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when you insult a saivite you insult

Lord Shiva

when you insult a vaisnavite

you still insult Lord shiva

when you insult a muslim

you do insult Lord Shiva

when you insult a tree

.... yet again you insult lord shiva.

when you insult a rock

....... you insult Lord Shiva

when you insult yourself

.... of course you insult Lord Shiva

 

moral of story , nobody

is qualified to insult anybody....

and those who are qualified

, will never insult anybody ....

 

 

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Dear All

 

With Due respect to Venkata Krishnan, it is

inappropriate to be in Om Namah Shivaya Group and speak ill about Lord

Shiva.

 

I request you please unsubsribe and make peace

in yourselves.

 

N.Ranganathan B.E, C.Eng,

FISE, PGDBM

Senior Electrical Engineer

Doha

 

--- On Wed, 10/8/08, venkata krishnan <bcvk71

wrote:

venkata krishnan <bcvk71

Re: Re: Why Vaishnavites

insult Shaivtes

, " BCVENKATAKRISHNANNewsListgroup "

<bcvenkatakrishnannewslist >

Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 6:34 AM

 

 

Dear Vijji Bajji,

You are totally wrong and misinformed.Who told you that Ramanuja was a

Sivaite and Adi Sankara was a Saivite.Ramanuja's first Guru was Yadavaprakasa

who was a BedaABeda Acharya and who was a exponent of Advaita who

was also a Vaishnavite.Later on Ramanuja became the follower of Alavandar

who was a Great Scholar of Sri Vaishnavism.Ramanuja was always a Vaishnava.The

only change in his life was that he was a mere Vaishnava by birth who later

on converted to Srivaishnavism after becomming the followe of Alavandar.Adi Sankara

was also a Vaishnava.The only difference being that in their philosophy.

The philosophy of Naadamuni was Visishtaadvaita and that of Gaudapada was

Advaita.Gaudapada was the Acharya of Adi Saankara.Even today in Kanchi

Sankara \Matam for all official purposes the Samkaraacharya signs only

as OM NAMO NAARAAYANAAYA and not Nassivaaya.According to Vedas LORD NAARAAYANA

is the Supreme Brahman.And all the Vedantins accept that.According to Vedas

there are 11 RUDRAS.And the Naayanmaars combined the 11Rudras as one God

and christained that God as Siva.Saivism originated only after the advent

of Naayanmaars and there was no God called Siva before the Naayanmaars

there was only Rudra.The Lord SANKARA is the first among the 11 Ridras

according to Vedas and he is the son of Brahma an d Brahma is the son of

PARABRAHMAN LORD NAARAAYANA according to Vedas.The later Advaitins betrayed

Adi Sankara and began to follow a new philosophy saying All Gods are one

and only their names are different which againszt the original Advaitam

established by Adi Sankara.Saivism is against Vedas by claimimg mythical

God Siva is the Supreme Brahman a nd not LORD NAARAAYANA.And many of the

Saivaites equate Lord Siva with Lord VISHNU and LORD BRAHMA and sayall

the 3 are same which is against VEDAS.So, Saivism is a Nastika Religion

which does not accept the authority of Vedas.Assuming the current Advaitaacharyas

wrong inerpretation of Adi Sankara itszelf as the philosophy of Saivasm

and Saakthaism , the Saivaites philosophy is Secularism and their claim

that Vaishnavas should follow their Philosophy and ideology does not hold

water.Since, Advaitam is not the philosophy of Vaishnavites and Visishtaaddvaitam

is the Philosophy of Srivaishnavism.Sorry if I had wounded anyones

wrong beliefs in the forumby posting the truths.Vedas are the ultimate.It

is the only PRAMAANA.

B.C.VENKATAKRISHNAN.

website: www.vedascience.com

 

genghis1291 <genghis

Re: Why Vaishnavites

insult Shaivtes

 

Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 8:46 AM

 

There is a lot of misinformation about the beliefs on

either side

contributing to the superficial tensions...In the mix

are:

 

1. The Purusha Suktam from the Rig Veda

 

2. The Brahma Sutra of Badrayana (like a commentary on

the Purusha

Suktam)

 

3. Adi Shankara and his commentary on the Brahma Sutra

 

4. Possible MIS-interpretations /extrapolations by the

naive on

Shankara's commentary - this apparently led to serious

intellectual and

moral degradation in Shaivite society in the 200 years

after Shankara

 

5. Ramanujacharya, a Shaivite-turned Vaishnavite who came

200 years

after Shankara and his commentary on the Brahma Sutra.

The naive among

Shaivites claim Ramanuja refuted Shankara...he did no

such thing...in

fact, he relied very heavily on Shankara's work,; he also

went to the

FULL original of the Brahma Sutra (not the abridged 4-page

version

relied on by Shankara and others in his time) and has

categorically

stated that he provided further clarity on Shankara's

work.

 

If people are interested in this topic, I will provide

a brief overview

later

 

Genghis

 

om_namah_shivaya_

group@ s.com, mohan dadlani

<mohan_dadlani@ ...> wrote:

>

>

> In my view Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu are 2 sides

of the same coin.

> God is one, we humans can call in different names.

> It is not worthwhile to engage in any arguments on

this issue. Let

Hindus unite and not waste time and energy in unnecessary

arguments.

> Om Shant, Shanti, Shanti

>

>

>

> om_namah_shivaya_ group : bhatnagar_shailendr

a: Mon, 6 Oct

2008 15:27:48 +0000[om_namah_shivaya_ group]

Re: Why

Vaishnavites insult Shaivtes

>

>

>

>

> Om Namah SivayaNamaste, This is a sensitive topic

so it is better not

to discuss it. This one mantra from Kaivalya Upanishat

seals the matter

without controversy : sa brahmaa sa shivaH sendraH so.aksharaH

paramaH

svaraaT .sa eva vishhNuH sa praaNaH sa kaalo.agniH sa

chandramaaH

(Brahma, Shiv, Indra, Om, Vishnu, Prana, Kaal, Agni, Chandrama

etc are

all one - the absolute/OM/ infinity) .Secondly, there

can be only one

infinity. regards,Shailendra

>

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