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Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them

from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees

non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya

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NamaskaarThis is highly incorrect, God exists as the Sakshi (witness ) within all humans he is not the doer of the action we are ! This is so as God learns from experiences of Humans but remains untouched by the effects of our actions.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra MaharajSelvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now.

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dear shivbhakts

om namo bhagawate rudraya

 

shivbhakt selvaratnamji has written what ramakrishna paramahansa has

told. while describing the simple layman's thinking of calling each

human a god, he says at the end that only with brahmajnana one

realises the nonduality. hope this concluding paragraph clears any

misunderstanding on what ramakrishna has preached.

 

everyone knows that god is one and his manifestations are many. god

has taken the manifestatio (avatar) of a fish, a pig and a lion. no

one calls the god as " fish god " , " pig god " or " lion god " . also cow

is referred as containing all gods and goddesses and even nandiswara

(bull) is treated as god. only an ignorant child speaks different

names of the god. as he grows and learns the nonduality, he starts

seeing the same lifeforce (god) in all sentient (including humans)

beings.

 

an ignorant child may also ask as to how crores of fish and thousand

of pigs are killed every day and eaten by the humans and other other

animals when god exists in all. one may even ask why in the name of

armies one nation is killing the armies of other nations thereby

killing the god in those humans. this is the reason why wise men

preach of showing love and compassion towards all sentient beings

alike as the same god exists in all humans.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

www.rudraksharemedy.com

 

 

, Dev Maharaj

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> Namaskaar

>

> This is highly incorrect, God exists as the Sakshi (witness )

within all humans he is not the doer of the action we are ! This is

so as God learns from experiences of Humans but remains untouched by

the effects of our actions.

>

> Namah Sivaya

> Best Regards

> Pandit Devindra Maharaj

>

> Selvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk

wrote:

> Om Namah Sivaya

>

> " Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading

Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in

different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the

power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In

some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others.

Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers,

to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as

the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a

distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may

devour us.

>

> He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but

this.

>

> Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining

Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and

Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power

to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power

to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also

think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its

whiteness, water and its wetness. "

>

> -----Sri Ramakrishna

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>

>

> Sivaya Namah

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Om Namah Sivaya Siva exists in humans, animals, insects, trees, Gods, Devas, Asuras, etc as the Sakshi in His transcendental (static) aspect but His dynamic aspects are INFINATE indeed!. Only Lord Siva knows His all aspects, we will never fully understand Him with our TINY human mind but the best thing we can do is dissolve our mind/ego in Siva and enjoy Sivanandam (Eternal Divine Bliss). The only limitation Lord Siva has is that He cannot separate Himself from living beings because He is the core of life. All visable forms are only different modification of His Sakti (Power). There are temples dedicated to worship Siva as Water, Fire, Air, Earth and Sky, these are different modification of His inseparable Power. Siva is clearly manifested in humans than any other beings in this planet. We can see clearly groups of people involve in creation (producing babies, products, buildings, etc), preservation (conservationist, Law and Order, maintenance of things, religion, etc), destruction (regeneration, etc), Liberating (we see spiritual giants come to guide us towards Self- Realisation), etc. The Gita says: ‘Upadrashtanumanta cha bharta bhokta mahesvarah’ (Mahesvara conducts the work of creation according to His will and pleasure), for me this statement is very true as He does this via the insturments of many hands, bodies, mouth, eyes, ears, etc. When one of the Great Devotees of Siva, Karaikal Ammaiyar visited Mount Kailasa she had

the vision of Lord Siva not Siva and Mother Parvathy together because Karaikal Ammaiyar did not give any impotance to Sakti. Then Mother Parvathy wanted to teach Karaikal Ammaiyar a lesson, so as per instruction of Lord Siva she was walking down a deep forest to reach a temple in order witness the dance of Siva, she was so tired and taking a rest in a Kali and Mother Parvathy came as a woman to sell a sweet drink but Karaikal Ammaiyar did not have any money but she was dying for a drink , she explained that she was a renounciate and asked for a free drink. The woman asked why you needed the drink, Karaikal Ammaiyar said, " I need some Sakti (energy) to walk to a temple", the woman said " I thought you didn't like Sakti", Karaikal Ammaiyar immediately realised that the woman must be Mother Parvathy and she must be totally convinced that not even an atom move without Sakti. How can be perform action without the inseparable power of Siva?. In truth we are endowed with Ichha (will), Jnana (knowledge) and Kriya (action) saktis but not equally, differs from people to people according to the will of the Lord. With regards to the statement of Sri Ramkrishna Paramahamsa, even Swami Vivekananda did not belief the statment of his Guru in the first place , he considered it wholly blasphemous to look on man as one with his Creator. One day at Dakshineswar Kali temple garden he laughingly said to friend: " How silly! This jug is God! This cup is God! Whatever we

see is God! And we too are God! Nothing could be more absurd." Sri Ramakrishna came out of his room and gently touched him. Spellbound, he immediately perceived that everything in the world was indeed God. A new universe opened around him. Returning home in a dazed state, he found there too that the food, the plate, the eater himself, the people around him , were all God. When he walked in the street, he saw that the cabs, the horses, the streams of people, the building , were all Brahman. He could hardly go about his day's business. His parents bacame anxious about him and thought him ill. And when the intensity of the experience abated a little, he saw the world as dream. Walking in the public square, he would strike his head against the iron railing to know whether they were real. It took him a number of days to recover his normal self. He had a foretaste of the great experience yet to come and realized that the words of the Vedanta were true. If one can go beyond the consciousness of Body and mind and reach the Siva(Supreme)-Consciousness then one can get the experience of Satcitananda. Sivaya Namah Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj wrote: NamaskaarThis is highly incorrect, God exists as the Sakshi (witness ) within all humans he is not the doer of the action we are ! This is so as God learns from experiences of Humans but remains untouched by the effects of our

actions.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra MaharajSelvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I

think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and Its

Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar.

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NamaskaarThis is an excellent postulation for ease, however the reality of Siva is beyond description. You are right that our TINY minds cannot comprehend Siva in his fullness. FYI there are some things you may wish to be aware of though.Firstly I think you should read the following texts as it will bring you to the point that although Siva's power is manifest in all things, Siva's consciousness is not !Spanda KarikaParatriksika Vivarana Siva SutrasRef. Siva Sutras - Jaideva Singh - ISBN 81-208-0406-622nd Sutra - Pg 77-78MahaahradaanusandhaanaanmantraviiryaynubhavahBy uniting with the great lake (the infinite reservoir of Divine Power ) (he has) the experience of Supreme I - Consciousness which is the generative source of all mantras"The most venerable supreme Consciousness ( Paraa-samvit) positing Iccha Sakti as the primary Sakti, projecting

the universe from Subtle to Gross objects is a great lake."Therefore while all things are created, maintained and dissolved in Siva, Siva is not manifest in all. Siva abides in pure consciousness and is beyond Prakriti and Guna and untouched by sin or karma.All of this universe while being real is a construct of the power of Siva (Sakti in her various manifestations ) and abides in Siva but is not the power of Siva. The only way that I know to understand this is to align yourself to the power itself to understand how this functions. Therefore it would be incorrect to assume that Siva is the doer of all things.Understand that by doing so what you are implying is that Siva is capable of sin and can incur bad karma - God being Sakshi is beyond all of this !Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra MaharajSelvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk wrote: Om Namah Sivaya Siva exists in humans, animals, insects, trees, Gods, Devas, Asuras, etc as the Sakshi in His transcendental (static) aspect but His dynamic aspects are INFINATE indeed!. Only Lord Siva knows His all aspects, we will never fully understand Him with our TINY human mind but the best thing we can do is dissolve our mind/ego in Siva and enjoy Sivanandam (Eternal Divine Bliss). The only

limitation Lord Siva has is that He cannot separate Himself from living beings because He is the core of life. All visable forms are only different modification of His Sakti (Power). There are temples dedicated to worship Siva as Water, Fire, Air, Earth and Sky, these are different modification of His inseparable Power. Siva is clearly manifested in humans than any other beings in this planet. We can see clearly groups of people involve in creation (producing babies, products, buildings, etc), preservation (conservationist, Law and Order, maintenance of things, religion, etc), destruction (regeneration, etc), Liberating (we see spiritual giants come to guide us towards Self- Realisation), etc. The Gita says: ‘Upadrashtanumanta cha bharta bhokta mahesvarah’

(Mahesvara conducts the work of creation according to His will and pleasure), for me this statement is very true as He does this via the insturments of many hands, bodies, mouth, eyes, ears, etc. When one of the Great Devotees of Siva, Karaikal Ammaiyar visited Mount Kailasa she had the vision of Lord Siva not Siva and Mother Parvathy together because Karaikal Ammaiyar did not give any impotance to Sakti. Then Mother Parvathy wanted to teach Karaikal Ammaiyar a lesson, so as per instruction of Lord Siva she was walking down a deep forest to reach a temple in order witness the dance of Siva, she was so tired and taking a rest in a Kali and Mother Parvathy came as a woman to sell a sweet drink but Karaikal Ammaiyar did not have any money but she was dying for a drink , she explained that she was a renounciate and asked for a free drink. The

woman asked why you needed the drink, Karaikal Ammaiyar said, " I need some Sakti (energy) to walk to a temple", the woman said " I thought you didn't like Sakti", Karaikal Ammaiyar immediately realised that the woman must be Mother Parvathy and she must be totally convinced that not even an atom move without Sakti. How can be perform action without the inseparable power of Siva?. In truth we are endowed with Ichha (will), Jnana (knowledge) and Kriya (action) saktis but not equally, differs from people to people according to the will of the Lord. With regards to the statement

of Sri Ramkrishna Paramahamsa, even Swami Vivekananda did not belief the statment of his Guru in the first place , he considered it wholly blasphemous to look on man as one with his Creator. One day at Dakshineswar Kali temple garden he laughingly said to friend: " How silly! This jug is God! This cup is God! Whatever we see is God! And we too are God! Nothing could be more absurd." Sri Ramakrishna came out of his room and gently touched him. Spellbound, he immediately perceived that everything in the world was indeed God. A new universe opened around him. Returning home in a dazed state, he found there too that the food, the plate, the eater himself, the people around him , were all God. When he walked in the street, he saw that the cabs, the horses, the streams of people, the building , were all Brahman. He could hardly go about his day's business. His parents bacame anxious about him and thought him ill. And when the intensity of the experience abated a

little, he saw the world as dream. Walking in the public square, he would strike his head against the iron railing to know whether they were real. It took him a number of days to recover his normal self. He had a foretaste of the great experience yet to come and realized that the words of the Vedanta were true. If one can go beyond the consciousness of Body and mind and reach the Siva(Supreme)-Consciousness then one can get the experience of Satcitananda. Sivaya Namah Dev Maharaj <dev_maharaj > wrote: NamaskaarThis is highly incorrect, God exists as the Sakshi (witness ) within all humans he is not the doer of the

action we are ! This is so as God learns from experiences of Humans but remains untouched by the effects of our actions.Namah SivayaBest RegardsPandit Devindra MaharajSelvaratnam Selvakumar <selvauk (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Om Namah Sivaya "Undoubtedly God exists in all beings as the All-pervading Spirit, but the manifestations of His Power are different in different beings. In some places there is a manifestation of the power of Knowledge; in the others, of the power of ignorance. In some places there is greater manifestation of power than

in others. Don't you see that among human beings there are cheats and gamblers, to say nothing of men who are like tigers. I think of them as the 'cheat God', the 'tiger God'.We should salute them from a distance. If we go near the 'tiger God' and embrace him, he may devour us. He and His Power, Brahman and Its Power - nothing else exists but this. Believe in the form of God. It is only after attaining Brahmajnana that one sees non-duality, the oneness of Brahman and Its Sakti. Brahman and Sakti are identical, like fire and its power to burn. When a man thinks of fire, he must also think of its power to burn. Again, when he thinks of the power to burn, he must also think of fire. Further, Brahman and Sakti are like milk and its whiteness, water and its wetness." -----Sri Ramakrishna Sivaya Namah Answers - Got a question? Someone out there knows the answer. Try it now. It's here! Your new message!Get new email alerts with the free Toolbar. Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up for your free account today.

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