RE: Saivism in Sri Lanka

July 18, 2007

Om Namah Sivaya Dear Sri Bhupendra, "Once upon a time, long time ago, what we know today as Sri Lanka was mainly Saiva....but they are all gone today. Their pacifist attitude was the reason for it....they never gacve a fight, took things as it came taking all as the will of god. A lot of knowledge about Saivism if lost today as a result. Who is to take responsibility for not protecting this knowledge and way of life?" I disagree with your above statement. Saivism is always alive is Sri Lanka. I myself was born and lived there until my age of 13. There are a large number of Hindu temples, Christian missionaries did demolish temples during 16th - 18th century

and built churches but by the grace of Lord Siva, Christianity was eventually overthrown by Hindus. In fact I heard the bad time started for the missionaries when they demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a church on it, the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed and all the builders and the missionary members who master minded the demolition of the temple were died of an unknown disease. There are many Hindu Schools established by a Great Saivite Saint who masterminded and overthrew Christianity (form Hindu dominated areas in the country), I studied in one of them when I was a child, Hinduism is a compulsory subject and also there is an addition nationwide exam on Saivism that every Hindu student should take. Although

historically (history since 5 AD) the majority of the population (70%) are Buddhist who originally came from North India, the current trend is that in many Buddhist temples they have installed Saiva deities (mainly Lord Ganesha and Lord Subramanya). I would say most Buddhists are also Hindus. There is a most holiest place in Sri Lanka, a deeply mystical shrine dedicated to Lord Subramanya known as Kathirkama (this the most sacred temple of Lord Subramanya in this world), this shrine does not have a sculptural representation of the deity but has a big

Yantra box (this was given by Lord Subramanya to one of His devotees to built a temple at the location), even an strong elephant find it difficult to carry the Lords’ Yantra on its back during festival days. There is also a holy river flow at the exact location known as Manika Ganga and also Vibuti (Basma) is naturally grow on a hill nearby the shrine and is the holiest Basma in this world. Many great saints and sages also have visited the shrine from India since ancient time. According to the Skanda Maha Purana, this is the place commemorating the Emakudam or the Base Camp of Lord Skanda (Subramanya) and Deva (demi-god) soldiers, which He had pitched upon the outskirts of the capital of an Asura king Surapadma (This king had the power (as a boon) to live for108 yugas to rule a 1008 kingdoms and to be undefeatble even by the forces of Lord Vishnu) , Veeramahendrapuri. This city (Veeramahendrapuri) was

spread over seven islands around Sri Lanka and after the battle with the Asuras, Lord Subramanya made a huge tsunami and made those islands drowned into the ocean. And it is said that it is the place where the form of Lord Subrahmanya attained Oneness with Lord Siva in the form of a Jothi (Lord Subramanya who came from the Siva Jothi (via Lord Siva's third eye) reunited with the Siva Jothi in this place). This holy place is well look after by both Hindus and Buddhists. Many Buddhists people (including monks) make regular pilgrimage to the temple. Hundred of thousands of devotees participate during the festival days. On the other hand the Buddhists people are totally against activities of Christian missionaries in their country who covert their people, they find it totally offensive for an alien religion who pay no respect to their religion and their way of

living by converting people. They make demonstrations against the government for allowing them into their country and I even heard they often physically attack Christian missionaries' activities. I was fortunate to perform pujas and other services at 3 temples (Siva, Durga and Kali) own by our family form my age of 5 to 13 before I came to the UK. Although our family members are not in Sri Lanka now, we look after those temples, we recently installed new deities and arranged a priest to perform pujas , many local village people also participate in joint daily prayers. Many Hindu people fled their homeland due to the civil war in Sri Lanka but one good thing come out of the war, Sri Lankan Hindu people have built many Saiva temples ( strictly following the temple building rules prescribed in Saiva Agamas)

in nearly all European countries, Canada, America, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and other countries (my heart strongly feel that He is using us to build a foundation for reestablishing Saivism (for the benefit of matured souls) worldwide and my heart also feels that there are more great Saiva Saints to come and work towards it). A large percentage of these temples’ income is used to provide religious and other education to children and feeding poor people in Sri Lanka. A majority of children who are born abroad are taught Bharatanatyam (the dance of Lord Siva) or Miruthangam (the instrument play by Bagavan Nandi while Lord Siva dances). Many people also give donations to construct and renovate temples in their motherland. I would also like to say that no knowledge is lost as such; spiritual knowledge has been transmitted to worldwide. If you want have a good knowledge about Saivism then please read the three exceptional books (Dancing with Siva, Living with Siva and Merging with Siva) written by Satguru Sivaya Subramanyaswami whose Guru was Jnanaguru Siva Yogaswami from Sri Lanka (Subramanyaswami met his guru when he travelled to Sri Lanka from the USA and he attained Self-Realisation there and went back to the USA and founded a Hindu Monastery). His disciples most of them white Americans dedicate their live to serve the Lord through spreading the true spiritual message of Hinduism by publishing an exceptional magazine called ‘Hinduism Today’ every three months, this magazine represents all Hindu sects not just Saivism. This spiritual magazine are bought and read by both Hindus and non-Hindus in many countries

including India. They also do many other activities. Their web page: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/ Sivaya Namah

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July 19, 2007

Slevaratnam Selvakumar brother

What a fund of knowledge and what eternal truths

that i learnt of while reading your posting

thanks

It is indeed very revealing to know that no one conquer could desist

the destruction or pilferage of the temples, which is most annoying

since the gracing of the temples does not take away from the stains

of what they did to build a fantastic monastery or temple...

It only shows that in this the age of Kali the two things which are

totally uncontrolled and rampant in their sway are the tongue and the

genitals...both of which need to be totally and completely in control

to avoid or make these acts of destruction and desecration from

happening...

Shiva or the manifestation of Vishnu a rupa of the Trinity which is

what our Lord Narayana is, has to be understood in its

entirety...Srilanka which is the standing proof of what a country

needs to go through to evolve and become an example for other

denizens to follow..must have in its citizens and the people a voice

which can lend and put in place everything the country..Shaiva or

Saiva, which is its original name, so that the souls who inhabit

these countries stand to gain immensely. Since we as citizens of a

country have often to ask ourselves Not what the country can give us

But what we can give the country...

This must indeed be the one slogan from every one of the citizens and

diaspora...the contents of this slogan should be loud and clear full

with awareness and exhibiting the three Da's Dana..giving without

expecting any return, Daya compassion for the one who is suffering or

in distress and Datha the one who sustains , exhibiting the

integrated message inherent in the dance of shiva, the oneness with h

His consciousness and the ultimate merging in the ocean of His Ocean

Epitomizing your name and your experience in Srilanka you dear

brother should compile this and circulate among all the citizens of

Srilanka deep southern states of kerala, Tamil Nadu, Mangalore,

Karnataka and Maharashtra, for a start. Not to speak of a posting so

that all members will know that countries are symbolic manifestations

of earth bound locations to help Mankind play out his theatricals.

Each and every country is but a mere organ of the huge and mammoth

body comprising of the Lord of the Lord and the King of Kings. It is

therefore fitting that Srilanka erstwhile Saiva formed the huge

triangle which had Mount Kailash as the Apex and itself as the

base..All territories inbetween played host to all of Vishnu's rupas

bearing complete testimony to know that...

....Our beloved and omnipresent omniscient and omniaudient Avatar and

Narayana, Sri Sathyasaibaba is and always be with us in us front of

us behind us and being our voice our hearts and our everything

provided we heeded and played our parts to make the play a great

spectacle to see and enjoy

OM NAMAH SHIVAYA

OM NAMAH NARAYANA

OM HARI OM

, Selvaratnam Selvakumar

<selvauk wrote:

>

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> Dear Sri Bhupendra,

>

> " Once upon a time, long time ago, what we know today as Sri Lanka

was mainly Saiva....but they are all gone today. Their pacifist

attitude was the reason for it....they never gacve a fight, took

things as it came taking all as the will of god. A lot of knowledge

about Saivism if lost today as a result. Who is to take

responsibility for not protecting this knowledge and way of life? "

>

> I disagree with your above statement. Saivism is always

alive is Sri Lanka. I myself was born and lived there until my age of

13. There are a large number of Hindu temples, Christian missionaries

did demolish temples during 16th - 18th century and built churches

but by the grace of Lord Siva, Christianity was eventually overthrown

by Hindus. In fact I heard the bad time started for the missionaries

when they demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a

church on it, the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed

and all the builders and the missionary members who master minded the

demolition of the temple were died of an unknown disease.

>

> There are many Hindu Schools established by a Great Saivite Saint

who masterminded and overthrew Christianity (form Hindu dominated

areas in the country), I studied in one of them when I was a child,

Hinduism is a compulsory subject and also there is an addition

nationwide exam on Saivism that every Hindu student should take.

>

> Although historically (history since 5 AD) the majority of the

population (70%) are Buddhist who originally came from North India,

the current trend is that in many Buddhist temples they have

installed Saiva deities (mainly Lord Ganesha and Lord Subramanya). I

would say most Buddhists are also Hindus.

>

> There is a most holiest place in Sri Lanka, a deeply mystical

shrine dedicated to Lord Subramanya known as Kathirkama (this the

most sacred temple of Lord Subramanya in this world), this shrine

does not have a sculptural representation of the deity but has a big

Yantra box (this was given by Lord Subramanya to one of His devotees

to built a temple at the location), even an strong elephant find it

difficult to carry the Lords' Yantra on its back during festival

days. There is also a holy river flow at the exact location known as

Manika Ganga and also Vibuti (Basma) is naturally grow on a hill

nearby the shrine and is the holiest Basma in this world. Many great

saints and sages also have visited the shrine from India since

ancient time. According to the Skanda Maha Purana, this is the place

commemorating the Emakudam or the Base Camp of Lord Skanda

(Subramanya) and Deva (demi-god) soldiers, which He had pitched upon

the outskirts of the capital of an Asura king Surapadma

> (This king had the power (as a boon) to live for108 yugas to rule

a 1008 kingdoms and to be undefeatble even by the forces of Lord

Vishnu) , Veeramahendrapuri. This city (Veeramahendrapuri) was spread

over seven islands around Sri Lanka and after the battle with the

Asuras, Lord Subramanya made a huge tsunami and made those islands

drowned into the ocean. And it is said that it is the place where the

form of Lord Subrahmanya attained Oneness with Lord Siva in the form

of a Jothi (Lord Subramanya who came from the Siva Jothi (via Lord

Siva's third eye) reunited with the Siva Jothi in this place). This

holy place is well look after by both Hindus and Buddhists. Many

Buddhists people (including monks) make regular pilgrimage to the

temple. Hundred of thousands of devotees participate during the

festival days.

>

> On the other hand the Buddhists people are totally against

activities of Christian missionaries in their country who covert

their people, they find it totally offensive for an alien religion

who pay no respect to their religion and their way of living by

converting people. They make demonstrations against the government

for allowing them into their country and I even heard they often

physically attack Christian missionaries' activities.

>

> I was fortunate to perform pujas and other services at 3 temples

(Siva, Durga and Kali) own by our family form my age of 5 to 13

before I came to the UK. Although our family members are not in Sri

Lanka now, we look after those temples, we recently installed new

deities and arranged a priest to perform pujas , many local village

people also participate in joint daily prayers.

>

> Many Hindu people fled their homeland due to the civil war in Sri

Lanka but one good thing come out of the war, Sri Lankan Hindu people

have built many Saiva temples ( strictly following the temple

building rules prescribed in Saiva Agamas) in nearly all European

countries, Canada, America, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and other

countries (my heart strongly feel that He is using us to build a

foundation for reestablishing Saivism (for the benefit of matured

souls) worldwide and my heart also feels that there are more great

Saiva Saints to come and work towards it). A large percentage of

these temples' income is used to provide religious and other

education to children and feeding poor people in Sri Lanka. A

majority of children who are born abroad are taught Bharatanatyam

(the dance of Lord Siva) or Miruthangam (the instrument play by

Bagavan Nandi while Lord Siva dances). Many people also give

donations to construct and renovate temples in their motherland.

>

> I would also like to say that no knowledge is lost as such;

spiritual knowledge has been transmitted to worldwide. If you want

have a good knowledge about Saivism then please read the three

exceptional books (Dancing with Siva, Living with Siva and Merging

with Siva) written by Satguru Sivaya Subramanyaswami whose Guru was

Jnanaguru Siva Yogaswami from Sri Lanka (Subramanyaswami met his guru

when he travelled to Sri Lanka from the USA and he attained Self-

Realisation there and went back to the USA and founded a Hindu

Monastery). His disciples most of them white Americans dedicate their

live to serve the Lord through spreading the true spiritual message

of Hinduism by publishing an exceptional magazine called `Hinduism

Today' every three months, this magazine represents all Hindu sects

not just Saivism. This spiritual magazine are bought and read by both

Hindus and non-Hindus in many countries including India. They also do

many other activities. Their web page:

> http://www.himalayanacademy.com/

>

> Sivaya Namah

>

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July 19, 2007

Dear Selvaratnam Ji, Thanks for picking this up. My knowledge is based on what I read, whereas yours seems to be based on what you see. I did not know that buddhist of Sri Lanka keep images of Ganesh, Lord Subramaniya. That is amazing! But what for then this war in Sri Lanka. I am curious to know why. BTW, I live in Canada. You mentioned of Siva temples being bult here based on Saiva Agamas. I haven't seen any. Are you aware of any specific one?Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: Om Namah Sivaya Dear Sri Bhupendra, "Once upon a time, long time ago, what we know today as Sri Lanka was mainly Saiva....but they are all gone today. Their pacifist attitude was the reason for it....they never gacve a fight, took things as it came taking all as the will of god. A lot of knowledge about Saivism if lost today as a result. Who is to take responsibility for not protecting this knowledge and way of life?" I disagree with your above statement. Saivism is always alive is Sri Lanka. I myself was born and lived there until my age of 13. There are a large number of Hindu temples, Christian missionaries did demolish temples during 16th -

18th century and built churches but by the grace of Lord Siva, Christianity was eventually overthrown by Hindus. In fact I heard the bad time started for the missionaries when they demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a church on it, the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed and all the builders and the missionary members who master minded the demolition of the temple were died of an unknown disease. There are many Hindu Schools established by a Great Saivite Saint who masterminded and overthrew Christianity (form Hindu dominated areas in the country), I studied in one of them when I was a child, Hinduism is a compulsory subject and also there is an addition nationwide exam on Saivism that every Hindu student should take. Although historically (history since 5 AD) the majority of the population

(70%) are Buddhist who originally came from North India, the current trend is that in many Buddhist temples they have installed Saiva deities (mainly Lord Ganesha and Lord Subramanya). I would say most Buddhists are also Hindus. There is a most holiest place in Sri Lanka, a deeply mystical shrine dedicated to Lord Subramanya known as Kathirkama (this the most sacred temple of Lord Subramanya in this world), this shrine does not have a sculptural representation of the deity but has a big Yantra box (this was given by Lord Subramanya to one of His devotees to built a temple at the location), even an strong elephant find it difficult to carry

the Lords’ Yantra on its back during festival days. There is also a holy river flow at the exact location known as Manika Ganga and also Vibuti (Basma) is naturally grow on a hill nearby the shrine and is the holiest Basma in this world. Many great saints and sages also have visited the shrine from India since ancient time. According to the Skanda Maha Purana, this is the place commemorating the Emakudam or the Base Camp of Lord Skanda (Subramanya) and Deva (demi-god) soldiers, which He had pitched upon the outskirts of the capital of an Asura king Surapadma (This king had the power (as a boon) to live for108 yugas to rule a 1008 kingdoms and to be undefeatble even by the forces of Lord Vishnu) , Veeramahendrapuri. This city (Veeramahendrapuri) was spread over seven islands around Sri Lanka and after the battle with the Asuras, Lord Subramanya made a huge tsunami and made those islands drowned into the ocean. And it is said that

it is the place where the form of Lord Subrahmanya attained Oneness with Lord Siva in the form of a Jothi (Lord Subramanya who came from the Siva Jothi (via Lord Siva's third eye) reunited with the Siva Jothi in this place). This holy place is well look after by both Hindus and Buddhists. Many Buddhists people (including monks) make regular pilgrimage to the temple. Hundred of thousands of devotees participate during the festival days. On the other hand the Buddhists people are totally against activities of Christian missionaries in their country who covert their people, they find it totally offensive for an alien religion who pay no respect to their religion and their way of living by converting people. They make demonstrations against the government for allowing them into their country and I even heard they often physically attack Christian missionaries'

activities. I was fortunate to perform pujas and other services at 3 temples (Siva, Durga and Kali) own by our family form my age of 5 to 13 before I came to the UK. Although our family members are not in Sri Lanka now, we look after those temples, we recently installed new deities and arranged a priest to perform pujas , many local village people also participate in joint daily prayers. Many Hindu people fled their homeland due to the civil war in Sri Lanka but one good thing come out of the war, Sri Lankan Hindu people have built many Saiva temples ( strictly following the temple building rules prescribed in Saiva Agamas) in nearly all European countries, Canada, America, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and other countries (my heart strongly feel that He is using us to build a foundation for reestablishing Saivism (for

the benefit of matured souls) worldwide and my heart also feels that there are more great Saiva Saints to come and work towards it). A large percentage of these temples’ income is used to provide religious and other education to children and feeding poor people in Sri Lanka. A majority of children who are born abroad are taught Bharatanatyam (the dance of Lord Siva) or Miruthangam (the instrument play by Bagavan Nandi while Lord Siva dances). Many people also give donations to construct and renovate temples in their motherland. I would also like to say that no knowledge is lost as such; spiritual knowledge has been transmitted to worldwide. If you want have a good knowledge about Saivism then please read the three exceptional books (Dancing with Siva, Living with Siva and Merging with

Siva) written by Satguru Sivaya Subramanyaswami whose Guru was Jnanaguru Siva Yogaswami from Sri Lanka (Subramanyaswami met his guru when he travelled to Sri Lanka from the USA and he attained Self-Realisation there and went back to the USA and founded a Hindu Monastery). His disciples most of them white Americans dedicate their live to serve the Lord through spreading the true spiritual message of Hinduism by publishing an exceptional magazine called ‘Hinduism Today’ every three months, this magazine represents all Hindu sects not just Saivism. This spiritual magazine are bought and read by both Hindus and non-Hindus in many countries including India. They also do many other activities. Their web page: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/ Sivaya Namah What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship.

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July 20, 2007

I heard the bad time started for the missionaries when they demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a church on it, the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed and all the builders and the missionary members who master minded the demolition of the temple were died of an unknown disease.Hmmm, it seems Lord Ganesha gets ticked off every now and again too.... I guess he removed some obstacles ! (lol)Bhupendra Jamnadas <b_jamna> wrote: Dear Selvaratnam Ji,

Thanks for picking this up. My knowledge is based on what I read, whereas yours seems to be based on what you see. I did not know that buddhist of Sri Lanka keep images of Ganesh, Lord Subramaniya. That is amazing! But what for then this war in Sri Lanka. I am curious to know why. BTW, I live in Canada. You mentioned of Siva temples being bult here based on Saiva Agamas. I haven't seen any. Are you aware of any specific one?Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Om Namah Sivaya Dear Sri Bhupendra, "Once upon a time, long time ago, what we know today as Sri Lanka was mainly Saiva....but they are all gone today. Their

pacifist attitude was the reason for it....they never gacve a fight, took things as it came taking all as the will of god. A lot of knowledge about Saivism if lost today as a result. Who is to take responsibility for not protecting this knowledge and way of life?" I disagree with your above statement. Saivism is always alive is Sri Lanka. I myself was born and lived there until my age of 13. There are a large number of Hindu temples, Christian missionaries did demolish temples during 16th - 18th century and built churches but by the grace of Lord Siva, Christianity was eventually overthrown by Hindus. In fact I heard the bad time started for the missionaries when they demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a church on it, the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed and all the builders and

the missionary members who master minded the demolition of the temple were died of an unknown disease. There are many Hindu Schools established by a Great Saivite Saint who masterminded and overthrew Christianity (form Hindu dominated areas in the country), I studied in one of them when I was a child, Hinduism is a compulsory subject and also there is an addition nationwide exam on Saivism that every Hindu student should take. Although historically (history since 5 AD) the majority of the population (70%) are Buddhist who originally came from North India, the current trend is that in many Buddhist temples they have installed Saiva deities (mainly Lord Ganesha and Lord Subramanya). I would say most Buddhists are also Hindus. There is a most holiest place in

Sri Lanka, a deeply mystical shrine dedicated to Lord Subramanya known as Kathirkama (this the most sacred temple of Lord Subramanya in this world), this shrine does not have a sculptural representation of the deity but has a big Yantra box (this was given by Lord Subramanya to one of His devotees to built a temple at the location), even an strong elephant find it difficult to carry the Lords’ Yantra on its back during festival days. There is also a holy river flow at the exact location known as Manika Ganga and also Vibuti (Basma) is naturally grow on a hill nearby the shrine and is the holiest Basma in this world. Many great saints and sages also have visited the shrine from India

since ancient time. According to the Skanda Maha Purana, this is the place commemorating the Emakudam or the Base Camp of Lord Skanda (Subramanya) and Deva (demi-god) soldiers, which He had pitched upon the outskirts of the capital of an Asura king Surapadma (This king had the power (as a boon) to live for108 yugas to rule a 1008 kingdoms and to be undefeatble even by the forces of Lord Vishnu) , Veeramahendrapuri. This city (Veeramahendrapuri) was spread over seven islands around Sri Lanka and after the battle with the Asuras, Lord Subramanya made a huge tsunami and made those islands drowned into the ocean. And it is said that it is the place where the form of Lord Subrahmanya attained Oneness with Lord Siva in the form of a Jothi (Lord Subramanya who came from the Siva Jothi (via Lord Siva's third eye) reunited with the Siva Jothi in this place). This holy place is well look after by both Hindus and Buddhists. Many Buddhists

people (including monks) make regular pilgrimage to the temple. Hundred of thousands of devotees participate during the festival days. On the other hand the Buddhists people are totally against activities of Christian missionaries in their country who covert their people, they find it totally offensive for an alien religion who pay no respect to their religion and their way of living by converting people. They make demonstrations against the government for allowing them into their country and I even heard they often physically attack Christian missionaries' activities. I was fortunate to perform pujas and other services at 3 temples (Siva, Durga and Kali) own by our family form my age of 5 to 13 before I came to the UK. Although our family members are not in Sri Lanka now, we look after those temples, we

recently installed new deities and arranged a priest to perform pujas , many local village people also participate in joint daily prayers. Many Hindu people fled their homeland due to the civil war in Sri Lanka but one good thing come out of the war, Sri Lankan Hindu people have built many Saiva temples ( strictly following the temple building rules prescribed in Saiva Agamas) in nearly all European countries, Canada, America, Africa, Australia, New Zealand and other countries (my heart strongly feel that He is using us to build a foundation for reestablishing Saivism (for the benefit of matured souls) worldwide and my heart also feels that there are more great Saiva Saints to come and work towards it). A large percentage of these temples’ income is used to provide religious and other education to children and feeding poor people in Sri Lanka. A majority of

children who are born abroad are taught Bharatanatyam (the dance of Lord Siva) or Miruthangam (the instrument play by Bagavan Nandi while Lord Siva dances). Many people also give donations to construct and renovate temples in their motherland. I would also like to say that no knowledge is lost as such; spiritual knowledge has been transmitted to worldwide. If you want have a good knowledge about Saivism then please read the three exceptional books (Dancing with Siva, Living with Siva and Merging with Siva) written by Satguru Sivaya Subramanyaswami whose Guru was Jnanaguru Siva Yogaswami from Sri Lanka (Subramanyaswami met his guru when he travelled to Sri Lanka from the USA and he attained Self-Realisation there and went back to the USA and founded a Hindu Monastery). His disciples most of

them white Americans dedicate their live to serve the Lord through spreading the true spiritual message of Hinduism by publishing an exceptional magazine called ‘Hinduism Today’ every three months, this magazine represents all Hindu sects not just Saivism. This spiritual magazine are bought and read by both Hindus and non-Hindus in many countries including India. They also do many other activities. Their web page: http://www.himalayanacademy.com/ Sivaya Namah What kind of emailer are you? Find out today - get a free analysis of your email personality. Take the quiz at the Mail Championship. Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Mail

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July 21, 2007

dear shivbhakts

om namo bhagawate rudraya

firstly i bless selvaratnamji to share more of his knowledge on lord

shiva and various places of interested related to lord shiva so that

the members of this group get benefited as they have been for the

past couple of years.

as rightly said by him, i too found a mention in the puranas that the

holy place and the temple mentioned by selvaratnamji in srilanka is

indeed the MOST HOLIEST SHRINE FOR LORD SARAVANA IN THE WORLD. the

six malais in tamilnadu come only after this holy place in srilanka.

however, lord saravana is mostly reverred in srilanka and tamilnadu

in particular and south india in general. many pictures of lord

shiva and parvati having their two children ganesha and saravana on

either side are seen and worshipped in south india whereas in the

west, north and east lord saravana is ommitted from the photographs

and laymen tend to believe lord shiva and parvati have only one son

ganesha and ignore lord saravana. being a subrahmanya upasaka

myself, i realised that this god is the easiest to please and one

gets abundant energies by meditating on this lord who has various

names skanda, shanmukha, murugan, saravana, subrahmanya, kartikeya

etc. lord saravana is the army chief of the devatas and hence, to

defend oneself and win over enemies, worshipping lord saravana is the

best remedy. lord saravana is the ruler of planet mars and any

person having manglik dosha (kuja dosham) needs to worship lord

saravana.

modern men and women may remind themselves that buddhism, jainism and

sikhism were internal branches of hinduism itself and not alien from

hinduism. jainism continued to be the most saatvik of their nature

and is thriving within india and all jains are hindus first and jains

second. sikhism also used to be like this few decades ago as their

gurus formed this religions with a single objective of protecting

hindus from the onslaught of the invading muslims who came to india

to spread islam at sword's edge. gurunanakji visited rammandir in

ayodhya and glorified ram and other gods in various sermons.

similarly gurugobind singh wrote that when he meditated at hemkund

sahib in the himalayas near kedarnath, he realised that he was a

hindu sage in his previous birth and in this birth he was on a

mission to protect the hindus. unfortunately indira gandhi spoilt

this religion and with her passing away, they are now living

peacefully with the hindus just like the hindus. however, buddhism

which was born and grown only in india initialy found invading on

hinduism by several hindus within india and was shunned and even

fought in some indian states. then it found wider acceptance from

neighbouring countries and today it is finding interest in all parts

of the world. hence one must realise that all these three religions

viz. buddhisim, jainism and sikhism are only three branches of

hinduism and shall not see them as separate religions.

as regards civil war between two brotherly communities viz. simhalese

and tamilians, the seeds of enemity were sown by indiragandhi and

grown by rajivgandhi. as is the case with indiragandhi and sikh

extremism, here too with the demise of rajivgandhi, the rift between

tamilians and simhalese brothers is no longer there and both are

living peacefully except some intermittant political outbursts.

pandit nehru and his descendants indira, rajiv and sonia are the sole

culprits for damaging hinduism in general and saivism in particular.

many old shivbhakts in this group may be aware as to how nehru

obstructed sardar patel from liberating the somnath jyotirlinga even

when nehru was granting crores of rupees for building mosques in

pakistan. published facts of this can be found in the statesman

newspaper editions which are in their archives. later it was sardar

patel only who gave independence to telangana state from the

dictatorship of nizam who was thriving at the friendship of nehru.

i also happen to find some historical references from a great

historian in delhi that the mecca indeed had a shivling and it is

this shivling that is attracting all haj pilgrims. i also met one

old octogenarian in delhi who made a futile bid to carry gangajal

carried in a water pouch stiched within his skin and went to mecca.

if members wish to know more on the shivling in mecca, i would share

some links and published facts that confirm this shivling presence in

mecca.

however, as is the wont of hinduism, we preach and practice freedom

to practice whatever religion one chooses as all paths lead to the

same god.

in praise of lord shiva and with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

, Dev Maharaj

<dev_maharaj wrote:

>

> I heard the bad time started for the missionaries when they

demolished a very great Lord Ganesha temple and built a church on it,

the whole roof and the building of the church collapsed and all the

builders and the missionary members who master minded the demolition

of the temple were died of an unknown disease.

>

> Hmmm, it seems Lord Ganesha gets ticked off every now and again

too.... I guess he removed some obstacles ! (lol)

>

> Bhupendra Jamnadas <b_jamna>

wrote:

> Dear Selvaratnam Ji,

>

> Thanks for picking this up. My knowledge is based on what I read,

whereas yours seems to be based on what you see. I did not know that

buddhist of Sri Lanka keep images of Ganesh, Lord Subramaniya. That

is amazing! But what for then this war in Sri Lanka. I am curious to

know why.

>

> BTW, I live in Canada. You mentioned of Siva temples being bult

here based on Saiva Agamas. I haven't seen any. Are you aware of any

specific one?

>

> Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: