Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION.--- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020 wrote: shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020Re: Peaceful life Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM DEAR DEVOTEES, can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things to others are living happy and people who are doing some good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and have experienced that god will rescue his people. DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD SHIVA. with best whises-shanmugha priya. --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ ..com> wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: mlingaraj72@ Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM SARVAM SIVA MAYAM When the mother conceives, from that stage itself, the science in which you have full faith, that science, does not allow that zygote, - the uni-cellular organ - to grow in its natural way - in the prAkritic way. Medicines, injections, tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from outside. Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not have to try itself. This administering of medicines, in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too effective, and that too without making any effort, without doing any job. This makes that kid dependent on the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, whatever it developed with the help of these administered food, it starts thinking about the outside world. Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his creed, his relegion, his cultural organisation, his social organisation, his political organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach him, are about the things which are "STUDY OF VISIBLES IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES" All are troubling to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in him. Nor he also. Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his peace. God gave us the health, all the organs in working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have peace. Just think, I have everyting my body needs, I have the necessary health, wealth and knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the world. Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away and you should not. Start parting with these things as far as possible. The more you part with, the more you earn the point, the more your account will be credited with credit. What is going out, what you are giving to another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, this is the system. We can see the accountants themselves do not believe in this when it comes to their personal life. List of Debtors is the list of amount which you are to receive and list of Creditors means the list which you are to pay. When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired about that person whether he is in need of my help monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force which forces him to draw or make such pictures. Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' it. Do not bring all the worldly, material matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg files of Siva. SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om........... . Wish you all the best vijayan --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > wrote: mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM How do u live a peaceful life. please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in peace.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 Some are born rich some are poor. In the recent Economic meltdown many rich people lost all their wealth and committed suicide even.Irrespective whether you believe in GOD or not sufferings and happiness take place in everyones life at different points of time. Dont expect any miracles all the time. Whatever has to happen will happen. But your PRAYERS will definitely mitigate your sufferings and also will give you strength to pass over bad times. Why look at others.How do you know their problems and how do you presume they are happy. Many wealthy people have HEALTH PROBLEMS, FAMILY LIFE PROBLEMS, and daily worries about how to protect huge wealth. In anycase READ MORE ABOUT HOW TO LIVE HAPPILY THAN WORRY ABOUT OTHERS. TRC On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan wrote: WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION.--- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020 wrote: shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020Re: Peaceful life Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM DEAR DEVOTEES, can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things to others are living happy and people who are doing some good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and have experienced that god will rescue his people. DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD SHIVA. with best whises-shanmugha priya. --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ ..com> wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Cc: mlingaraj72@ Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM SARVAM SIVA MAYAM When the mother conceives, from that stage itself, the science in which you have full faith, that science, does not allow that zygote, - the uni-cellular organ - to grow in its natural way - in the prAkritic way. Medicines, injections, tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from outside. Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not have to try itself. This administering of medicines, in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too effective, and that too without making any effort, without doing any job. This makes that kid dependent on the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, whatever it developed with the help of these administered food, it starts thinking about the outside world. Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his creed, his relegion, his cultural organisation, his social organisation, his political organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach him, are about the things which are " STUDY OF VISIBLES IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES " All are troubling to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in him. Nor he also. Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his peace. God gave us the health, all the organs in working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have peace. Just think, I have everyting my body needs, I have the necessary health, wealth and knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the world. Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away and you should not. Start parting with these things as far as possible. The more you part with, the more you earn the point, the more your account will be credited with credit. What is going out, what you are giving to another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, this is the system. We can see the accountants themselves do not believe in this when it comes to their personal life. List of Debtors is the list of amount which you are to receive and list of Creditors means the list which you are to pay. When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired about that person whether he is in need of my help monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force which forces him to draw or make such pictures. Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' it. Do not bring all the worldly, material matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg files of Siva. SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om........... . Wish you all the best vijayan --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > wrote: mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM How do u live a peaceful life. please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in peace.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 People have to intelligently descrininate good and evcils and act accrdingly. They have to refe scriptures thoroughly Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2009 4:33:34 AM Role of KALIYUG - Peaceful life WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION.--- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020@ .co. in> wrote: shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020@ .co. in>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM DEAR DEVOTEES, can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things to others are living happy and people who are doing some good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and have experienced that god will rescue his people. DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD SHIVA. with best whises-shanmugha priya. --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ ..com> wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: mlingaraj72@ Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM SARVAM SIVA MAYAM When the mother conceives, from that stage itself, the science in which you have full faith, that science, does not allow that zygote, - the uni-cellular organ - to grow in its natural way - in the prAkritic way. Medicines, injections, tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from outside. Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not have to try itself. This administering of medicines, in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too effective, and that too without making any effort, without doing any job. This makes that kid dependent on the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, whatever it developed with the help of these administered food, it starts thinking about the outside world. Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his creed, his relegion, his cultural organisation, his social organisation, his political organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach him, are about the things which are "STUDY OF VISIBLES IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES" All are troubling to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in him. Nor he also. Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his peace. God gave us the health, all the organs in working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have peace. Just think, I have everyting my body needs, I have the necessary health, wealth and knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the world. Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away and you should not. Start parting with these things as far as possible. The more you part with, the more you earn the point, the more your account will be credited with credit. What is going out, what you are giving to another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, this is the system. We can see the accountants themselves do not believe in this when it comes to their personal life. List of Debtors is the list of amount which you are to receive and list of Creditors means the list which you are to pay. When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired about that person whether he is in need of my help monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force which forces him to draw or make such pictures. Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' it. Do not bring all the worldly, material matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg files of Siva. SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om.......... . . Wish you all the best vijayan --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > wrote: mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM How do u live a peaceful life. please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in peace.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 I make an attempt to answer this question by quoting from Bagavad Gita:-Krishna tells Arjuna : " karmanyeva dikarasthe maa palechu kadacana.. " " Do your duty and let not the End results matter..'I' will decide the fate.. " It has profound meaning particularly in this context...we shdn't bother about what others are enjoying or entitled to.....we shdn't also start blaming God for our problems as we never Thank Him whenever we had some happy endings too(for instance the HUman birth itself is His Kadaksham!).. So continue to do your duty..Let not the end results be your concern..This way you will start realising that there is an inner Jyoti in you which is beyond all these materialistic pursuits..Hope I have made a small contribution to you qn with pranams to alls.rajah iyerOn Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan wrote: WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION.--- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020 wrote: shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020Re: Peaceful life Date: Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM DEAR DEVOTEES,                    can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things to others are living happy and people who are doing some good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and have experienced that god will rescue his people. DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD SHIVA. with best whises-shanmugha priya. --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ ..com> wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful life om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: mlingaraj72@ Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM SARVAM SIVA MAYAM  When the mother conceives, from that stage itself,  the science in which you have full faith, that science, does not allow that zygote, - the uni-cellular organ -  to grow in its natural way - in the prAkritic way.  Medicines, injections, tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from outside.  Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not have to try itself. This administering of medicines, in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too effective, and that too without making any effort, without doing any job.  This makes that kid dependent on the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, whatever it developed with the help of these administered food, it starts thinking about the outside world. Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his creed, his relegion, his cultural organisation, his social organisation, his political organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach him, are about the things which are " STUDY OF VISIBLES IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES "   All are troubling to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in him. Nor he also.  Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his peace.  God gave us the health, all the organs in working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have peace.  Just think, I have everyting my body needs, I have the necessary health,  wealth and knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the world.  Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away and you should not.  Start parting with these things as far as possible.  The more you part with, the more you earn the point, the more your account will be credited with credit.  What is going out, what you are giving to another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, this is the system. We can see the accountants themselves do not believe in this when it comes to their personal life. List of Debtors is the list of amount which you are to receive and list of Creditors means the list which you are to pay.  When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired about that person whether he is in need of my help monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force which forces him to draw or make such pictures.  Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' it.  Do not bring all the worldly, material matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg files of Siva.  SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om........... . Wish you all the best vijayan            --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > wrote: mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM How do u live a peaceful life. please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in peace.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2009 Report Share Posted April 18, 2009 You put it in the right way Mr Suri. Mr Ganesh and Ms Priya, The questions and expressions in your posts is the general feeling of 80% of the population. The debates on existance of God or non-existance of God is a never ending one. There are no material proofs for this existance but this is beyond the comprehension of common man. Humans are born with a virtue and that is happiness. They want to be happy always. Each one has his own level of happiness. Here is what I believe: Each one's destiny and behaviour is determined by their stars. Everyone is given opportunities. Its up to us to take it. As you sow so you reap is an universal truth. Why do you have so many beggars around us? Its the result of a sins committed in their previous birth. What you are today is the result of what you did yesterday. Everyone will pay a price for the sins either in this birth or the next. One has to be attached to God and hold on to him in God times and Bad times. Perform good deeds and deposit more to your goodwill account. The ultimate truth is to be relieved from the circle of birth and death and reach God. Please remember just like how our parents love us, God loves us too. Believe in him and trust him. He will never let you down. Everything is happening in accordance with his programme. Regards Sriram.S "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."--- On Sat, 4/18/09, SURI RAJAH <suri441 wrote: SURI RAJAH <suri441Re: Role of KALIYUG - Peaceful life Date: Saturday, April 18, 2009, 10:00 AM I make an attempt to answer this question by quoting from Bagavad Gita:-Krishna tells Arjuna :"karmanyeva dikarasthe maa palechu kadacana..""Do your duty and let not the End results matter..'I' will decide the fate.."It has profound meaning particularly in this context...we shdn't bother about what others are enjoying or entitled to.....we shdn't also start blaming God for our problems as we never Thank Him whenever we had some happy endings too(for instance the HUman birth itself is His Kadaksham!). .So continue to do your duty..Let not the end results be your concern..This way you will start realising that there is an inner Jyoti in you which is beyond all these materialistic pursuits..Hope I have made a small contribution to you qnwith pranams to alls.rajah iyer On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan@ > wrote: WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION.--- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020@ .co. in> wrote: shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020@ .co. in>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM DEAR DEVOTEES, can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things to others are living happy and people who are doing some good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and have experienced that god will rescue his people. DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD SHIVA. with best whises-shanmugha priya. --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ ..com> wrote: VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ >Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: mlingaraj72@ Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM SARVAM SIVA MAYAM When the mother conceives, from that stage itself, the science in which you have full faith, that science, does not allow that zygote, - the uni-cellular organ - to grow in its natural way - in the prAkritic way. Medicines, injections, tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from outside. Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not have to try itself. This administering of medicines, in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too effective, and that too without making any effort, without doing any job. This makes that kid dependent on the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, whatever it developed with the help of these administered food, it starts thinking about the outside world. Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his creed, his relegion, his cultural organisation, his social organisation, his political organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach him, are about the things which are "STUDY OF VISIBLES IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES" All are troubling to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in him. Nor he also. Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his peace. God gave us the health, all the organs in working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have peace. Just think, I have everyting my body needs, I have the necessary health, wealth and knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the world. Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away and you should not. Start parting with these things as far as possible. The more you part with, the more you earn the point, the more your account will be credited with credit. What is going out, what you are giving to another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, this is the system. We can see the accountants themselves do not believe in this when it comes to their personal life. List of Debtors is the list of amount which you are to receive and list of Creditors means the list which you are to pay. When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired about that person whether he is in need of my help monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force which forces him to draw or make such pictures. Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' it. Do not bring all the worldly, material matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg files of Siva. SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om.......... . . Wish you all the best vijayan --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > wrote: mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful lifeom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comTuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM How do u live a peaceful life. please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in peace.------------ --------- --------- ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 till when this kalug will be??? how much time more regards, anubhav sharma --- On Sat, 18/4/09, Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan wrote: > Ganesh Goardhan <ganeshgoardhan > Role of KALIYUG - Peaceful life > > Saturday, 18 April, 2009, 4:33 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > WHAT YOU SAY IS CORRECT MOST OF THE TIMES. > IN THIS KALIYUG EVIL IS REWARDED MOST OF THE TIMES. IT IS > JUST THE REVERSE OF SAY RAMAVTAR. > IN THIS SCENARIO WHAT > YOU WANT TO ADOPT GOOD OR EVIL IS AN OPEN QUESTION. > > --- On Fri, 4/17/09, shanmugha priya priya > <priyapsindia2020@ .co. in> wrote: > > > shanmugha priya priya <priyapsindia2020@ .co. > in> > Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful life > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > Friday, April 17, 2009, 8:05 AM > > > DEAR DEVOTEES, > > can any one can clear my doubt?.i want to ask something > which kindles my heart.basically i am from a saiva family > all my family members have faith in loard shiva.in my > childhood i used to go to temple and pray to god.but after > sometimes i asked to myself is the god is in existance > if so why some peoples are suffering eventhough they find a > place in the feet of lord(the person who goes to temple > regularly or periodically) .god has the responsible to > make peoples happy .but why he is not doing such > things.in my life i found that the people who do evil things > to others are living happy and people who are doing some > good deeds and all the time chanting his namas suffer a lot. > and i also got some answers it is all due to karma, if so > why we want to pray to god and alway chant his namas.and > have experienced that god will rescue > his people. > DONT THINK THAT I AM AN ATHEIST.I TOO HAVE FAITH BUT > THE MATTER IS I AM NOT FULLY SATISFIED. > REALLY IF ANY ONE COME FORWARD TO ANSWER FOR THIS > QUESTION I WILL BE REALLY THANKFUL AND GRATEFUL TO LORD > SHIVA. > with best whises-shanmugha priya. > > > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ > ..com> wrote: > > > VIJAYANJI <vijayankiliyil@ > > Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful life > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > Cc: mlingaraj72@ > Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:30 PM > > > SARVAM SIVA MAYAM > > When the mother conceives, from that stage > itself, the science in which you have full faith, > that science, does not allow that zygote, - the > uni-cellular organ - to grow in its natural way - > in the prAkritic way. Medicines, injections, > tablets etc are administered in it compulsorily from > outside. > > Due to this, that zygote, that foetus, that kid, does > not have to depend much on its mother. That kid does not > have to try itself. This administering of medicines, > in most of the cases, all are unwanted and unnecessary, make > this growing child fully dependent on outside food, which is > easily available in sufficient quantity, that too, in a > capsule form, in a concentrated form and is too > effective, and that too without making any effort, without > doing any job. This makes that kid dependent on > the outer world. As soon as that kid is born, its brain, > whatever it developed with the help of these administered > food, it starts thinking about the outside world. > Slowly it starts learning about all the outside things which > are able to see, which are able to hear, which are able to > smell etc Then whatever the parents, the family > members, the society, the institutions, his caste, his > creed, his relegion, his cultural > organisation, his social organisation, his political > organisation, his nation, all they give him, all they teach > him, are about the things which are " STUDY OF VISIBLES > IN TERMS OF CALCULABLES " All are troubling > to set up a HOUSE in him. Nobody wants to set up a HOME in > him. Nor he also. > > Living in the family, living in the HOME, living in > the society, engaging in all the outside activities, one can > leave a peaceful life. Surely one may not be able to > travel in the spiritual way and get peace. But one can > prevent himself becoming pieces which will destroy his > peace. God gave us the health, all the organs in > working condition, the head, eyes, ears, mouth, hands, > stomach, legs and all that and still I make hue > and cry and complain to everybody that I do not have > peace. Just think, I have everyting my body > needs, I have the necessary health, wealth and > knowledge. Still why I am not happy. Even after having > all these, if I am not happy, if I do not have peace, > definitely, these things cannot give peace to anybody in the > world. > > Then what to do now. I cannot just throw it away > and you should not. Start parting with these things as > far as possible. The more you part with, the more > you earn the point, the more your account will be credited > with credit. What is going out, what you are giving to > another, that is credit and what is coming in, what you get > that is debit.In the mercantile accounting principle also, > this is the system. We can see the accountants > themselves do not believe in this when it > comes to their personal life. List of Debtors > is the list of amount which you are to receive and list > of Creditors means the list which you are to pay. > > > When you see a visual, try to see in it what is not > seen. When you see a picture, we normally say that if that > colour is still little bit darker, it would have been more > nice, if this line is little thin, it will be more > impressive. We fail to see the person who drew it, we > fail to see the person who painted it, we fail to see the > time, energy and money he spent for that, we never enquired > about that person whether he is in need of my help > monitorily at least, try to see that invisible force > which forces him to draw or make such pictures. > > Like that just think, from (with) a small drop of > liquid, I am here, you are here, others are here. What is > this wonder. When one starts just thinking like this, > he will become peace. His Atma will become peace. You > cannot get peace because it is not piece. Only those which > are pieces, you can purchase. But peace is not that, peace > is not seen anywhere, peace is not for sale anywhere. It is > to be felt, it is to be experienced. It is not outside, > it is in you and therefore you will not 'get' > it. Do not bring all the worldly, material > matters into your mind, store it in your brain, it will get > jammed and will exhaust the memory. If your > computer memory is full, you delete the unwanted > files. Here also you have to delete the unwanted > stored items to get more space. Accommodate there the .jpg > files of Siva. > > SIVA IS THERE WITH YOU, HE IS IN YOU, HE IS OUTSIDE > YOU, HE IS AROUND YOU, HE IS IN FRONT OF YOU, BENEATH YOU, > ABOVE YOU, YOU ARE IN IT, IT IS IN YOU, TRY TO FEEL THIS > PRINCIPLE, YOU ARE A PEACEFUL AATMA. Om.......... . . > > Wish you all the best > vijayan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > > wrote: > > > mlingaraj72 <mlingaraj72@ > > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Peaceful life > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com > Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 9:58 PM > > > How do u live a peaceful life. > please tell me the steps/methods to follow to live in > peace. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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