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dear shivbhakt shailendra

om namo bhagawate rudraya

 

one reason why i start all my messages with " om namo bhagawate

rudraya " is because it is not only the beginning verse of the rudram

(namakam) but is also a great mantra in itself.

 

the observation of a righteous person facing material hardships and

enduring it too, is only because he is finishing all the punishments

for his past sins and the realised soul in him is hurrying to get

liberated aka salvation. happiness and misery, suffering and joy are

all states of mind related to the body and the soul or god (shiva)

within has no bearing or affect on these. an unrealised person under

maya feels that the comforts and happiness to the outward body are

the gifts of god and the sufferings as sins and curses. however, the

realised person sees the shiva in himself and by taking refuge at the

lotus feet of lord shiva and praying to lord shiva, the native is

only seeking lord shiva to aim his arrows at the maya clouded on him

and get him closer to lord shiva where lord shiva's arrows do not

harm the native as he is as close to shiva as shiva himself.

 

however, for a self realised or enlightened person, the comforts of

body and the states of mind are maya and such divine soul is only

interested in aligning and merging with the shiva in him and

experience the eternal bliss. if you read viveka choodamani and

atmabodha of adi shankara, you would get more understanding of the

body, mind and soul and the shiva within.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

, " bhatnagar_shailendra "

<bhatnagar_shailendra wrote:

>

> [sri Selva said]

> A sincere devotee will suffer a lot, because he is hurrying up

in

> the spiritual march. Many of his evil Karmas have to be worked out

and

> purged out quickly to hasten his salvation in this very birth. But,

> God gives him extraordinary power of endurance through His grace.

But

> he rejoices even in sufferings and destitution on account of the

> descent of the Lord's grace. He voluntarily welcomes these

sufferings!

> [End of quote]

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

> Dear Sri Selva, Your statements above are probably true but there

is

> another thing to consider here. If somebody, sincerely chants the

Sri

> Rudram (there are specific verses which give specific results) the

> sins are destroyed. When we approach Sri Bhagawan Rudra, we pray

that

> he should not direct his arrows at us. Now, what are these arrows ?

> The interpretation that I have read (by an Advaita Acharya Swami

> Dayananda of arsha vidya gurukulam) is that these arrows are

nothing

> but karmaphala coming in the form of discomforts, problems and

pain.

> So Rudra is the chastiser. It is said that you can look at Sri

Rudra

> in 2 ways - in his Rudra form he eventually makes you cry(pay for

your

> sins) and in his Shiva form he removes the sorrow of samsara. So he

is

> the cause of sorrow and also removes them.

> I read that chanting the very first verse of Sri Rudram (the one

> following Om Namo Bhagwate Rudraya), while circumbulating the Lord

> destroys sins.

> I would like to hear from the experts on this topic.

> regards,

> Shailendra

>

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>an unrealised person under

> maya feels that the comforts and happiness to the outward body are

> the gifts of god and the sufferings as sins and curses. however,

the

> realised person sees the shiva in himself and by taking refuge at

the

> lotus feet of lord shiva and praying to lord shiva, the native is

> only seeking lord shiva to aim his arrows at the maya clouded on him

> and get him closer to lord shiva where lord shiva's arrows do not

> harm the native as he is as close to shiva as shiva himself.

>

>

 

Om Namah Sivaya

Namaste Panditji,

I agree with you but a vast majority of people are full of deha-atman

buddhi i.e. this body-mind complex itself is the real self. In the

DeviSooktam, it is said that Devi is present in all beings as bhranti

roop ( " bhranti roopena samasthita " ). In Gita Chapter 7, Bhagavan says

that this maya is very difficult to cross " mam maya duratyaya ... " .

 

Some suffering is a must for inner growth - without suffering a person

does not make much progress but maybe there are some who don't suffer

in the sadhana.

 

with respects and regards,

Shailendra

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