Guest guest Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Dear all, I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum " Lakshmi Conch " shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. Anyone know for sure about Indian law? Y/s, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Sir, I had some time back discussion with Mr. Kumar of http://www.dakshinavartishankha.com/ and he told that items traded legally approved by Indian Gazette can be exported with gazette documents. Infact valampuri fishing is banned in Srilanka, so it is smuggled to other parts and sold at very high cost. sacred-objects , " rsbj66 " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear all, > > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum " Lakshmi Conch " shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. > > Anyone know for sure about Indian law? > > Y/s, > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Sir, Please read this article http://www.tamilnet.com/art.html?catid=13 & artid=30624 sacred-objects , " rsbj66 " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear all, > > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum " Lakshmi Conch " shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. > > Anyone know for sure about Indian law? > > Y/s, > Richard > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Richard jee ,This is TRUE .I have seen the notice board in and around custom's/immigration Airports stating clearly "Turbinella Pyrum" export out of india is illegal. My sitings have been in "KOLKATA and i think CHENNAI". RegardsKartickrsbj66 <rsbj66To: sacred-objects Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 1:49:24 AM Lakshmi Conch export illegal? Dear all, I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum "Lakshmi Conch" shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. Anyone know for sure about Indian law? Y/s, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Respected Shri. Richard ji, Thank you very much for your posing. The export of Sri Lakshmi Shankh i.e. sinistral variety of Turbinella pyrum from India is not illegal. The mollusk species Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) is not covered under the Wild Life Protection Act 1972. As per law, export and also import of only those species covered under the Wild Life Protecion Act, 1972 of Govt. of India is legally banned. There are total 32 species of mollusks covered under the list and as stated earlier does not covers sinistral and dextral varieties of the species Turbinella pyrum. Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke --- On Mon, 25/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote: rsbj66 <rsbj66 Lakshmi Conch export illegal?sacred-objects Date: Monday, 25 January, 2010, 1:49 AM Dear all,I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum "Lakshmi Conch" shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka.Anyone know for sure about Indian law?Y/s,Richard The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 dear onessee the value even though it is only turbinella pyrum,as says many in the groupmany in this group have said it is not valampuri conchwhat else is this?the material may be different however the rarity is therekrsnIshwar <ishwar33sacred-objects Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:48:59 Re: Lakshmi Conch export illegal? Sir, Please read this article http://www.tamilnet .com/art. html?catid= 13 & artid= 30624 sacred-objects, "rsbj66" <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear all, > > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum "Lakshmi Conch" shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. > > Anyone know for sure about Indian law? > > Y/s, > Richard > Get your new Email address! Grab the Email name you've always wanted before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Dear Bhai, Good to hear from you. I knew we could get the right answer from you. The problem is, the customs dept can " claim " it is illegal, and take it from travelers, and once customs has it... good bye Shank!!! As it has been seen posted at some airports. All the Wildlife Quotes won't stop customs from taking if they see. What to do? Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > Respected Shri. Richard ji, >  > Thank you very much for your posing. The export of Sri Lakshmi Shankh i.e. sinistral variety of Turbinella pyrum from India is not illegal. The mollusk species Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) is not covered under the Wild Life Protection Act 1972. >  > As per law, export and also import of only those species covered under the Wild Life Protecion Act, 1972 of Govt. of India is legally banned. There are total 32 species of mollusks covered under the list and as stated earlier does not covers sinistral and dextral varieties of the species Turbinella pyrum. >  > Thanking you and with regards, >  > Chandrashekhar Phadke >  > > > --- On Mon, 25/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote: > > > rsbj66 <rsbj66 > Lakshmi Conch export illegal? > sacred-objects > Monday, 25 January, 2010, 1:49 AM > > >  > > > > Dear all, > > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum " Lakshmi Conch " shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. > > Anyone know for sure about Indian law? > > Y/s, > Richard > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum IS Lakshmi Shank! sacred-objects , KRISNA <paraman777 wrote: > > dear ones > see the value even though it is only turbinella pyrum,as says many in the group > many in this group have said it is not valampuri conch > what else is this?the material may be different however the rarity is there > krsn > > > > > ________________________________ > Ishwar <ishwar33 > sacred-objects > Monday, January 25, 2010 10:48:59 > Re: Lakshmi Conch export illegal? > > > > Sir, > > Please read this article > > http://www.tamilnet .com/art. html?catid= 13 & artid= 30624 > > sacred-objects, " rsbj66 " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum " Lakshmi Conch " shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka. > > > > Anyone know for sure about Indian law? > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > Get your new Email address! > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does! > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Respected Shri. Richardji, Thank you very much for your reply and sorry for delay. The custom experience you have mentioned is very common. The major problem is; custom officers can not differentiate (or do not want to differentiate ?) in seashell species covered under the law and seashell species out of the ban. Unfortunately, a traveller has to convince them properly and justify their case. I would like to note that a custom officer, can not confisticate the shell or any item by law. As per the existing rules, the item which is not allowed to take out of the country, can be retained for a period of one month to three months in cargo if traveller agrees. In such case, a traveller can give authority to somebody to collect the item after paying the cargo rental charges. If a traveller is unable to do so, then the item is confisticated by custom officers. Personally, I feel that a trader has to take responsibility to return the money if the shell is not allowed to take out of India. The problem arises due to following developments earlier in the year 2001. It is necessary to know that Govt of India had imposed a blanket ban on most of the marine species in July 2001 during BJP rule. It is interesting to note that practically most of the sea shell species (total 52 mollusk species), all species of Shark and Ray, all Giant Grouper Fish species, all Corals and Sponges, 'Sea-Horse', 'Sea Fans' ( 'Indra Jal' ) and 'Sea-Cucumbers' were covered under the Wild Life Protection Act, 1972 vide July 2001 notification. As per the basic provisions of the law, export, import, domestic trading, and storing of all species covererd under the law are banned and invites legal action. There was a strong reaction from South Indian states (Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra and Karnataka) and also from Orissa and West Bengal. Finally, Govt. of India changed its decision and lifted the ban on many of mollusc species in December 2001 for socio-economic reasons. Naturally, the ban on sacred conch shell, Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) was also lifted only after 5 months. The species Turbinella pyrum (both dextral and sinistral ) and 'Sri Ganesh Shankh', Cymatium perryi were also covered under the ban. Both of these species are now out of the ban.vide amendment made in December 2001. The species Turbinella pyrum was known earlier as Xancus pyrum. Presently there is ban on only 24 mollusc species, out of which, 9 species are covered under Schedule I, and 15 species under Schedule IV of the WPA, 1972. However, it is important to note that there is a ban on famous 'Moti Shankh' species Trochus niloticus and Turbo marmopratus covered under Schedule IV, however, 'Gomukh Shankh' Cypracassis rufa and Cassis cornuta are covered under the Schedule !. There is also ban on three cowrie species; Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke --- On Tue, 26/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote: rsbj66 <rsbj66 Re: Lakshmi Conch export illegal?sacred-objects Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:05 AM Dear Bhai,Good to hear from you. I knew we could get the right answer from you.The problem is, the customs dept can "claim" it is illegal, and take it from travelers, and once customs has it... good bye Shank!!!As it has been seen posted at some airports. All the Wildlife Quotes won't stop customs from taking if they see. What to do?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke@.. .> wrote:>> Respected Shri. Richard ji,>  > Thank you very much for your posing. The export of Sri Lakshmi Shankh i.e. sinistral variety of Turbinella pyrum from India is not illegal. The mollusk species Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) is not covered under the Wild Life Protection Act 1972. >  > As per law, export and also import of only those species covered under the Wild Life Protecion Act, 1972 of Govt. of India is legally banned. There are total 32 species of mollusks covered under the list and as stated earlier does not covers sinistral and dextral varieties of the species Turbinella pyrum.>  > Thanking you and with regards,>  > Chandrashekhar Phadke>  > > > --- On Mon, 25/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote:> > > rsbj66 <rsbj66> Lakshmi Conch export illegal?> sacred-objects> Monday, 25 January, 2010, 1:49 AM> > >  > > > > Dear all,> > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum "Lakshmi Conch" shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka.> > Anyone know for sure about Indian law?> > Y/s,> Richard> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 4, 2010 Report Share Posted February 4, 2010 Wow!!! Great reply. Much thanks...Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrown.comOn Feb 3, 2010, at 1:56 PM, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: Respected Shri. Richardji, Thank you very much for your reply and sorry for delay. The custom experience you have mentioned is very common. The major problem is; custom officers can not differentiate (or do not want to differentiate ?) in seashell species covered under the law and seashell species out of the ban. Unfortunately, a traveller has to convince them properly and justify their case. I would like to note that a custom officer, can not confisticate the shell or any item by law. As per the existing rules, the item which is not allowed to take out of the country, can be retained for a period of one month to three months in cargo if traveller agrees. In such case, a traveller can give authority to somebody to collect the item after paying the cargo rental charges. If a traveller is unable to do so, then the item is confisticated by custom officers. Personally, I feel that a trader has to take responsibility to return the money if the shell is not allowed to take out of India. The problem arises due to following developments earlier in the year 2001. It is necessary to know that Govt of India had imposed a blanket ban on most of the marine species in July 2001 during BJP rule. It is interesting to note that practically most of the sea shell species (total 52 mollusk species), all species of Shark and Ray, all Giant Grouper Fish species, all Corals and Sponges, 'Sea-Horse', 'Sea Fans' ( 'Indra Jal' ) and 'Sea-Cucumbers' were covered under the Wild Life Protection Act, 1972 vide July 2001 notification. As per the basic provisions of the law, export, import, domestic trading, and storing of all species covererd under the law are banned and invites legal action. There was a strong reaction from South Indian states (Tamil Nadu, Kerala, Andhra and Karnataka) and also from Orissa and West Bengal. Finally, Govt. of India changed its decision and lifted the ban on many of mollusc species in December 2001 for socio-economic reasons. Naturally, the ban on sacred conch shell, Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) was also lifted only after 5 months. The species Turbinella pyrum (both dextral and sinistral ) and 'Sri Ganesh Shankh', Cymatium perryi were also covered under the ban. Both of these species are now out of the ban.vide amendment made in December 2001. The species Turbinella pyrum was known earlier as Xancus pyrum. Presently there is ban on only 24 mollusc species, out of which, 9 species are covered under Schedule I, and 15 species under Schedule IV of the WPA, 1972. However, it is important to note that there is a ban on famous 'Moti Shankh' species Trochus niloticus and Turbo marmopratus covered under Schedule IV, however, 'Gomukh Shankh' Cypracassis rufa and Cassis cornuta are covered under the Schedule !. There is also ban on three cowrie species; Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke --- On Tue, 26/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 > wrote: rsbj66 <rsbj66 > Re: Lakshmi Conch export illegal?sacred-objects Date: Tuesday, 26 January, 2010, 2:05 AM Dear Bhai,Good to hear from you. I knew we could get the right answer from you.The problem is, the customs dept can "claim" it is illegal, and take it from travelers, and once customs has it... good bye Shank!!!As it has been seen posted at some airports. All the Wildlife Quotes won't stop customs from taking if they see. What to do?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke@.. .> wrote:>> Respected Shri. Richard ji,>  > Thank you very much for your posing. The export of Sri Lakshmi Shankh i.e. sinistral variety of Turbinella pyrum from India is not illegal. The mollusk species Turbinella pyrum (dextral and sinistral) is not covered under the Wild Life Protection Act 1972. >  > As per law, export and also import of only those species covered under the Wild Life Protecion Act, 1972 of Govt. of India is legally banned. There are total 32 species of mollusks covered under the list and as stated earlier does not covers sinistral and dextral varieties of the species Turbinella pyrum.>  > Thanking you and with regards,>  > Chandrashekhar Phadke>  > > > --- On Mon, 25/1/10, rsbj66 <rsbj66 wrote:> > > rsbj66 <rsbj66> Lakshmi Conch export illegal?> sacred-objects> Monday, 25 January, 2010, 1:49 AM> > >  > > > > Dear all,> > I just heard from reliable source that Valampuri Turbinella Pyrum "Lakshmi Conch" shells are illegal to sell in or export out of India. But they ARE legal in Sri Lanka.> > Anyone know for sure about Indian law?> > Y/s,> Richard> > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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