 6/25/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra  and Mantra  Sadhana.  In the month of June itself  a number of postings were made on  Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc.  A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding  abount Mantra etc. with you all.

 What is a Mantra ?   Which is the most powerful Mantra?  How are Mantras to be learnt?  How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc.  I want to share  some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard  

A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for.  When the Mantras  that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc.   is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined  Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation.  A Mantra is an aid to meditation.

 

There are three types of Mantras: -

The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik  Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik.

 

All the Mantras  again fall under two classifications:-

(a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and

(b) those Mantras  that are of the nature  of an invocation and the devotee must  necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras.  In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind  to play upon the Divine theme constantly.

 

The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry.  Metrical Mantras are called " Rik " and " Yajus " is  the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Mr. Gopal,My posting on Mantras is too general in nature. How could you read a Bheda between Hari and Hara in my posting? I have not pointed out any such Bheda. Why then such a comment on my posting? Pl. elucidate.G.Balasubramaniangopal narayan <gopalnarayan123 Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:08:52 AM mantras

 

 

 

jai gurudev

 

 

dear friend,

 

 

lord hari is anant and his katha is anant.

 

i am doing mantras to lord bhairav,lord narasimha,

lord venkateshwara, lord rudra,etc.

 

who is anyone to decide which mantra belongs to

which catagory ???

 

yr own karma decides it.

 

a gun in a terrorists hands can be tamasic but in

a commando's hand is sattvic.

 

salvation is given by god whethere u r tamasik or

sattvic.

 

ravan was a tamasik person who killed brahmins and

drank their blood and was opposed to lord vishnu.

 

yet as lord ram lord vishnu gave him salvation.

 

same was tripurasur was enemy of lord rudra

but he got salvation from shiva after

being killed.

 

so in short take god's name,dont

worry abt anything else,salvation is assured.

 

lord vishnu-ram-krishna and shiv-bhairav- mahakaal r one and same,and people

who try to put bheda in them will burn in hell forever.

 

pls read srimad bhagwat puran etc u will know that krishna and shiv r one and the same.

 

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

On 6/25/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra and Mantra Sadhana. In the month of June itself a number of postings were made on Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc. A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding abount Mantra etc. with you all.

What is a Mantra ? Which is the most powerful Mantra? How are Mantras to be learnt? How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc. I want to share some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard

A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for. When the Mantras that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc. is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation. A Mantra is an aid to meditation.

 

There are three types of Mantras: -

The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik.

 

All the Mantras again fall under two classifications: -

(a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and

(b) those Mantras that are of the nature of an invocation and the devotee must necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras. In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind to play upon the Divine theme constantly.

 

The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry. Metrical Mantras are called "Rik" and "Yajus" is the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian

 

 

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[Guest guest]

 

 

 

jai gurudev,

 

 

dear friend,

 

it is just a general comment.

 

if u feel hurt,i sincerely apologise.

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

On 6/26/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Mr. Gopal,My posting  on Mantras is too general in nature.  How could you read a Bheda  between Hari  and Hara   in my posting?  I have not pointed out any such  Bheda.  Why then such a comment on my posting?  Pl. elucidate.

G.Balasubramanian

 

 

 

gopal narayan <gopalnarayan123

 

Thursday, June 25, 2009 5:08:52 AM mantras

 

 

 

 

 

jai gurudev

 

 

dear friend,

 

 

lord hari is anant and his katha is anant.

 

i am doing mantras to lord bhairav,lord narasimha,

lord venkateshwara, lord rudra,etc.

 

who is anyone to decide which mantra belongs to

which catagory ???

 

yr own karma decides it.

 

a gun in a terrorists hands can be tamasic but in

a commando's hand is sattvic.

 

salvation is given by god whethere u r tamasik or

sattvic.

 

ravan was a tamasik person who killed brahmins and

drank their blood and was opposed to lord vishnu.

 

yet as lord ram lord vishnu gave him salvation.

 

same was tripurasur was enemy of lord rudra

but he got salvation from shiva after

being killed.

 

so in short take god's name,dont

worry abt anything else,salvation is assured.

 

lord vishnu-ram-krishna and shiv-bhairav- mahakaal r one and same,and people

who try to put bheda in them will burn in hell forever.

 

pls read srimad bhagwat puran etc u will know that krishna and shiv r one and the same.

 

 

 

om shakti

 

gopal

 

 

 

 

On 6/25/09, G Balasubramanian <gbsub > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Radhe Krishna and Hari OM,I have been observing that very learned discussions have been going on in this about Mantra  and Mantra  Sadhana.  In the month of June itself  a number of postings were made on  Mrityunjaya Mantra, Bhairava mantra etc. etc.  A number of postings related to mantra Japam. These prompted me to share my understanding  abount Mantra etc. with you all.

 What is a Mantra ?   Which is the most powerful Mantra?  How are Mantras to be learnt?  How Mantras are to chanted? etc. etc.  I want to share  some of my thoughts and understanding in this regard  

A Mantra can be said to be a word-symbol or symbols representing and expressing, as nearly as possible, the particular view of God and the universe they stand for.  When the Mantras  that are of the nature of symbols, syllables etc. etc.   is given to the disciple or sadhaka by an illumined  Guru, it becomes a living seed. The Guru, by his spiritual power, gives life to the word and at the same time awakens the spiritual power latent in the disciple. That is the secret of Guru`s initiation.  A Mantra is an aid to meditation.

 

There are three types of Mantras: -

The first category include those that invoke the low powers of nature and are called as Tamasik  Mantras. The second category of Mantras excite and manifest might and power and are called Rajasik Mantras. Lastly, those that are of quiet and purely spiritual types are called Satwik.

 

All the Mantras  again fall under two classifications: -

(a) those that need only to be chanted and there is no need for one to know their meaning and

(b) those Mantras  that are of the nature  of an invocation and the devotee must  necessarily know the meaning of those Mantras.  In the abscence of knowledge of meaning of the Mantras he will not be able to bring his mind  to play upon the Divine theme constantly.

 

The Vedic Mantras are both in prose and poetry.  Metrical Mantras are called " Rik " and " Yajus " is  the name of the prose .(to be continued)G.Balasubramanian

 

 

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