KALI BY Aleister Crowley

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Jit,

Beloved brother my multitoutious thanks

for plublishing these words of Love & joy

By Mister Crowely many in the west see this man as a evil one

but look beyond the seeming chaos the " madness " and you might see a soul

in deep love with the divine to the point of yes madness

but with a point a purpose not seeing easyly but if you

go beyond form to formless there stands Alister and yes Ramakrishna

and Vivekananda and all great ONES who the " world " deemed

touched twisted or mad these SONs Of The great Mother are the

wayshower to the LOVE of DIvine to MA's Blessed Heart.

 

These Sons walked in the lonely vales of Divine Madness of dividn

intoxacation Look A t RamaKrishna's Love so great so deep he lost his maleness

in the Female till He balanced both in MA's Love

 

Many have walked these vales and few have found the Path easy or with out peril

but by presverance and Faith we & they find the way the

GREAT MOTHER's HEART JAI MahaRaini JAL MAHA KALI-MA

 

With Love and Respect JMM

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<<<many in the west see this man as a evil one>>>

 

those who see this man as an evil one are those who are the victims of

the judeo-christian counterfeit morality -- the morality of the sick and

the weak and the self-abnegating coward, the morality of the slave. only

they see him as " evil " because this class of humans need a " evil " a

" devil " or a " satan " to keep them in business.

 

 

<<<and yes Ramakrishna and Vivekananda>>>

<<<Look A t RamaKrishna's Love so great so deep he lost his maleness in

the Female till He balanced both in MA's Love>>>

 

 

I wonder why only Ramakrishna comes up and only Ramakrishna is in the

minds of many people when they talk about Kali. Ramakrishna is quite

irrelevant, actually, when one truly understands the path of Kali. To

us, he is a failure, someoen irrelevant, rather then a role-model.

knowing only one name -- Ramakrishna -- since that is the one name often

marketed and sold large-scale in the west, actually serves as a blinder

for the seekers of Kali and her magik path of sadhana. There are many

other extremely worthy names -- luminaries in the world of Kali sadhana,

who go unnoticed by you all, because of the lopsided, hagiographic and

mostly bowdlerized, unhistorical Ramakrishna propaganda, by the

multi-national sannyas " corporation " found in his name.

 

 

regards -- Jit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Kali_Ma , " Jim M " <nightwolf1954 wrote:

>

>

> Jit,

> Beloved brother my multitoutious thanks

> for plublishing these words of Love & joy

> By Mister Crowely many in the west see this man as a evil one

> but look beyond the seeming chaos the " madness " and you might see a

soul in deep love with the divine to the point of yes madness

> but with a point a purpose not seeing easyly but if you

> go beyond form to formless there stands Alister and yes Ramakrishna

> and Vivekananda and all great ONES who the " world " deemed

> touched twisted or mad these SONs Of The great Mother are the

> wayshower to the LOVE of DIvine to MA's Blessed Heart.

>

> These Sons walked in the lonely vales of Divine Madness of dividn

intoxacation Look A t RamaKrishna's Love so great so deep he lost his

maleness in the Female till He balanced both in MA's Love

>

> Many have walked these vales and few have found the Path easy or with

out peril but by presverance and Faith we & they find the way the

> GREAT MOTHER's HEART JAI MahaRaini JAL MAHA KALI-MA

>

> With Love and Respect JMM

>

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In the words of a one Montgomery Burns "EXCELLENT". People can become so wrapped up and enthusiastic about a single spiritual path that they fail to see the validity of other paths and as importantly recognize those who have achieved 'excellence' or Siddhi or success in their paths. Aleister Crowley is one such induvidual. He has provoked much debate in the past and continues to do so to this day. I have several friends who practise Ceremonial Magics in the vein of Crowley, The Golden Dawn and other such things and they generally agree that he was a genius in his own particular way. Now, prior to the posting of that poem I had no idea he was also a devotee (of sorts) of Kali- though it isn't surprising. He worked or identified with several Divine archetypes in addition to pursueing his own path of self development. It is

refreshing to see some cross-path recognition outside of my small group of esoterically related friends. Continue the great work and may Kali always give you what you need. Blessed be and Om shantih/Om kali. SKG --- On Mon, 27/7/09, Jit Majumder <jitmajumder212 wrote:

Jit Majumder <jitmajumder212 Re: KALI BY Aleister CrowleyKali_Ma Received: Monday, 27 July, 2009, 11:20 PM

<<<many in the west see this man as a evil one>>>those who see this man as an evil one are those who are the victims ofthe judeo-christian counterfeit morality -- the morality of the sick andthe weak and the self-abnegating coward, the morality of the slave. onlythey see him as "evil" because this class of humans need a "evil" a"devil" or a "satan" to keep them in business.<<<and yes Ramakrishna and Vivekananda> >><<<Look A t RamaKrishna' s Love so great so deep he lost his maleness inthe Female till He balanced both in MA's Love>>>I wonder why only Ramakrishna comes up and only Ramakrishna is in theminds of many people when they talk about Kali. Ramakrishna is quiteirrelevant, actually, when one truly understands the path of Kali. Tous, he is a failure, someoen irrelevant, rather then a role-model.knowing only one name --

Ramakrishna -- since that is the one name oftenmarketed and sold large-scale in the west, actually serves as a blinderfor the seekers of Kali and her magik path of sadhana. There are manyother extremely worthy names -- luminaries in the world of Kali sadhana,who go unnoticed by you all, because of the lopsided, hagiographic andmostly bowdlerized, unhistorical Ramakrishna propaganda, by themulti-national sannyas "corporation" found in his name.regards -- JitKali_Ma@ .com, "Jim M" <nightwolf1954@ ...> wrote:>>> Jit,> Beloved brother my multitoutious thanks> for plublishing these words of Love & joy> By Mister Crowely many in the west see this man as a evil one> but look beyond the seeming

chaos the "madness" and you might see asoul in deep love with the divine to the point of yes madness> but with a point a purpose not seeing easyly but if you> go beyond form to formless there stands Alister and yes Ramakrishna> and Vivekananda and all great ONES who the "world" deemed> touched twisted or mad these SONs Of The great Mother are the> wayshower to the LOVE of DIvine to MA's Blessed Heart.>> These Sons walked in the lonely vales of Divine Madness of dividnintoxacation Look A t RamaKrishna' s Love so great so deep he lost hismaleness in the Female till He balanced both in MA's Love>> Many have walked these vales and few have found the Path easy or without peril but by presverance and Faith we & they find the way the> GREAT MOTHER's HEART JAI MahaRaini JAL MAHA KALI-MA>> With Love and Respect

JMM>

 

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Yes there is a lot more than Ramakrishna, there is Ramparasad , Kamalakanta, Tenali Ramakrishna, Krishnananda Agamavimsa,Mahakavi Bharathiar,Prahlad Chandra Bramachari, Ananda Thakur and etc. etc.

 

I found their biography in their folder at Kali Ma Sri Sri Siddeshwari Samrajyam

 

Jai Maa !!

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<<<Yes there is a lot more than Ramakrishna, there is Ramparasad , Kamalakanta, Tenali Ramakrishna, Krishnananda Agamavimsa,Mahakavi Bharathiar,Prahlad Chandra Bramachari, Ananda Thakur and etc. etc.>>>

....Vasistha, Bamakhepa, Raja Ramkrishna, Nigamananda, Sarvananda, Sri Aurobindo, Avadhut Nityananda, Anandamayi Ma, Dayamayi Ma, Amritanandamayi,.....

The problem is, unlike Ramakrishna, everyone does not happen to get a bunch of PROs like Keshav Chandra Sen, or 'M', with their cronies to popularise him and spread his name among the public, nor does everyone get invited and pampered in a ready-made temple complex built by a rich zamindar lady and handed a priests' job in that temple where one can get exposed to the public at large nicely and adequately at the beginning of one's 'guru career', nor does everyone get a english-educated, semi-westernised disciples to go abroad on lecture tours and spread his name and buld up a deified, prophetic image of him and start a multinational sannyas corporation in his name.

Had Ramakrishna none of these promotions, publicity, and platform right from the beginning, it is doubtful whether his name would have gone beyond the cultural boundaries of Bengal. and had he not a disciple by the name of Vivekananda, I doubt whether he would have been anything more than an obscure and local godman like every region and state in India had and have. and there would not have been tiniest possibility of any big and famous mission to his name. But the others, who were the real shakti-sadhakas -- and more accomplished and powerful then RK, did not have a multinational corporation in their name to spread their name and make them into international 'celebrities'.

that commerical sannyasi multinational called RK Mission would have people believe that Kali Sadhana starts and ends with RK. But that's their job -- they cannot be expected to do publicity for Bamakhepa or Anandamayi Ma. Each will hold up one's own mascot, and will promote only themselves. IBM cannot be expected to do marketing for Apple, not Coca-cola for Pepsi. But it is upto the people to inform and educate themselves, instead of letting their mental/ intellectual horizons be defined by media promotion and marketing for and by one particular sannyas corporation.

This tendency to be able to think of, and come up with, only one particular name, or one particular organization where Kali-sadhana or the Shakta tradition is concerned, indicates an intellectual blind-spot where non-Indians are concerned, and indicates both a blind-spot and a collective cultural amnesia, where Indians are concerned.

Thanks -- Jit

 

Kali_Ma , kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002 wrote:>> Yes there is a lot more than Ramakrishna, there is Ramparasad , Kamalakanta, Tenali Ramakrishna, Krishnananda Agamavimsa,Mahakavi Bharathiar,Prahlad Chandra Bramachari, Ananda Thakur and etc. etc.> > I found their biography in their folder at Kali Ma Sri Sri Siddeshwari Samrajyam > > Jai Maa !!>

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Hi everybody: Jit makes a really good point about the way certain people justifiably or not are put on pedestals. Another induvidual who was a devotee of Kali (as Smashan Tara) whom i feel needs mentioning is fellow who lived in Mumbai and for the purposes of the 3 books about him was called Vimalananda. His life and stories were put into print by his primary student Robert E Svaboda in the Aghora trilogy. He was as successful in his relationship with Ma'Tara and acquiring great siddhis as nearly any devotee could possibly be but did not seek fame or fortune. As an unique Aghori (not a member of the watered down sect of so called aghori's that seems to be cropping up these days) he had no time for dogma or other social constraints. These 3 books are my favourite reads: Aghora: At the left Hand of God, Aghora 2: Kundalini and Aghora 3: The Law of Karma.

Well worth a read.

Cheers everybody. SKG--- On Wed, 29/7/09, Jit Majumder <jitmajumder212 wrote:

Jit Majumder <jitmajumder212 Re: KALI BY Aleister CrowleyKali_Ma Received: Wednesday, 29 July, 2009, 8:08 PM

 

<<<Yes there is a lot more than Ramakrishna, there is Ramparasad , Kamalakanta, Tenali Ramakrishna, Krishnananda Agamavimsa,Mahakavi Bharathiar,Prahlad Chandra Bramachari, Ananda Thakur and etc. etc.>>>

....Vasistha, Bamakhepa, Raja Ramkrishna, Nigamananda, Sarvananda, Sri Aurobindo, Avadhut Nityananda, Anandamayi Ma, Dayamayi Ma, Amritanandamayi, .....

The problem is, unlike Ramakrishna, everyone does not happen to get a bunch of PROs like Keshav Chandra Sen, or 'M', with their cronies to popularise him and spread his name among the public, nor does everyone get invited and pampered in a ready-made temple complex built by a rich zamindar lady and handed a priests' job in that temple where one can get exposed to the public at large nicely and adequately at the beginning of one's 'guru career', nor does everyone get a english-educated, semi-westernised disciples to go abroad on lecture tours and spread his name and buld up a deified, prophetic image of him and start a multinational sannyas corporation in his name.

Had Ramakrishna none of these promotions, publicity, and platform right from the beginning, it is doubtful whether his name would have gone beyond the cultural boundaries of Bengal. and had he not a disciple by the name of Vivekananda, I doubt whether he would have been anything more than an obscure and local godman like every region and state in India had and have. and there would not have been tiniest possibility of any big and famous mission to his name. But the others, who were the real shakti-sadhakas -- and more accomplished and powerful then RK, did not have a multinational corporation in their name to spread their name and make them into international 'celebrities' .

that commerical sannyasi multinational called RK Mission would have people believe that Kali Sadhana starts and ends with RK. But that's their job -- they cannot be expected to do publicity for Bamakhepa or Anandamayi Ma. Each will hold up one's own mascot, and will promote only themselves. IBM cannot be expected to do marketing for Apple, not Coca-cola for Pepsi. But it is upto the people to inform and educate themselves, instead of letting their mental/ intellectual horizons be defined by media promotion and marketing for and by one particular sannyas corporation.

This tendency to be able to think of, and come up with, only one particular name, or one particular organization where Kali-sadhana or the Shakta tradition is concerned, indicates an intellectual blind-spot where non-Indians are concerned, and indicates both a blind-spot and a collective cultural amnesia, where Indians are concerned.

Thanks -- Jit

 

Kali_Ma@ .com, kanna krishnan <kanna_krishnan2002@ ...> wrote:>> Yes there is a lot more than Ramakrishna, there is Ramparasad , Kamalakanta, Tenali Ramakrishna, Krishnananda Agamavimsa,Mahakavi Bharathiar,Prahlad Chandra Bramachari, Ananda Thakur and etc. etc.> > I found their biography in their folder at Kali Ma Sri Sri Siddeshwari Samrajyam > > Jai Maa !!>

 

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What do you mean by that that you know Svoboda. Is there something that is not true. Please share it with us!!!2009/8/4 Surya <mahamuni

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just because someone writes something in a book, doesn't make it true.  Don't believe everything you read, or at least don't take it so literally, when there is money on the table in direct correlation with books sold.

 

And I know Svoboda.

 

JAI AMMA!

 

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I think I have spoken clearly enough.

 

JAI MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!