Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Namaskaram,As a student of Hinduism - not merely as a theology - I have been given to understand that we need to GROW........ GROW in our understanding of WHAT IS GOD.... not who is GOD.As we have been taught - standing lines, sleeping lines, slanting lines, then circles, rectangles etc before we are taught the letters and then letters before we are taught the wordsand words before we are taught the sentences, grammer, literature, ...The study is never ending...as KNOWLEDGE HAS NO LIMITSExactly in same way, understanding of God needs qualifications...one need to know the language, one need to know the sciences, one need to know the emotions and feelings, one need to know the psychology and sociology All these help one in the process of study what is ' AN ORDER'physical order, psychological order, social order....different ordersAnd to study and understand these, the different tools include initially Saguna and then Nirguna etc.The problem is that the moment I know a little bit of calculus - which may be i study in 7th or 8th standard, i develop a '"QUALITY"' to look at the my fellow beings who are in 4th and 5th how ignorant they are and how knowledgeable "I" am." to think that God can at the wink of an eye change his or her mind to fulfill a greater purpose. " This means you are attributing a limitation on the GOD ..dont you? Why - if GOD IS ALL THE KNOWLEDGE - need to change anything? pardon me for my asking some stupid questions, but the replies could help me and others like me in clearing our (mis)understanding.I also feel we need to study the LAW OF KARMA and DHARMA a lot more, more analytically and may be more professionally....involving some university with a good number of scientists, medical practitioners, sociologists etc... and that may help a good data collections which could on analysis atleast some part of this great LAW.:-)):-(( bhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: >You see, we generally make the mistake of assuming that God is > static and that what we have read in a book or listened to from someone else will ALWAYS be the case. We also tend to try to equate God's consciousness with our limited self, this is not so at all, as God is infinitely more evolved and can in the wink of an eye change his/her mind to fulfill a greater purpose. > Dear Sri Pandit ji, Namaste ! While I don't disagree that God acts (I have myself experienced his healing power), I have a question here. If God intervenes then he/she is making choices. Can you imagine a God who decides, ok - these folks in Darfur should remain hungry today, while so and so will get murdered today, while so and so will get blessings today. Can you imagine such a God ? It seems hard to believe in such a God. It seems more logical that people get according to their worth and their karma. Having said that, I also believe that power of God can be invoked via mantras, rituals and yagna but finite actions only yield a finite result. regards, Shailendra Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage on Mail. Click here for happy ending! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2007 Report Share Posted June 20, 2007 Namaste" to think that God can at the wink of an eye change his or her mind to fulfill a greater purpose. " This means you are attributing a limitation on the GOD ..dont you? Why - if GOD IS ALL THE KNOWLEDGE - need to change anything? Pardon me, but I thought that God having the ability to change something is NOT ascribing a limitation to the being. !Lord Shiva is described as a God of infinite creativity therefore it follows that changes can be made if same is desired by him. Also as a consequence of having/being all knowledge, it follows that God would also be evolving at a rate that is exponentially beyond what we can fathom. There is no Holy Book, or guru - be he/she advanced or not or other power that can constrain God or the acts of God. God as Sakti has three primary functions which are Jnana (knowledge) Will (Iccha) and Action (Kriya)I also wish to explain to you that when you are merged in Siva whatever you wish to know becomes clear to you as well (there is a limitation here thoughwhich is what you are permitted to know ). Karma ( follows a set of predefineddivine laws) and Dharma are man made laws as pertains to religion, society etc..However it should be noted that even these can be changed by God if so commanded by God.The general premise that we operate on, is that we understand and discern what we can see, feel, hear, touch and smell. What we don't appreciate is that God is not only capable of acting on one but in all planes of existence which to us would be very imperceptible !Siva is called by the names Bhava, Sarva, Rudra, Ugra, Pasupati, Bhima, Mahadeva, Ishana and MaheshThese nine names have a metaphysical significance Each form is represented as (i) Sarva-earth (ii) Bhava-water (iii) Rudra-fire (iv) Ugra- wind (v) Bhima-ether (vi) Pasupati-soul (vii) Mahadeva-moon (viii). Isana-Sun. The eighth form of Siva is Atman (Spirit/Soul), which pervades the universe. Mahesha is the summary manifestation of all these. Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra Maharajram mohan anantha pai <pairamblr wrote: Namaskaram,As a student of Hinduism - not merely as a theology - I have been given to understand that we need to GROW........ GROW in our understanding of WHAT IS GOD.... not who is GOD.As we have been taught - standing lines, sleeping lines, slanting lines, then circles, rectangles etc before we are taught the letters and then letters before we are taught the wordsand words before we are taught the sentences, grammer, literature, ...The study is never ending...as KNOWLEDGE HAS NO LIMITSExactly in same way, understanding of God needs qualifications...one need to know the language, one need to know the sciences, one need to know the emotions and feelings, one need to know the psychology and sociology All these help one in the process of study what is ' AN ORDER'physical order, psychological order, social order....different ordersAnd to study and understand these, the different tools include initially Saguna and then Nirguna etc.The problem is that the moment I know a little bit of calculus - which may be i study in 7th or 8th standard, i develop a '"QUALITY"' to look at the my fellow beings who are in 4th and 5th how ignorant they are and how knowledgeable "I" am." to think that God can at the wink of an eye change his or her mind to fulfill a greater purpose. " This means you are attributing a limitation on the GOD ..dont you? Why - if GOD IS ALL THE KNOWLEDGE - need to change anything? pardon me for my asking some stupid questions, but the replies could help me and others like me in clearing our (mis)understanding.I also feel we need to study the LAW OF KARMA and DHARMA a lot more, more analytically and may be more professionally....involving some university with a good number of scientists, medical practitioners, sociologists etc... and that may help a good data collections which could on analysis atleast some part of this great LAW.:-)):-(( bhatnagar_shailendra <bhatnagar_shailendra wrote: >You see, we generally make the mistake of assuming that God is > static and that what we have read in a book or listened to from someone else will ALWAYS be the case. We also tend to try to equate God's consciousness with our limited self, this is not so at all, as God is infinitely more evolved and can in the wink of an eye change his/her mind to fulfill a greater purpose. > Dear Sri Pandit ji, Namaste ! While I don't disagree that God acts (I have myself experienced his healing power), I have a question here. If God intervenes then he/she is making choices. Can you imagine a God who decides, ok - these folks in Darfur should remain hungry today, while so and so will get murdered today, while so and so will get blessings today. Can you imagine such a God ? It seems hard to believe in such a God. It seems more logical that people get according to their worth and their karma. Having said that, I also believe that power of God can be invoked via mantras, rituals and yagna but finite actions only yield a finite result. regards, Shailendra Once upon a time there was 1 GB storage on Mail. Click here for happy ending! Never miss an email again! 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