Lord Chaitanya was an Aprakrita Sahajiya (Following the Transcendental Easy Pat

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Yes, Robb, I agree with you. Thanks!Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrown.comOn Feb 8, 2010, at 10:19 AM, "robb7thurston" <robb7thurston wrote:

 

 

This question was requested of me: Please qualify your Sahajiya, as "Prakrita Sahajiya", because there is is nothing wrong with "easy"--sahaj. Compared to Shunyavada and Brahmavada, Bhakti IS easy. It's a lot easier to "love Krishna" than it is to be attracted toward the Void and the Brahmajyoti.

Here is my answer. It is a succinct definition of Sahajiya,or as you insist, Prakrita Sahajiya. Lord Chaitanya and His followers like Prabhupapda are aprakrita sahajiyas. They follow the flow of transcendental energy whereas the prakrita sahajiyas mistake the mundane or prakata or prakrita for the transcendental (divya sakti). There is no end of tension between aprakrita and prakrita sahajism.

NB It is not just slackers in the West who are slightly loose with the tern "Sahajiya." It is also quite badly abused in Hindi and Bengali as well.

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Dandavat, Robb!!!Now that the subject of Sahajiya has been broached, I bet there are many members who may not know about it. It would be good teaching if you could expound, with examples, on the difference between Prakrita-sahajiya and Aprakrita. Many people will appreciate, and some will disagree altogether, depending if they are dvaitavadin or advaitavadin at heart, as is the case among Hindus.Bhakti or Dvaitavad is more attractive (and thus easier) than Shunyavad or Brahmavad - which essentially are suggesting "spiritual suicide" - which is, basically, impossible because the atma is sat-chit-ananda in essence.It's good to discuss this here. Please carry on... We look forward to your next post.Y/s,R-Richard Shaw Brown, PGMusician, Designer, Gemologist & Authorwww.richardshawbrown.com--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Rick Brown <rsbj66 wrote:Rick Brown <rsbj66Re: Lord Chaitanya was an Aprakrita Sahajiya (Following the Transcendental Easy Pat"sacred-objects " <sacred-objects >Monday, 8 February, 2010, 12:20 PM

 

 

Yes, Robb, I agree with you. Thanks!Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrow n.comOn Feb 8, 2010, at 10:19 AM, "robb7thurston" <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

This question was requested of me: Please qualify your Sahajiya, as "Prakrita Sahajiya", because there is is nothing wrong with "easy"--sahaj. Compared to Shunyavada and Brahmavada, Bhakti IS easy. It's a lot easier to "love Krishna" than it is to be attracted toward the Void and the Brahmajyoti.

Here is my answer. It is a succinct definition of Sahajiya,or as you insist, Prakrita Sahajiya. Lord Chaitanya and His followers like Prabhupapda are aprakrita sahajiyas. They follow the flow of transcendental energy whereas the prakrita sahajiyas mistake the mundane or prakata or prakrita for the transcendental (divya sakti). There is no end of tension between aprakrita and prakrita sahajism.

NB It is not just slackers in the West who are slightly loose with the tern "Sahajiya." It is also quite badly abused in Hindi and Bengali as well.

Best!

Robb

 

 

 

 

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Dandavat, Robb!!!Now that the subject of Sahajiya has been broached, I bet there are many members who may not know about it. It would be good teaching if you could expound, with examples, on the difference between Prakrita-sahajiya and Aprakrita. Many people will appreciate, and some will disagree altogether, depending if they are dvaitavadin or advaitavadin at heart, as is the case among Hindus.Bhakti or Dvaitavad is more attractive (and thus easier) than Shunyavad or Brahmavad - which essentially are suggesting "spiritual suicide" - which is, basically, impossible because the atma is sat-chit-ananda in essence.It's good to discuss this here. Please carry on... We look forward to your next post.Y/s,R-Richard Shaw Brown, PGMusician, Designer, Gemologist & Authorwww.richardshawbrow n.com--- On Mon, 8/2/10, Rick Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

Rick Brown <rsbj66 >Re: Lord Chaitanya was an Aprakrita Sahajiya (Following the Transcendental Easy Pat"sacred-objects" <sacred-objects>Monday, 8 February, 2010, 12:20 PM

 

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On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:19 AM, "robb7thurston" <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> wrote:

 

 

This question was requested of me: Please qualify your Sahajiya, as "Prakrita Sahajiya", because there is is nothing wrong with "easy"--sahaj. Compared to Shunyavada and Brahmavada, Bhakti IS easy. It's a lot easier to "love Krishna" than it is to be attracted toward the Void and the Brahmajyoti.Here is my answer. It is a succinct definition of Sahajiya,or as you insist, Prakrita Sahajiya. Lord Chaitanya and His followers like Prabhupapda are aprakrita sahajiyas. They follow the flow of transcendental energy whereas the prakrita sahajiyas mistake the mundane or prakata or prakrita for the transcendental (divya sakti). There is no end of tension between aprakrita and prakrita sahajism.NB It is not just slackers in the West who are slightly loose with the tern "Sahajiya." It is also quite badly abused in Hindi and Bengali as well.Best!Robb

 

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Dear Shyamasundarji,

 

Namaste!!! Sorry but you misunderstood this post by my godbrother. It is not

about Sahajiya (which mostly refers to Materialistic " Prakrita " Sahajiya

perversion, viz., Aouls, Bauls, Ratikeli, and Sakhiveshi). What the writer was

referring to was just a play on words: " Sahaj " simply means " easy " , and compared

to dry Brahma-jnana or Shunyavad, Lord Chaintanya's bhakti method is easy,

because of attraction of Krishna. So he was saying that Prabhupada was a

Spiritualist (Aprakrita), taking the easy spiritual path (Aprakrita-Sahajiya) of

Bhakti. It's just a play on the word " easy " between my godbrother and I.

 

But we all agree with you that Sahajiya (which usually means prakrita-sahajiya)

is bogus and mundane. But please understand, it is correct to say what he said,

which means = Transcendental Bhakti is " most easy " form of Sadhana in Sanatan

Dharma.

 

So you are correct, but not in this case...

 

BTW: Don't forget that I am a direct personal associate of Srila Prabhupada -

who spoke with him loads in Bengali, did a book translation with him, and spent

intimate time as his assistant - as a specially Gaudiya Math trained-up

disciple, who Prabhupada initiated in 1967. And my godbrother who sent the post

is also Prabhupada's direct personal associate. I'm not sure if you ever met

Prabhupada. Not everyone was so fortunate.

 

Best wishes,

R-

 

sacred-objects , 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA

SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote:

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> Immitation!

>  

> Perverted Immitation!

>  

> Who is the ENJOYER!

>  

> Who is the ENJOYED!

>  

> Syama

>

> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:

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> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66

> Re: Lord Chaitanya was an Aprakrita Sahajiya

(Following the Transcendental Easy Pat

> sacred-objects

> Monday, February 8, 2010, 1:53 AM

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Dandavat, Robb!!!

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> Now that the subject of Sahajiya has been broached, I bet there are many

members who may not know about it. It would be good teaching if you could

expound, with examples, on the difference between Prakrita-sahajiya and

Aprakrita. Many people will appreciate, and some will disagree altogether,

depending if they are dvaitavadin or advaitavadin at heart, as is the case among

Hindus.

>

> Bhakti or Dvaitavad is more attractive (and thus easier) than Shunyavad or

Brahmavad - which essentially are suggesting " spiritual suicide " - which is,

basically, impossible because the atma is sat-chit-ananda in essence.

>

> It's good to discuss this here. Please carry on... We look forward to your

next post.

>

> Y/s,

> R-

>

>

> Richard Shaw Brown, PG

> Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author

> www.richardshawbrow n.com

>

> --- On Mon, 8/2/10, Rick Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:

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> Rick Brown <rsbj66 >

> Re: Lord Chaitanya was an Aprakrita Sahajiya

(Following the Transcendental Easy Pat

> " sacred-objects " <sacred-objects>

> Monday, 8 February, 2010, 12:20 PM

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> Yes, Robb, I agree with you. Thanks!

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> Rick Brown's iPhone

> www.richardshawbrow n.com

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> On Feb 8, 2010, at 10:19 AM, " robb7thurston " <robb7thurston@ gmail.com> wrote:

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> This question was requested of me: Please qualify your Sahajiya, as " Prakrita

Sahajiya " , because there is is nothing wrong with " easy " --sahaj. Compared to

Shunyavada and Brahmavada, Bhakti IS easy. It's a lot easier to " love Krishna "

than it is to be attracted toward the Void and the Brahmajyoti.

> Here is my answer. It is a succinct definition of Sahajiya,or as you insist,

Prakrita Sahajiya. Lord Chaitanya and His followers like Prabhupapda are

aprakrita sahajiyas. They follow the flow of transcendental energy whereas the

prakrita sahajiyas mistake the mundane or prakata or prakrita for the

transcendental (divya sakti). There is no end of tension between aprakrita and

prakrita sahajism.

> NB It is not just slackers in the West who are slightly loose with the tern

" Sahajiya. " It is also quite badly abused in Hindi and Bengali as well.

> Best!

> Robb

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