What is the primary requisite needed to win God's grace?

[Guest guest]

Namaste!

Yes and in addition to an anti-virus we obviously need an adware blocker to

filter out the media garbage whose soul(not sole) purpose is to corrupt us of

our spirituality and strengthen maya.

 

Pranams

Bhakta Stephen

 

 

, Sriram S <sriram_s_98 wrote:

>

> Dear Kishore,

>  

> That below phrase has been my signature since time immemorial. I am also a

follower of Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi and this is one of his teachings.

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

>

> Thank you for the inputs on the impure thoughts. Obviously one needs to be

focused on the pure thoughts rather than think about impure thoughts. But just

like how an Anti-virus program scans the files that are entering into a computer

each one should have a built in anti virus program that should prevent impure

thoughts to enter the mind.

> There are 2 things we need to do here. Install a powerful anti-virus program

that will quarantine the existing impure thoughts and then build an immune

system to prevent further entry. This is not going to be easy in this

materialistic and greedy world.

> One of the most deadly and dangerous impure thought is lust.

> We live in a sex-saturated society. Advertisers use " sex appeal " to sell

perfume, after shave lotion, blue jeans, hosiery, even toothpaste. Most of the

TV advertising we see is carefully designed to appeal to our sensual natures.

> Lust is sinful sexual passion. It is sinful sexual thinking nurtured in your

mind and dwell-ed on for the sake of personal sensual pleasure. This actually

makes us live a double life.

> If one is able to overcome this, others impure thoughts can be eliminated with

consummate ease.

>  

> Thoughts? 

>

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv wrote:

>

> MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv

> Re: Re: What is the primary requisite needed

to win God's grace?

>

> Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:10 AM

>

>

>

>

>

Really a good message. Thank you.

> VMK

>

> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed to

win God's grace?

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:43 AM

>

>

>

>

> Dear

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in

> a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

> Best regards,

> Kishore Puvvada

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

[Guest guest]

Om Namah Shivaya!

 

In my opinion, we need to be receptive and make sure that we do not come in the

way with other thoughts and beliefs. God's grace is ever there.

 

Om,

 

Gaurav Goel

 

, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan

wrote:

>

> Dear Sriram,

>  

> Building a anti-virus kind of program to purge all impure thoughts is a great

idea and technique but how long will it work, how consistant it will be in

facing the temptations of this world?

>  

> Forcing ourself from temptation will lead to more dangerous consequences in

the long run, the solution to overcome impure thoughts and temptations is

to accept our weekness and surrender before the lord for mercy and guidance to

overcome the negativities, with gods grace we can overcome anything.

>  

> Having a deep faith in god and his kingdom will change our perspective towards

life and pleasures from inside out, but this is a slow process which requires

bhakti, decipline (mantra chanting, pranayama, etc). Prayer is a simplest and

greatest mechanism to start and sustain the process of clensing and increasing

the faith.

>  

> God Bless,

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> Divakar.

>

> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Sriram S <sriram_s_98 wrote:

>

> Sriram S <sriram_s_98

> Re: Re: What is the primary requisite needed

to win God's grace?

>

> Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:12 PM

>

>

>

>

>

Dear Kishore,

>  

> That below phrase has been my signature since time immemorial. I am also a

follower of Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi and this is one of his teachings.

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

>

> Thank you for the inputs on the impure thoughts. Obviously one needs to be

focused on the pure thoughts rather than think about impure thoughts. But just

like how an Anti-virus program scans the files that are entering into a computer

each one should have a built in anti virus program that should prevent impure

thoughts to enter the mind.

> There are 2 things we need to do here. Install a powerful anti-virus program

that will quarantine the existing impure thoughts and then build an immune

system to prevent further entry. This is not going to be easy in this

materialistic and greedy world.

> One of the most deadly and dangerous impure thought is lust.

> We live in a sex-saturated society. Advertisers use " sex appeal " to sell

perfume, after shave lotion, blue jeans, hosiery, even toothpaste. Most of the

TV advertising we see is carefully designed to appeal to our sensual natures.

> Lust is sinful sexual passion. It is sinful sexual thinking nurtured in your

mind and dwell-ed on for the sake of personal sensual pleasure. This actually

makes us live a double life.

> If one is able to overcome this, others impure thoughts can be eliminated with

consummate ease.

>  

> Thoughts? 

>

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@ > wrote:

>

> MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@ >

> Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite

needed to win God's grace?

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:10 AM

>

>

>

Really a good message. Thank you.

> VMK

>

> --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

>

>

> Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed to

win God's grace?

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:43 AM

>

>

>

>

> Dear

>

> " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in

> a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world. "

>

> Best regards,

> Kishore Puvvada

> Om Namah Shivaya

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Gaurav,

 

I apoligise if you misunderstood my post, I acknowledge having this kind on mind control is very good but I am asking how practical it is, the reason I asked this is because I tried this for long and it did not work, it may work for others and I am not saying it is wrong or ineffective, I expressed my opinion out of my experience.

 

Om Namah Shivaya,

God Bless,

Divakar.

 

--- On Thu, 3/5/09, Gaurav Goel <grvgl.mail wrote:

Gaurav Goel <grvgl.mail Re: What is the primary requisite needed to win God's grace? Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 9:24 PM

 

 

Om Namah Shivaya!In my opinion, we need to be receptive and make sure that we do not come in the way with other thoughts and beliefs. God's grace is ever there.Om,Gaurav Goelom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote:>> Dear Sriram, > > Building a anti-virus kind of program to purge all impure thoughts is a great idea and technique but how long will it work, how consistant it will be in facing the temptations of this world?> > Forcing ourself from temptation will lead to more dangerous consequences in the long run, the solution to overcome impure thoughts and temptations is to accept our weekness and surrender before the lord for mercy and guidance to overcome the negativities, with gods grace we can overcome anything.

> > Having a deep faith in god and his kingdom will change our perspective towards life and pleasures from inside out, but this is a slow process which requires bhakti, decipline (mantra chanting, pranayama, etc). Prayer is a simplest and greatest mechanism to start and sustain the process of clensing and increasing the faith. > > God Bless, > Om Namah Shivaya, > Divakar. > > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Sriram S <sriram_s_98@ ...> wrote:> > Sriram S <sriram_s_98@ ...>> Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed to win God's grace?> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:12 PM> > > > > > > > > > >

> Dear Kishore,> > That below phrase has been my signature since time immemorial. I am also a follower of Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi and this is one of his teachings.> > "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."> > > Thank you for the inputs on the impure thoughts. Obviously one needs to be focused on the pure thoughts rather than think about impure thoughts. But just like how an Anti-virus program scans the files that are entering into a computer each one should have a built in anti virus program that should prevent impure thoughts to enter the mind. > There are 2 things we need to do here. Install a powerful anti-virus program that will quarantine the existing impure thoughts and then build an immune system to prevent further entry. This is not going to be easy in this materialistic and greedy

world.> One of the most deadly and dangerous impure thought is lust. > We live in a sex-saturated society. Advertisers use "sex appeal" to sell perfume, after shave lotion, blue jeans, hosiery, even toothpaste. Most of the TV advertising we see is carefully designed to appeal to our sensual natures. > Lust is sinful sexual passion. It is sinful sexual thinking nurtured in your mind and dwell-ed on for the sake of personal sensual pleasure. This actually makes us live a double life.> If one is able to overcome this, others impure thoughts can be eliminated with consummate ease.> > Thoughts? > > > "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."> > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@ > wrote:> > MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@

>> Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed to win God's grace?> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:10 AM> > > > > > > > > > Really a good message. Thank you.> VMK> > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:> > > Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>> [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed to win God's grace?> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com> Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:43 AM> > > > > Dear > > "Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in > a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world."> > Best regards,> Kishore

Puvvada> Om Namah Shivaya>

[Guest guest]

Dear Members,

 

One has to make efforts to experience bliss or attain Ishwar (God) in very this

birth, which is called as sadhana (spiritual practice).

 

In the field of Medical science, one is recognized as a doctor only when he has

studied the books (theory) and has given treatment to the patients, during his

study time in the university. One can never become a doctor just by reading

books. Similarly one cannot understand Dhyaan, Bhakti, Shraddha.. etc. by just

reading about it. One has to undertake spiritual practice (sadhana) in daily

life, to experience it.

 

The first question that arises is, in this era, which is the simplest and

practical method to attain the state of God realization? In other words, in

Kaliyug (era of strife), which is the simplest way of spiritual practice

(Sadhana)?

 

The simplest sadhana in Kaliyug is chanting (namajapa). Our four main Vedas,

Upanishad, Shreemad Bhagwat Geeta, Shreemad Bhagwatpuran etc clearly explain the

importance of naam sadhana.

 

In Chhandogyopanishad, it is said that

 

" Naam upaasavyaa. (Chhandogyopanishad 7/1/4)

 

Meaning: Chant (continuously)

 

Saint Tulsidas has said,

 

Naanmu saprem japat anayasa |

Bhagat hohim mud mangal basa ||

Sumiri pavansut pavan naamu |

Apane basa kari rakhe ramu ||

 

Meaning: devotee can easily get immersed in the ocean of Bliss, when he chants

with love. Son of wind Sree Hanuman won Sree Ram's heart only by chanting His

name continuously.

 

As per Geeta,

 

Mahrsheenam bhrugurham giramsmyekmskarm |

Ydnaamjapayadnyosmi sthavaranam himalayaha || (Shreemad bhagwatgeeta 10:25)

 

Meaning: I am Bhrugu rushi in the list of all maharshee. I am one letter in any

sentence, which means I am `Om'. I am sacrificial fire of chanting and amongst

those, who are strong and stable, I am Himalaya mountain.

 

Regards

Prasanna Kumar

Group owner

[Guest guest]

The Bhagvad geeta's message (not just of brahmakumaris) is to just remember him.

Geeta preaches that Gyan and Dhyan (remembrance not meditation) is the best way

to get his grace. Of course the grace does not mean materialistic stuff as it is

clearly mentioned in Geeta that if you worship to gain 'padarth' i.e. material

then one foucus on material not God thus he cannnot achieve grace of God.

 

Regards

 

Navin

 

, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan

wrote:

>

> Dear Gaurav,

>  

> I apoligise if you misunderstood my post, I acknowledge having this kind on

mind control is very good but I am asking how practical it is, the reason I

asked this is because I tried this for long and it did not work, it may work for

others and I am not saying it is wrong or ineffective, I expressed my opinion

out of my experience.

>  

> Om Namah Shivaya,

> God Bless,

> Divakar.

>  

>

> --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Gaurav Goel <grvgl.mail wrote:

>

> Gaurav Goel <grvgl.mail

> Re: What is the primary requisite needed to

win God's grace?

>

> Thursday, March 5, 2009, 9:24 PM

Om Namah Shivaya!

>

> In my opinion, we need to be receptive and make sure that we do not come in

the way with other thoughts and beliefs. God's grace is ever there.

>

> Om,

>

> Gaurav Goel

>

> om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan@ >

wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sriram,

> >  

> > Building a anti-virus kind of program to purge all impure thoughts is a

great idea and technique but how long will it work, how consistant it will be in

facing the temptations of this world?

> >  

> > Forcing ourself from temptation will lead to more dangerous consequences in

the long run, the solution to overcome impure thoughts and temptations is

to accept our weekness and surrender before the lord for mercy and guidance to

overcome the negativities, with gods grace we can overcome anything.

> >  

> > Having a deep faith in god and his kingdom will change our perspective

towards life and pleasures from inside out, but this is a slow process which

requires bhakti, decipline (mantra chanting, pranayama, etc). Prayer is a

simplest and greatest mechanism to start and sustain the process of clensing and

increasing the faith.

> >  

> > God Bless,

> > Om Namah Shivaya,

> > Divakar.

> >

> > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Sriram S <sriram_s_98@ ...> wrote:

> >

> > Sriram S <sriram_s_98@ ...>

> > Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite

needed to win God's grace?

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> > Monday, March 2, 2009, 5:12 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Kishore,

> >  

> > That below phrase has been my signature since time immemorial. I am also a

follower of Bhagawan Ramana Maharshi and this is one of his teachings.

> >

> > " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

> >

> >

> > Thank you for the inputs on the impure thoughts. Obviously one needs to be

focused on the pure thoughts rather than think about impure thoughts. But just

like how an Anti-virus program scans the files that are entering into a computer

each one should have a built in anti virus program that should prevent impure

thoughts to enter the mind.

> > There are 2 things we need to do here. Install a powerful anti-virus program

that will quarantine the existing impure thoughts and then build an immune

system to prevent further entry. This is not going to be easy in this

materialistic and greedy world.

> > One of the most deadly and dangerous impure thought is lust.

> > We live in a sex-saturated society. Advertisers use " sex appeal " to sell

perfume, after shave lotion, blue jeans, hosiery, even toothpaste. Most of the

TV advertising we see is carefully designed to appeal to our sensual natures.

> > Lust is sinful sexual passion. It is sinful sexual thinking nurtured in your

mind and dwell-ed on for the sake of personal sensual pleasure. This actually

makes us live a double life.

> > If one is able to overcome this, others impure thoughts can be eliminated

with consummate ease.

> >  

> > Thoughts? 

> >

> >

> > " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in a quiet

mind is adequate perception of the world. "

> >

> > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@ > wrote:

> >

> > MUTHUKUAMR VAIDYANATHAN <muthukuamrv@ >

> > Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite

needed to win God's grace?

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> > Monday, March 2, 2009, 10:10 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Really a good message. Thank you.

> > VMK

> >

> > --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Kishore Puvvada <pkishore (AT) hotmail (DOT) com>

> > [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Re: What is the primary requisite needed

to win God's grace?

> > om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com

> > Monday, March 2, 2009, 7:43 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear

> >

> > " Only in quiet waters things mirror themselves undistorted. Only in

> > a quiet mind is adequate perception of the world. "

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Kishore Puvvada

> > Om Namah Shivaya

> >

>