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If panchaksharam "om Nama shivaya" (5 sylable) is given by a guru, then it is much more powerful.It is the highest of all shiva mantras.Aum.On 06-Feb-09, at 9:50 PM, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan wrote:

 

Simple recitation of "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA" mantra with bhakti and love is enough to invoke the lord. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath > wrote:

suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath > Invoking Lord Shiva Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 7:44 AM

 

 

Dear Group,How to invoke Lord Shiva? Especially his "saral rupa" ?Please advise.ThanksSuchitra

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Aum,There are time tested ways using which onecan find his/her guru. If the search for guru is done in the previous birththen one will find his/her guru faster byGuru's/God's grace in the present orfuture birth.Finding a sat-guru is much more tough,as sat-guru himself is a incarnation ofnone other than almighty himself.There are temples in south india whichwill help the guru seekers to attain theirultimate search for a true guru.Every living being has a guru. It is theresponsibility of the living being toinitiate the search for their guru. Thisis the (should be the) ultimate aim ofbirth. Only through guru one can attainLiberation, dharshan(vision) of

god and can experience, understand parabrahma tattvam(concept).By guru's grace, if the seeking ends andGod's grace is upon you,  you'll end up witha guru or guru will come to you. Aum Gurupyo namah Aum. On 07-Feb-09, at 10:00 AM, Corbin Israfael <corbinisrafael wrote:

 

 The power of the Mantra lies in the strength of ones Devotion and Bhakti to the Lord. The True Guru is Shiva Himself approach him in reverence with hymns of his mantra sung in awe until you realize that Shiva and You are one in the same and never have been seperate uttering 'Shivoham' in Realization.I would one day love to find a Guru and travel the land of India as a Sadhu but until that day I study as the Divine sees fit to guide me too as I seek a way toward my goal and follow in the steps of my favorite philosopher: Swami Vivekananda.~NamasteOmtatsat <zen_in_trance > Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40:28 AMRe: Invoking Lord Shiva

 

If panchaksharam "om Nama shivaya" (5 sylable) is given by a guru, then it is much more powerful.It is the highest of all shiva mantras.Aum.On 06-Feb-09, at 9:50 PM, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote:

 

Simple recitation of "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA" mantra with bhakti and love is enough to invoke the lord. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ > wrote:

suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shivaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, February 6, 2009, 7:44 AM

 

 

Dear Group,How to invoke Lord Shiva? Especially his "saral rupa" ?Please advise.ThanksSuchitra

 

 

 

 

 

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--A very good question for recent timr/period. Invoking can be done

with so many things and ways, the primary condition is that one

should be a true Bhakta or devotee of the Lord.

Methods;_

(a) Live bhavnatmacillay with the lord.

(b) Chanting of various mantras of the lord,in my humble opinion

shiv panchaskar mantra is one of the best and easy mantra in the

world, (and second, in my opinion is Jain Navkar mantra,these

mantras have prayers to do good to the universe,even some shakti

mantras have the same quality,some mantras/prayers of other religion

also) these all has one thing common in them, they do invoke shiva

tatwa through it, whether they are devotees of the lord or not, they

do the karma-(mental), which pleases the lord and helps in

invocation of his energies, he is everywhere nd everyday, just

prepareourself and call/invoke him and feel his energies in a

numerous ways.

Om Tat Sat.

 

ON ShivMahimn Stotra/shiv tandav stotra are also a powerful tools to

invoke the Lord's energies.

-OM Namah Shivay//// LET THE SHIV TATWA PREVAIL IN THE UNIVERSE

 

, " suchitra_kamath "

<suchitra_kamath wrote:

>

> Dear Group,

>

> How to invoke Lord Shiva? Especially his " saral rupa " ?

>

> Please advise.

>

> Thanks

> Suchitra

>

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I take the words of Swami Vivekananda quite seriously as I feel that at this time in the world so many variations and built up socio-economic problems are converging that this age seems destined to potential ruin or a new birth for the world as we shift from cycle to cycle:"My faith is in the younger generation, in the modern generation, out of them will come my workers. They will work out the whole problem, like lions.Interview in Madras Times. Chennai, February 1897. Complete Works, 5.223."I have taken as if by my nature to the Advaita Vedanta School of Philosophy which leaves little room for differentiation between Brahman and Individualized Jiva's. I am a thoroughly modern man with great

understanding of even advanced sciences and each time I learn it becomes more apparent the ancient truths sung by yogis for thousands of years. Also there is great calm and knowing in the depths of my being that I need only find a way to venture forth into the land from which my spirit has once before roamed and a Guru shall find me before I ever find them. However I am called to Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh and to Benares Hindu University where I shall seek certification as a practitioner of Ayurvedic Medicine and Sciences. That is where I shall begin my journey...that is where I hear the Lord calling me most fierce so it is there I shall be reborn in the Flames of Shiva that burn the Ego to ash...P.S. I am sorry for my odd style of expression and for the seemingly disoriented rambling. However at times I merely wish to ease my mind by speaking to others of like mind so that which burdens my mind can be lessened by relating it to

others.Omtatsat <zen_in_trance Cc: Saturday, February 7, 2009 3:50:11 AMRe: Invoking Lord Shiva

 

Aum,There are time tested ways using which onecan find his/her guru. If the search for guru is done in the previous birththen one will find his/her guru faster byGuru's/God's grace in the present orfuture birth.Finding a sat-guru is much more tough,as sat-guru himself is a incarnation ofnone other than almighty himself.There are temples in south india whichwill help the guru seekers to attain theirultimate search for a true guru.Every living being has a guru. It is theresponsibility of the living being toinitiate the search for their guru. Thisis the (should be the) ultimate aim ofbirth. Only through guru one can attainLiberation, dharshan(vision) of

god and can experience, understand parabrahma tattvam(concept) .By guru's grace, if the seeking ends andGod's grace is upon you, you'll end up witha guru or guru will come to you. Aum Gurupyo namah Aum. On 07-Feb-09, at 10:00 AM, Corbin Israfael <corbinisrafael@ > wrote:

 

The power of the Mantra lies in the strength of ones Devotion and Bhakti to the Lord. The True Guru is Shiva Himself approach him in reverence with hymns of his mantra sung in awe until you realize that Shiva and You are one in the same and never have been seperate uttering 'Shivoham' in Realization.I would one day love to find a Guru and travel the land of India as a Sadhu but until that day I study as the Divine sees fit to guide me too as I seek a way toward my goal and follow in the steps of my favorite philosopher: Swami Vivekananda.~NamasteOmtatsat <zen_in_trance@ >"om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com" <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40:28 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shiva

 

If panchaksharam "om Nama shivaya" (5 sylable) is given by a guru, then it is much more powerful.It is the highest of all shiva mantras.Aum.On 06-Feb-09, at 9:50 PM, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote:

 

Simple recitation of "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA" mantra with bhakti and love is enough to invoke the lord. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ > wrote:

suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shivaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, February 6, 2009, 7:44 AM

 

 

Dear Group,How to invoke Lord Shiva? Especially his "saral rupa" ?Please advise.ThanksSuchitra

 

 

 

 

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Dear Sir,

 

your thoughts reflecct great wisdom, can you please share on the Ayurvedic course you are doing.

 

thanks,

Divakar. --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Corbin Israfael <corbinisrafael wrote:

Corbin Israfael <corbinisrafaelRe: Invoking Lord Shiva Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 5:39 PM

 

 

 

 

I take the words of Swami Vivekananda quite seriously as I feel that at this time in the world so many variations and built up socio-economic problems are converging that this age seems destined to potential ruin or a new birth for the world as we shift from cycle to cycle:"My faith is in the younger generation, in the modern generation, out of them will come my workers. They will work out the whole problem, like lions.Interview in Madras Times. Chennai, February 1897. Complete Works, 5.223."I have taken as if by my nature to the Advaita Vedanta School of Philosophy which leaves little room for differentiation between Brahman and Individualized Jiva's. I am a thoroughly modern man with great understanding of even advanced sciences and each time I learn it becomes more apparent the ancient truths sung by yogis for thousands of years. Also there is

great calm and knowing in the depths of my being that I need only find a way to venture forth into the land from which my spirit has once before roamed and a Guru shall find me before I ever find them. However I am called to Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh and to Benares Hindu University where I shall seek certification as a practitioner of Ayurvedic Medicine and Sciences. That is where I shall begin my journey...that is where I hear the Lord calling me most fierce so it is there I shall be reborn in the Flames of Shiva that burn the Ego to ash...P.S. I am sorry for my odd style of expression and for the seemingly disoriented rambling. However at times I merely wish to ease my mind by speaking to others of like mind so that which burdens my mind can be lessened by relating it to others.

 

 

Omtatsat <zen_in_trance@ >"om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com" <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Cc: "om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com" <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Saturday, February 7, 2009 3:50:11 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shiva

 

 

Aum,

 

There are time tested ways using which one

can find his/her guru. If the search

for guru is done in the previous birth

then one will find his/her guru faster by

Guru's/God's grace in the present or

future birth.

 

Finding a sat-guru is much more tough,

as sat-guru himself is a incarnation of

none other than almighty himself.

 

There are temples in south india which

will help the guru seekers to attain their

ultimate search for a true guru.

 

Every living being has a guru. It is the

responsibility of the living being to

initiate the search for their guru. This

is the (should be the) ultimate aim of

birth. Only through guru one can attain

Liberation, dharshan(vision) of god

and can experience, understand

parabrahma tattvam(concept) .

 

By guru's grace, if the seeking ends and

God's grace is upon you,

you'll end up with

a guru or guru will come to you.

 

Aum Gurupyo namah

 

Aum.

 

 

On 07-Feb-09, at 10:00 AM, Corbin Israfael <corbinisrafael@ > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

The power of the Mantra lies in the strength of ones Devotion and Bhakti to the Lord. The True Guru is Shiva Himself approach him in reverence with hymns of his mantra sung in awe until you realize that Shiva and You are one in the same and never have been seperate uttering 'Shivoham' in Realization.I would one day love to find a Guru and travel the land of India as a Sadhu but until that day I study as the Divine sees fit to guide me too as I seek a way toward my goal and follow in the steps of my favorite philosopher: Swami Vivekananda.~Namaste

 

 

 

Omtatsat <zen_in_trance@ >"om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com" <om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com>Friday, February 6, 2009 11:40:28 AMRe: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shiva

 

 

If panchaksharam "om Nama shivaya"

(5 sylable) is given

by a guru, then it is much more

powerful.

 

It is the highest of all shiva mantras.

 

 

Aum.

On 06-Feb-09, at 9:50 PM, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan > wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Simple recitation of "OM NAMAH SHIVAYA" mantra with bhakti and love is enough to invoke the lord. --- On Fri, 2/6/09, suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ > wrote:

suchitra_kamath <suchitra_kamath@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Invoking Lord Shivaom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comFriday, February 6, 2009, 7:44 AM

 

 

Dear Group,How to invoke Lord Shiva? Especially his "saral rupa" ?Please advise.ThanksSuchitra

 

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I am not from India yet I feel it is more my home than any other place on this earth without my ever setting foot upon it in my current form. It is hard to relate the simple state of knowing that accompanies this but I know it to be true merely for the fact that it is...no other reason is needed by me as it is beyond my current state of realization to attempt to decipher the divine's will with the limited conciousness of one incarnated in flesh.I don't mind starting a new thread if you give me a place to begin my discourse. Just ask of me any question and I shall answer to the best of my ability. While I am not Indian by genetic descent and not Hindu by way of birth or training...I would like to be so...it is

the ultimate ideal for me to perhaps by chance or fate to encounter Kali Ma in the form of a Indian Noble Woman of Brahmanic Lineage to marry and experience the traditional experience of a Vedic Philosopher and Wandering Ascetic.However enough about that...once I am provided with a good starting point then I shall start a separate discourse/discussion.Indian Rediff <indianrediff. Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 6:02:14 AMRe: Invoking Lord

Shiva

 

Absolutely fascinating to read your e-mail. Are we to assume that you

are not from India and not a Hindu and yet have heard of Advaita

Vedanta? If so, could you please start a new thread and let us know

about it?

 

With many thanks for the wake up call,h

 

Indian Rediff (Sai)

 

On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Corbin Israfael

<corbinisrafael@ > wrote:

> I take the words of Swami Vivekananda quite seriously as I feel that at this

> time in the world so many variations and built up socio-economic problems

> are converging that this age seems destined to potential ruin or a new birth

> for the world as we shift from cycle to cycle:

>

> "My faith is in the younger generation, in the modern generation, out of

> them will come my workers. They will work out the whole problem, like lions.

>

> Interview in Madras Times. Chennai, February 1897. Complete Works, 5.223."

>

> I have taken as if by my nature to the Advaita Vedanta School of Philosophy

> which leaves little room for differentiation between Brahman and

> Individualized Jiva's. I am a thoroughly modern man with great understanding

> of even advanced sciences and each time I learn it becomes more apparent the

> ancient truths sung by yogis for thousands of years. Also there is great

> calm and knowing in the depths of my being that I need only find a way to

> venture forth into the land from which my spirit has once before roamed and

> a Guru shall find me before I ever find them.

>

> However I am called to Varanasi in Uttar Pradesh and to Benares Hindu

> University where I shall seek certification as a practitioner of Ayurvedic

> Medicine and Sciences. That is where I shall begin my journey...that is

> where I hear the Lord calling me most fierce so it is there I shall be

> reborn in the Flames of Shiva that burn the Ego to ash...

>

> P.S. I am sorry for my odd style of expression and for the seemingly

> disoriented rambling. However at times I merely wish to ease my mind by

> speaking to others of like mind so that which burdens my mind can be

> lessened by relating it to others.

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Corbinisrafael, congratulations on your insight. Swamy Vivekananda

was my first inspiration. His words grab me by the heart and leave me

unable to hide behind illusion.

 

You're right, there's no alternative to effort. We have to find our

own path. Bhakti, effort and patience are three qualities of a true

Saadhak.

 

Methodology and process is secondary. In fact if the three qualities

are developed strongly enough - NOTHING else is needed - This I

believe. We follow the paths and the processes in order to develop

these three attributes. Other than that the name of this group is the

only Mantra we need:)

 

Rgds

, Corbin Israfael

<corbinisrafael wrote:

>

> I follow no course but my own heart as I believe it should be.

Study as your heart guides you and working unselfishly and knowledge

will find you before you seek it out consciously, being guided by the

Divine towards the goal of lending a helping hand to your fellow

incarnate beings. Just as Swami Vivekananda adamantly said he came

not to convert anyone or change their beliefs but rather to

illuminate the Inner Divinity of All Mankind so that you become a

better person regardless of your chosen faith. Form and Function

merely obscure the true meaning of things by hiding them in the

tremendous veil of Maya that pervades this world causing one to

perceive themselves separate from the world rather than one with it.

>

> I have not started my study of Ayurveda formally however I want to

one day graduate with a BAMS Degree from BHU.

>

>

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Indeed. His is a Living, Breathing Vedanta that almost seems to speak to me as though the words were as fresh as the day he spoke them. While I may not have an incarnate guru, I look to him as an example and an ideal for myself so he is my Guru in spirit and perhaps one day I may aspire to do but a fraction of the great work he did...or at least I would like too.satishvijayan

<no_reply > Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 9:22:46 AM Re: Invoking Lord Shiva

 

Corbinisrafael, congratulations on your insight. Swamy Vivekananda

was my first inspiration. His words grab me by the heart and leave me

unable to hide behind illusion.

 

You're right, there's no alternative to effort. We have to find our

own path. Bhakti, effort and patience are three qualities of a true

Saadhak.

 

Methodology and process is secondary. In fact if the three qualities

are developed strongly enough - NOTHING else is needed - This I

believe. We follow the paths and the processes in order to develop

these three attributes. Other than that the name of this group is the

only Mantra we need:)

 

Rgds

om_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.com, Corbin Israfael

<corbinisrafael@ ...> wrote:

>

> I follow no course but my own heart as I believe it should be.

Study as your heart guides you and working unselfishly and knowledge

will find you before you seek it out consciously, being guided by the

Divine towards the goal of lending a helping hand to your fellow

incarnate beings. Just as Swami Vivekananda adamantly said he came

not to convert anyone or change their beliefs but rather to

illuminate the Inner Divinity of All Mankind so that you become a

better person regardless of your chosen faith. Form and Function

merely obscure the true meaning of things by hiding them in the

tremendous veil of Maya that pervades this world causing one to

perceive themselves separate from the world rather than one with it.

>

> I have not started my study of Ayurveda formally however I want to

one day graduate with a BAMS Degree from BHU.

>

>

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