Guest guest Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Om Namah Sivaya Dear All, I wish to comment on the recent discussion regarding the two major aspects of Hinduism. Discussions are important for us to maintain and improve our knowledge and perception with a view of becoming better people and thus better devotees. We who believe strongly in our principles must adhere to and practice our belief vehemently. However, we must also accept and respect other people who equally believe in another set of principles. We must, as much as we strive to become a better devotee, I believe, that we must also encourage the other person to also be a better devotee in his belief. I am an Indian practicing Hinduism in Malaysia. I am a Saivite. Indians are the minority people here. Majority among the Indians are Tamil speaking people. Yet, I have seen Vaisnavites and Saivites arguing with each other for supremacy. The irony in Malaysia is as follows. In Malaysia, there is only one government radio station for Indians. As such the radio station broadcasts Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Telugu and other dialect songs. It also broadcasts Hindu and Muslim programmes because some of the Indians are Muslims and there are no other radio stations for them. In this situation, I find it bewildering that some Hindus are arguing about the supremacy of one sect over the other when the religion itself is tolerant. I have never been to India but this is what I know of Bharatam. Historically, the Hindus in India have given refuge and protected religious devotees from outside India who were Jews, Bahais and Zorats (forgot the spelling). These are foreign religions that Hinduism can tolerate. If this is the case, then do you think that Hinduism cannot accept her own sects - Saivites, Vaisnavites and Shaktas. The Vedas, which I do not know much of, declares that " There is only ONE God; but sages call him by different names " . I read this from the " Glories of Shaivaism " book authored by S. Shivapadasundram – an eminent Saivite and former principal of Victoria College in Sri Lanka. He elevates Lord Shiva and Shaivaism but never utters a single ridicule against other sects or religions. These are trying times for Hinduism. In India, Hinduism is being undermined by other religions and by her own Hindu politicians. (I will give a classic example in another e-mail to this group). In foreign lands, Hinduism is still not accepted as a religion but is described as a barbaric practice although many inroads are being made by many teachers. Next is my personal observation of the activities of a Satguru and his group of monks in Hawaii. Earlier, the Satguru formed the Saiva Siddhanta Church and used computers and free magazines to capture the world and bring Shaivaism to the world. Now the current guru and the same dedicated group of monks operate the Kauai's Hindu Monastery and their various entities like the Himalaya Academy. Their magazine, Hinduism Today, gives equal coverage to all sects although the Satgurus and the monks are Saivites. The Satguru does not talk of supremacy of one sect over the other but of the supremacy of Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma over all other religions. Why can't we take the example set by these gurus who walked on this world recently or who are still walking on this world as an example? To Dr Sastry, please do not get emotional or shed any tears as our religion is very resilient due to it's all encompassing principles and " thatuvams " . The works of a thousand sages are there to fight for and defend our religion. To you sir, I say don't be distracted but continue generating e-mail after e-mail to spread the knowledge of this religion to people like me. Regards… Sivanesan. Anbe Sivam Om Sivaya Namaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Dear Sivanesan avl, Bhakti is eternal. Now only there is contentment for my efforts in collecting some data and putting up in a serial manner and sending to the holy groups. See You are in Malaysia. You are practicing Hinduism! Why? That is the holiness of this religion. May God bless you. All that I am sending is only a revision to most of the elders. My ambition is that all our youngsters should know the depth of our sacred religion and follow the Sanatana Dharma. If I succeed in my efforts, I am blessed. With love and regards, Sastry--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah wrote: Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah Hinduism And It's Different Aspects Date: Sunday, October 19, 2008, 10:29 AM Om Namah SivayaDear All,I wish to comment on the recent discussion regarding the two major aspects of Hinduism. Discussions are important for us to maintain and improve our knowledge and perception with a view of becoming better people and thus better devotees.We who believe strongly in our principles must adhere to and practice our belief vehemently. However, we must also accept and respect other people who equally believe in another set of principles. We must, as much as we strive to become a better devotee, I believe, that we must also encourage the other person to also be a better devotee in his belief.I am an Indian practicing Hinduism in Malaysia. I am a Saivite. Indians are the minority people here. Majority among the Indians are Tamil speaking people. Yet, I have seen Vaisnavites and Saivites arguing with each other for supremacy.The irony in Malaysia is as follows. In Malaysia, there is only one government radio station for Indians. As such the radio station broadcasts Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Telugu and other dialect songs. It also broadcasts Hindu and Muslim programmes because some of the Indians are Muslims and there are no other radio stations for them. In this situation, I find it bewildering that some Hindus are arguing about the supremacy of one sect over the other when the religion itself is tolerant.I have never been to India but this is what I know of Bharatam. Historically, the Hindus in India have given refuge and protected religious devotees from outside India who were Jews, Bahais and Zorats (forgot the spelling). These are foreign religions that Hinduism can tolerate. If this is the case, then do you think that Hinduism cannot accept her own sects - Saivites, Vaisnavites and Shaktas.The Vedas, which I do not know much of, declares that "There is only ONE God; but sages call him by different names". I read this from the "Glories of Shaivaism" book authored by S. Shivapadasundram – an eminent Saivite and former principal of Victoria College in Sri Lanka. He elevates Lord Shiva and Shaivaism but never utters a single ridicule against other sects or religions.These are trying times for Hinduism. In India, Hinduism is being undermined by other religions and by her own Hindu politicians. (I will give a classic example in another e-mail to this group). In foreign lands, Hinduism is still not accepted as a religion but is described as a barbaric practice although many inroads are being made by many teachers. Next is my personal observation of the activities of a Satguru and his group of monks in Hawaii. Earlier, the Satguru formed the Saiva Siddhanta Church and used computers and free magazines to capture the world and bring Shaivaism to the world. Now the current guru and the same dedicated group of monks operate the Kauai's Hindu Monastery and their various entities like the Himalaya Academy. Their magazine, Hinduism Today, gives equal coverage to all sects although the Satgurus and the monks are Saivites. The Satguru does not talk of supremacy of one sect over the other but of the supremacy of Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma over all other religions.Why can't we take the example set by these gurus who walked on this world recently or who are still walking on this world as an example?To Dr Sastry, please do not get emotional or shed any tears as our religion is very resilient due to it's all encompassing principles and "thatuvams". The works of a thousand sages are there to fight for and defend our religion. To you sir, I say don't be distracted but continue generating e-mail after e-mail to spread the knowledge of this religion to people like me.Regards… Sivanesan.Anbe SivamOm Sivaya Namaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Dear Sastry garu, you are doing a great job in spreading the knowledge of hindu dharma and spirituality, your collection and wisdom is very simple to understand and has valuable message, Please continute to share this wisdom which is true and ultimate, this simple knowledge and wisdom is the essense and end of all practices. May lord shiva bless you with highest consciousness and shakti to carry out your endeavours. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry wrote: Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastryRe: Hinduism And It's Different Aspects Cc: sivanesannadarajahDate: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:23 AM Dear Sivanesan avl, Bhakti is eternal. Now only there is contentment for my efforts in collecting some data and putting up in a serial manner and sending to the holy groups. See You are in Malaysia. You are practicing Hinduism! Why? That is the holiness of this religion. May God bless you. All that I am sending is only a revision to most of the elders. My ambition is that all our youngsters should know the depth of our sacred religion and follow the Sanatana Dharma. If I succeed in my efforts, I am blessed. With love and regards, Sastry--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah@ > wrote: Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Hinduism And It's Different Aspectsom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSunday, October 19, 2008, 10:29 AM Om Namah SivayaDear All,I wish to comment on the recent discussion regarding the two major aspects of Hinduism. Discussions are important for us to maintain and improve our knowledge and perception with a view of becoming better people and thus better devotees.We who believe strongly in our principles must adhere to and practice our belief vehemently. However, we must also accept and respect other people who equally believe in another set of principles. We must, as much as we strive to become a better devotee, I believe, that we must also encourage the other person to also be a better devotee in his belief.I am an Indian practicing Hinduism in Malaysia. I am a Saivite. Indians are the minority people here. Majority among the Indians are Tamil speaking people. Yet, I have seen Vaisnavites and Saivites arguing with each other for supremacy.The irony in Malaysia is as follows. In Malaysia, there is only one government radio station for Indians. As such the radio station broadcasts Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Telugu and other dialect songs. It also broadcasts Hindu and Muslim programmes because some of the Indians are Muslims and there are no other radio stations for them. In this situation, I find it bewildering that some Hindus are arguing about the supremacy of one sect over the other when the religion itself is tolerant.I have never been to India but this is what I know of Bharatam. Historically, the Hindus in India have given refuge and protected religious devotees from outside India who were Jews, Bahais and Zorats (forgot the spelling). These are foreign religions that Hinduism can tolerate. If this is the case, then do you think that Hinduism cannot accept her own sects - Saivites, Vaisnavites and Shaktas.The Vedas, which I do not know much of, declares that "There is only ONE God; but sages call him by different names". I read this from the "Glories of Shaivaism" book authored by S. Shivapadasundram – an eminent Saivite and former principal of Victoria College in Sri Lanka. He elevates Lord Shiva and Shaivaism but never utters a single ridicule against other sects or religions.These are trying times for Hinduism. In India, Hinduism is being undermined by other religions and by her own Hindu politicians. (I will give a classic example in another e-mail to this group). In foreign lands, Hinduism is still not accepted as a religion but is described as a barbaric practice although many inroads are being made by many teachers. Next is my personal observation of the activities of a Satguru and his group of monks in Hawaii. Earlier, the Satguru formed the Saiva Siddhanta Church and used computers and free magazines to capture the world and bring Shaivaism to the world. Now the current guru and the same dedicated group of monks operate the Kauai's Hindu Monastery and their various entities like the Himalaya Academy. Their magazine, Hinduism Today, gives equal coverage to all sects although the Satgurus and the monks are Saivites. The Satguru does not talk of supremacy of one sect over the other but of the supremacy of Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma over all other religions.Why can't we take the example set by these gurus who walked on this world recently or who are still walking on this world as an example?To Dr Sastry, please do not get emotional or shed any tears as our religion is very resilient due to it's all encompassing principles and "thatuvams". The works of a thousand sages are there to fight for and defend our religion. To you sir, I say don't be distracted but continue generating e-mail after e-mail to spread the knowledge of this religion to people like me.Regards… Sivanesan.Anbe SivamOm Sivaya Namaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Dear Divakar, Bhakti is eternal. I am now blessed by Lord Siva. With love and regards, Sastry --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Divakara Tanjore <div_tan wrote: Divakara Tanjore <div_tanRe: Hinduism And It's Different Aspects Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 4:58 PM Dear Sastry garu, you are doing a great job in spreading the knowledge of hindu dharma and spirituality, your collection and wisdom is very simple to understand and has valuable message, Please continute to share this wisdom which is true and ultimate, this simple knowledge and wisdom is the essense and end of all practices. May lord shiva bless you with highest consciousness and shakti to carry out your endeavours. Om Namah Shivaya, Divakar. --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com> wrote: Dr.B.G.Y Sastry <drbgysastry@ grouply.com>Re: [om_namah_shivaya_ group] Hinduism And It's Different Aspectsom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comCc: sivanesannadarajah@ Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 10:23 AM Dear Sivanesan avl, Bhakti is eternal. Now only there is contentment for my efforts in collecting some data and putting up in a serial manner and sending to the holy groups. See You are in Malaysia. You are practicing Hinduism! Why? That is the holiness of this religion. May God bless you. All that I am sending is only a revision to most of the elders. My ambition is that all our youngsters should know the depth of our sacred religion and follow the Sanatana Dharma. If I succeed in my efforts, I am blessed. With love and regards, Sastry--- On Sun, 10/19/08, Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah@ > wrote: Sivanesan <sivanesannadarajah@ >[om_namah_shivaya_ group] Hinduism And It's Different Aspectsom_namah_shivaya_ group@ s.comSunday, October 19, 2008, 10:29 AM Om Namah SivayaDear All,I wish to comment on the recent discussion regarding the two major aspects of Hinduism. Discussions are important for us to maintain and improve our knowledge and perception with a view of becoming better people and thus better devotees.We who believe strongly in our principles must adhere to and practice our belief vehemently. However, we must also accept and respect other people who equally believe in another set of principles. We must, as much as we strive to become a better devotee, I believe, that we must also encourage the other person to also be a better devotee in his belief.I am an Indian practicing Hinduism in Malaysia. I am a Saivite. Indians are the minority people here. Majority among the Indians are Tamil speaking people. Yet, I have seen Vaisnavites and Saivites arguing with each other for supremacy.The irony in Malaysia is as follows. In Malaysia, there is only one government radio station for Indians. As such the radio station broadcasts Tamil, Hindi, Malayalam, Telugu and other dialect songs. It also broadcasts Hindu and Muslim programmes because some of the Indians are Muslims and there are no other radio stations for them. In this situation, I find it bewildering that some Hindus are arguing about the supremacy of one sect over the other when the religion itself is tolerant.I have never been to India but this is what I know of Bharatam. Historically, the Hindus in India have given refuge and protected religious devotees from outside India who were Jews, Bahais and Zorats (forgot the spelling). These are foreign religions that Hinduism can tolerate. If this is the case, then do you think that Hinduism cannot accept her own sects - Saivites, Vaisnavites and Shaktas.The Vedas, which I do not know much of, declares that "There is only ONE God; but sages call him by different names". I read this from the "Glories of Shaivaism" book authored by S. Shivapadasundram – an eminent Saivite and former principal of Victoria College in Sri Lanka. He elevates Lord Shiva and Shaivaism but never utters a single ridicule against other sects or religions.These are trying times for Hinduism. In India, Hinduism is being undermined by other religions and by her own Hindu politicians. (I will give a classic example in another e-mail to this group). In foreign lands, Hinduism is still not accepted as a religion but is described as a barbaric practice although many inroads are being made by many teachers. Next is my personal observation of the activities of a Satguru and his group of monks in Hawaii. Earlier, the Satguru formed the Saiva Siddhanta Church and used computers and free magazines to capture the world and bring Shaivaism to the world. Now the current guru and the same dedicated group of monks operate the Kauai's Hindu Monastery and their various entities like the Himalaya Academy. Their magazine, Hinduism Today, gives equal coverage to all sects although the Satgurus and the monks are Saivites. The Satguru does not talk of supremacy of one sect over the other but of the supremacy of Hinduism and Sanatana Dharma over all other religions.Why can't we take the example set by these gurus who walked on this world recently or who are still walking on this world as an example?To Dr Sastry, please do not get emotional or shed any tears as our religion is very resilient due to it's all encompassing principles and "thatuvams". The works of a thousand sages are there to fight for and defend our religion. To you sir, I say don't be distracted but continue generating e-mail after e-mail to spread the knowledge of this religion to people like me.Regards… Sivanesan.Anbe SivamOm Sivaya Namaha____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ __ http://mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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