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I would like to ask the group if they have had any of these experiences.

 

I was chanting the Chandi Path and I had my car broken into, my toe

broke, and strange insects showed up in the house. I have never had my

car broken into, nor have ever broken any bone. Then I got a fever and

broke out in a rash. I actually believe my heart chakra opened. Does

any of this make any sense whatsoever?

 

Also, I'm a bit shy of gurus, because they want blind faith or they

want you to believe only what they say, and not what anyone else says.

I have a hard time with this.

 

Thanks for any help.

Shanti Om,

Shankari kali

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Is there a Hindu Temple near where you are? If so,

perhaps one of the priests can help. I assume you

asked Lord Ganesha for permission when you started

chanting the Chandi Path. It sounds like you opened up

a portal from this world to another where " things "

(spirits/energies) got in indiscriminately.

 

Blessings,

Stephen

 

--- Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote:

 

> I would like to ask the group if they have had any

> of these experiences.

 

 

Ganesa16

 

 

 

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HI dear friend, You should be happy that such things happened. When one is going to do virtue acts, obstacles will surface so that you will not do further. It is also a form of purifications and thus if you can overcome all these difficulties, you will reach another level of practice. How can doing chanting bring bad results?? It does not match, the causes and effects. All these happen, in the form of purifications. so not to worry. Thank you, With Best Regards, Tara Shankari Kali <shankari_kali wrote: I would like to ask the group if they have had any of these experiences.I was chanting the Chandi Path and I had my car broken into, my toebroke, and strange insects showed up in the house. I have never had mycar broken into, nor have ever broken any bone. Then I got a fever andbroke out in a rash. I actually believe my heart chakra opened. Doesany of this make any sense whatsoever?Also, I'm a bit shy of gurus, because they want blind faith or theywant you to believe only what they say, and not what anyone else says.I have a hard time with this. Thanks for any help.Shanti Om,Shankari kali

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R u O.K.?

May god bless you.

I can'nt help you.But i'm praying for you.

Jai MAA KALI.

 

 

Kali_Ma , " Shankari Kali " <shankari_kali

wrote:

>

> I would like to ask the group if they have had any of these

experiences.

>

> I was chanting the Chandi Path and I had my car broken into, my toe

> broke, and strange insects showed up in the house. I have never

had my

> car broken into, nor have ever broken any bone. Then I got a fever

and

> broke out in a rash. I actually believe my heart chakra opened.

Does

> any of this make any sense whatsoever?

>

> Also, I'm a bit shy of gurus, because they want blind faith or they

> want you to believe only what they say, and not what anyone else

says.

> I have a hard time with this.

>

> Thanks for any help.

> Shanti Om,

> Shankari kali

>

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Hi

 

How long have you been chanting chandi and when did the first of these

incidents happen ?

 

 

Isn't anahata suppose to open after manipura? There are lot of changes

that come with the heart chakra opening.

 

Regards

Sumanta

 

Kali_Ma , " Shankari Kali " <shankari_kali wrote:

>

> I would like to ask the group if they have had any of these experiences.

>

> I was chanting the Chandi Path and I had my car broken into, my toe

> broke, and strange insects showed up in the house. I have never had my

> car broken into, nor have ever broken any bone. Then I got a fever and

> broke out in a rash. I actually believe my heart chakra opened. Does

> any of this make any sense whatsoever?

>

> Also, I'm a bit shy of gurus, because they want blind faith or they

> want you to believe only what they say, and not what anyone else says.

> I have a hard time with this.

>

> Thanks for any help.

> Shanti Om,

> Shankari kali

>

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Shankari Kali - the following being asked not to challenge but

rather with all due respect - why might the recently transpired

events have a correlation to Kali - any more or less so than any

other chaotic series of events that occur through life? Is there a

reason to attribute these events to a divine nature (i mean, i

believe everything in life, no matter how seemingly mundane - is of

a divine nature - but outside of that boundary, is there a reason to

attach to this series of events - any higher relevancy than say, any

other event(s) in life)?

 

Stephen - if Shankari Kali was to ask Lord Ganesha for approval -

how would she know if an approval was granted?

 

How would one know if their heart chakra (or any other chakra, for

that matter) was opened? What does it mean to " open a chakra " ?

 

I'm reading a book, " Kali's Odiyya " and one of the very interesting

points that it makes is that the more we question something - the

more we lose of the experience. Sometimes in our attempt to

rationalize an event (which is only natural) - we end up losing the

essence of the spirit of the event. Thus, it might behoove the

seeker to experience and observe but without attempt at rationale

and question - for the very nature of rationale would dictate that

how can one apply rationale and logic to experience(s) that

transcend our knowledge and understanding - interesting paradox!! I

don't pretend i know the answer (because like anyone, my instinct is

to attempt to rationale - which i guess it takes discipline to

overcome and instead .. just " accept " rather than rationale) - but

it sure does make one think.

 

 

 

Kali_Ma , " sumantkb " <sumantkb wrote:

>

> Hi

>

> How long have you been chanting chandi and when did the first of

these

> incidents happen ?

>

>

> Isn't anahata suppose to open after manipura? There are lot of

changes

> that come with the heart chakra opening.

>

> Regards

> Sumanta

>

> Kali_Ma , " Shankari Kali " <shankari_kali@>

wrote:

> >

> > I would like to ask the group if they have had any of these

experiences.

> >

> > I was chanting the Chandi Path and I had my car broken into, my

toe

> > broke, and strange insects showed up in the house. I have never

had my

> > car broken into, nor have ever broken any bone. Then I got a

fever and

> > broke out in a rash. I actually believe my heart chakra opened.

Does

> > any of this make any sense whatsoever?

> >

> > Also, I'm a bit shy of gurus, because they want blind faith or

they

> > want you to believe only what they say, and not what anyone else

says.

> > I have a hard time with this.

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

> > Shanti Om,

> > Shankari kali

> >

>

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--- Andy <happytheclown37 wrote:

> Stephen - if Shankari Kali was to ask Lord Ganesha

> for approval -

> how would she know if an approval was granted?

 

Do you think I just made this up? In Hinduism, Ganesha

is the gatekeeper. Basically what is done is a Ganesha

mantra is chanted first, I think. If you want to know

more, I suggest you ask a scholar, which I am not. In

my opinion, though, Ganesha doesn't usually say 'No',

assuming the worshipper is sincere. Many

spiritualities have gatekeepers. In Yoruban pathways,

it is Eshu. There are variations of this name. In

ancient Greek religions, it is Hestia. There are other

examples.

 

 

 

 

 

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I'm not sure if my question came across in an unintended manner

because i sense hostility (perhaps i'm mistaken?) in your reply

below? If so, i assure you - none is necessary as there is no

hostility in my questions as they were posed.

 

Perhaps you can advise me on what particular aspect(s) of my

question came across in a manner to suggest that i was implying that

you did - or did not - make anything up?

 

If i don't know something - I ask. I believe that is a logical

action to take when wanting to learn something. As the statement was

made not by a scholar - but rather - by yourself, i would think it

logical that if i have a question based on a statement you made -

that i would first ask, well ... you. Asking a question need not be

indicative of challenging one's knowledge - but rather an attempt at

increasing one's own awareness.

 

I was not/(am not) actually looking for a scholarly answer - or a

non-scholarly answer - just " your " answer - need be nothing more

than that.

 

Please accept that comments i made are of my own observations,

knowledge, ignorance, lack of knowledge - any and all combined -

nothing need be taken personal - in any form - i'm hoping that can

be understood and agreed upon and moved beyond. That having been

said....

 

I find that interesting about Ganesha being a gatekeeper of sorts,

as i've never heard him referred to in that fashion. My (i'm sure,

very limited) understanding of Ganesha - is that he is a remover of

obstacles. Although i can certainly see how that can correlate to

being a gatekeeper, because being a remover of obstacles - he can

open the gate to someone moving beyond that obstacle which prevents

them further motion. Although i've not before came across the

necessity of asking Ganesha for permission in specifics regards to a

mantra - that doesn't mean i'm saying it's not so - nor does it mean

i'm agreeing - it just means that it's not information i've been

priivy to in my short jaundice thus far into hinduism.

 

thank you for the explanation and insight you have shared.

 

namaste

 

Kali_Ma , ganesa16 <ganesa16 wrote:

>

>

> --- Andy <happytheclown37 wrote:

> > Stephen - if Shankari Kali was to ask Lord Ganesha

> > for approval -

> > how would she know if an approval was granted?

>

> Do you think I just made this up? In Hinduism, Ganesha

> is the gatekeeper. Basically what is done is a Ganesha

> mantra is chanted first, I think. If you want to know

> more, I suggest you ask a scholar, which I am not. In

> my opinion, though, Ganesha doesn't usually say 'No',

> assuming the worshipper is sincere. Many

> spiritualities have gatekeepers. In Yoruban pathways,

> it is Eshu. There are variations of this name. In

> ancient Greek religions, it is Hestia. There are other

> examples.

>

>

>

>

>

> Ganesa16

>

>

>

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--- Andy <happytheclown37 wrote:

 

> I'm not sure if my question came across in an

> unintended manner

> because i sense hostility (perhaps i'm mistaken?) in

> your reply

> below? If so, i assure you - none is necessary as

> there is no

> hostility in my questions as they were posed.

 

Oh, okay, sorry about that. I have a pattern of

running into people who summarily reject ideas that

they didn't think of themselves; in fact it is a way

of life for me. So, I can be defensive, at times. But,

yes many ancient religions have deities that must be

worshipped first, and people new to the religion often

must ask permission to worship the deities of those

traditions, from this " gatekeeper " as I call them.

Since many European, and other folks,

religions have been wiped out; who knows how many

gatekeepers we are unknowledgable of. For more

information, on Ganesha as " gatekeeper " , and remember

" gatekeeper " might just be my label of it; you may ask

any authority in Hinduism, like at a temple, if you

have access to one.

 

 

 

 

Ganesa16

 

 

 

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