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--- On Wed, 3/24/10, Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr wrote:

Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr[JyotishWritings] Re: D-60 and rebirth?vedic astrology , , JyotishWritings Cc: jhora Date: Wednesday, March 24, 2010, 4:34 PM

Namaste,Taking Saturn as lagna to see the reasons for present birth is logical. However, do not expect that chart to either match or have a strong correlation with the previous life's rasi chart.For example, you can test with the rebirth example chart data collected by Sri KN Rao. He collected the past life and current life charts of people who recollected past lives and their recollection was verified independently by confirming the specific details mentioned by them.In those charts, there is no link between current life rasi chart with Saturn as lagna and past life rasi chart.Past life chart shows the karmas one carried to earth in past life. The results of some of those karmas would've been experienced and some new karmas would've been added. Thus, karmas to be experienced in next life can be different. The modified karmas are shown in the next life chart. Do not expect a clear correlation between next life chart

and previous life chart.Punya chakra or death chart is perhaps more important, as it can capture the karmas upto death. Moreover, shastras say the rebirth is decided by the final desire/thought. Punya chakra can have a blueprint of the final thought. Theoretically, new life's birth chart should be a function of both past life's birth chart and past life's death chart.BTW, please take further discussion to vedic astrology and stop this thread on jhora. Jhora is for software discussions.Best regards,Narasimha------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,"Do It Yourself" ritual manuals for short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:http://www.VedicAst rologer.orgFilms that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFil ms.orgSpirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdomJyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- ----- Sun <theblisswithin@ > wrote: > Regarding this I would like to submit some hint that was givn by Great Astrolger H.N. Katwe. He had mentioned it in his book that Saturn's house in present natal chart should be taken as a lagna and from that he suggested to judge Karmas of Past life and the reason of the present birth. > > Dear Sh.

Niranjan> Just to verify if I understood correctly, if someone has Saturn in Aries, and Mars in Taurus etc...Did you mean in the above case the lagna of the past life chart should be read as Aries in that case? And that Mars then will be in their second house and the rest of the planets will be accordingly changed?> > So for example if someone has already Saturn in Aries in lagna this life time. This chart itself is the same chart for the past life also?> > > Thanks> Shiv> > Extremely sorry for not able to provid you wiht the name of the book as I read it in some library and at that time I was in industrial field having no public relation through strology point of view. Ao I did not fine it necessary to record the name of the book. But from his suggesstion I tried to understand my own horoscop and to the extent of 50% it withstands.> > > > Nirnajan Sant > >

> > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Narasimha PVR Rao <pvr> > vedic astrology; ; JyotishWritings; jhora > > Sent:

Fri, 19 March, 2010 8:08:28 AM> > D-60 and rebirth?> > > > Â > > Namaste,> > > > D-60 is an abstract/mathematic al chart and NOT a physical chart. Angle between Mercury and Venus can be anything.> > > > * * *> > > > > It is widely claimed that D-60 is a blueprint of previous birth.> > > > This is merely the claim of ONE school of Jyotish (SJC). This principle did not hold up in my studies.> > > > It is very easy to pass off any claims regarding past life, as they cannot really be verified. How to evaluate them then?> > > > Sri KN Rao did some interesting research in this area. There are some authentic cases of people who recollected their past life details. The stories they told were independently verified by researchers, i.e. indeed someone described by them lived and died

in the place mentioned by them. In a few confirmed cases of rebirth, Sri KN Rao collected the previous life's birthdata, previous life's death data and current life's birthdata. A few examples are given in his book on "Rebirth". Apart from giving valuable data, he also made a very interesting and astute observation on Vimsottari dasa continuity, i.e. links between mahadasa/antardasa at death and mahadasa/antardasa at rebirth.> > > > Given that that is the only authentic data we have regarding rebirth, any valid principles must satisfy them. When I perused that data and tried to see links between current life's D-60 chart and previous life's rasi chart, I could not find any significant links. Forget the idea of D-60 being a "blueprint" of last life's rasi chart, but there were not even any vague links.> > > > * * *> > > > BTW, there were some interesting links I discovered in those examples,

using Jagannatha ayanamsa and true nodes, between current life's D-144 and previous life's D-144 (no lagna, only planets considered). Some interesting planetary combinations get repeated in the two charts. D-144 is the D-12 (creation) of D-12 (creation). It seems to hold some keys to the secrets of the soul.> > > > There were a few interesting links I discovered, but I did not find any links between D-60 and rebirth. Also, there is no link between chara aatma karaka in the two charts as speculated by some.> > > > Bottomline: D-60 may not have any link to previous life's rasi chart. Especially, it may not be a "blueprint" of last life's rasi chart.> > > > Best regards,> > Narasimha> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > Free Jyotish Software, Free Jyotish Lessons, Jyotish Writings,> > "Do It Yourself" ritual manuals for

short Homam and Pitri Tarpana:> > http://www.VedicAst rologer.org> > Films that make a difference: http://SaraswatiFil ms.org> > Spirituality: http://groups. / group/vedic- wisdom> > Jyotish writings: http://groups. / group/JyotishWri tings> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > > ---- sree ven <jyothishishya@ > wrote: > > > > > > Folks, > > > For a native born on 11th January 1969@14:50pm@ 79E40 & 11N06 (Mayuram, Tamilnadu), > > > while using Jhora (7.4 beta 2), I find Venus and Mercury separated by 113 degrees in D-60.>

> > > > > It is widely claimed that D-60 is a blueprint of previous birth. How is it that these two planets show a separation of 113 degrees whereas astronomically, max elongation is (28+47=)75 degrees? I can understand this kind of separation in certain other divisions, but not in Rasi or D60.> > > > > > Pl. educate me by pointing out where I went wrong.> > > > > > Thanks.