Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 I was told by one person that Sri Garuda Purana is wrong in condemning " flaws " in gems, because he had the " Dosha-shastra " which gives the benefits of having different serious flaws in a gem. Let's call it the BOOK OF GEM DEFECT GLORIES. Pretty funny!!! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " sujay_govindaraj " <sujay_govindaraj wrote: > > Hello Sir, > > I have studied garuda purana, we should also consider other literature also like ratna shastras by different sages, the only thing we are not able to collect adequate evidence. I had posted this topic to know whether any other person is prefering this way of prediction or not and if so to gain some more knowledge from his practice. > > The topic is not about the black diamonds, but it is about the study predictions of gemstones to upagrahas. I have just given the illustration or example to describe in detail. > > Might be black diamond is tamasic but it is beneficial for some. > > Kindly share your knowledge; if someone in this group who considers upagrahas for the predictions. > > Regards > > sacred-objects , " rsbj66 " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > Your NEW concept is noted. Black diamond is to be worn? I would never wear a black diamond. Nor ever recommend it. > > > > Besides Diamond (of any color) is NOT an uparatna, it is Maharatna.. > > > > We're not interested in NEW concepts unless they are based on extensive testing and Shastra direction. Kindly give us evidence. > > > > Here is evidence from Sri Garuda Puranam in contrary to your imagination: > > > > " Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna, lord of the oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king. The Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules brown-colored diamonds, and blue (unmentionably worst is black) tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord of the dead, Yamaraj. " > > > > Please don't advise people to wear tamasic black diamonds. > > > > Reconsider your NEW system. Then write a research paper with results and case studies and submit to the PGA for publication. But I warn, you risk making a total fool of your self > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , " sujay_govindaraj " <sujay_govindaraj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Friends; > > > > > > This is my first post: > > > > > > After so many years of study on above subject, I came to conclusion that the most of the semi precious stones or uparathnas do not possess similar qualities as the primary gems. > > > > > > Usually gemstones indicate mainly the nine planets; But it is true that some of the other colored sapphires, diamonds etc denote the Upagrahas also. Hence the effect of the stones varies. > > > > > > Illustration: According to my theory Black Diamond & Black Sapphires indicates Gulika ( sometimes referred as mandi also by some scholars ).Some people has mistaken that it is ruled by saturn, may be but not completely; i.e, Gulika or Mandi is refered as a satellite or upagraha to the saturn, so the gulika rules under the permission of saturn. > > > > > > How this can be predicted ? This can be predicted on the basis of the position of the upagrahas in the birth chart. This can be done either by parashara's method, also mentioned by kalyana varma in saravali, to calculate the position of upagrahas in one's chart. > > > > > > I had been considered this method and adapted myself, its working great and also i got a good feedback from my clients. > > > > > > Upagrahas: Dhooma, Vyathipatha, Parivesha, Upakethu, Indrachapa, Gulika and many more. > > > > > > Importance of the concept: > > > > > > The upagrahas are always malefic for all than the main planets and it is important to consider the upagrahas in the vedic astrology. Use of appropriate gemstones can rid out the malefic effects of upagrahas and the person's life will be great. Most of the times astrological predictions goes wrong, its not because the astrological limits;but our analysis is not complete. By considering the upagrahas for the predictions and suggesting the remedies for the same through gemstones works marvellous. > > > > > > Sujay Govindaraj > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 Dear Richardji, I say sorry, if i am wrong. Criticism exists for every new one. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was discussing purely in the view of astrology. As for as i know, garuda purana is the book that describes the life after death. Garuda purana is a narration between Lord vishnu and his vehicle Garuda, it does not forms astrological basis. May be you are misunderstanding about my concept. I will take your opinion positively. Regards sacred-objects , " rsbj66 " <rsbj66 wrote: > > I was told by one person that Sri Garuda Purana is wrong in condemning " flaws " in gems, because he had the " Dosha-shastra " which gives the benefits of having different serious flaws in a gem. Let's call it the BOOK OF GEM DEFECT GLORIES. > > Pretty funny!!! > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , " sujay_govindaraj " <sujay_govindaraj@> wrote: > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > I have studied garuda purana, we should also consider other literature also like ratna shastras by different sages, the only thing we are not able to collect adequate evidence. I had posted this topic to know whether any other person is prefering this way of prediction or not and if so to gain some more knowledge from his practice. > > > > The topic is not about the black diamonds, but it is about the study predictions of gemstones to upagrahas. I have just given the illustration or example to describe in detail. > > > > Might be black diamond is tamasic but it is beneficial for some. > > > > Kindly share your knowledge; if someone in this group who considers upagrahas for the predictions. > > > > Regards > > > > sacred-objects , " rsbj66 " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Your NEW concept is noted. Black diamond is to be worn? I would never wear a black diamond. Nor ever recommend it. > > > > > > Besides Diamond (of any color) is NOT an uparatna, it is Maharatna.. > > > > > > We're not interested in NEW concepts unless they are based on extensive testing and Shastra direction. Kindly give us evidence. > > > > > > Here is evidence from Sri Garuda Puranam in contrary to your imagination: > > > > > > " Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna, lord of the oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king. The Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules brown-colored diamonds, and blue (unmentionably worst is black) tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord of the dead, Yamaraj. " > > > > > > Please don't advise people to wear tamasic black diamonds. > > > > > > Reconsider your NEW system. Then write a research paper with results and case studies and submit to the PGA for publication. But I warn, you risk making a total fool of your self > > > > > > Y/s, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , " sujay_govindaraj " <sujay_govindaraj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends; > > > > > > > > This is my first post: > > > > > > > > After so many years of study on above subject, I came to conclusion that the most of the semi precious stones or uparathnas do not possess similar qualities as the primary gems. > > > > > > > > Usually gemstones indicate mainly the nine planets; But it is true that some of the other colored sapphires, diamonds etc denote the Upagrahas also. Hence the effect of the stones varies. > > > > > > > > Illustration: According to my theory Black Diamond & Black Sapphires indicates Gulika ( sometimes referred as mandi also by some scholars ).Some people has mistaken that it is ruled by saturn, may be but not completely; i.e, Gulika or Mandi is refered as a satellite or upagraha to the saturn, so the gulika rules under the permission of saturn. > > > > > > > > How this can be predicted ? This can be predicted on the basis of the position of the upagrahas in the birth chart. This can be done either by parashara's method, also mentioned by kalyana varma in saravali, to calculate the position of upagrahas in one's chart. > > > > > > > > I had been considered this method and adapted myself, its working great and also i got a good feedback from my clients. > > > > > > > > Upagrahas: Dhooma, Vyathipatha, Parivesha, Upakethu, Indrachapa, Gulika and many more. > > > > > > > > Importance of the concept: > > > > > > > > The upagrahas are always malefic for all than the main planets and it is important to consider the upagrahas in the vedic astrology. Use of appropriate gemstones can rid out the malefic effects of upagrahas and the person's life will be great. Most of the times astrological predictions goes wrong, its not because the astrological limits;but our analysis is not complete. By considering the upagrahas for the predictions and suggesting the remedies for the same through gemstones works marvellous. > > > > > > > > Sujay Govindaraj > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2009 Report Share Posted November 24, 2009 The Puranas - like Garuda Purana - only give importance to gem ID and gem quality. And nothing is worse quality than a hidious tamasic black diamond. So don't make things up, better follow the PGA p-g-a.orgRick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrown.comOn Nov 24, 2009, at 7:26 PM, "sujay_govindaraj" <sujay_govindaraj wrote: Dear Richardji, I say sorry, if i am wrong. Criticism exists for every new one. Thanks for sharing your opinion. I was discussing purely in the view of astrology. As for as i know, garuda purana is the book that describes the life after death. Garuda purana is a narration between Lord vishnu and his vehicle Garuda, it does not forms astrological basis. May be you are misunderstanding about my concept. I will take your opinion positively. Regards sacred-objects , "rsbj66" <rsbj66 wrote: > > I was told by one person that Sri Garuda Purana is wrong in condemning "flaws" in gems, because he had the "Dosha-shastra" which gives the benefits of having different serious flaws in a gem. Let's call it the BOOK OF GEM DEFECT GLORIES. > > Pretty funny!!! > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , "sujay_govindaraj" <sujay_govindaraj@> wrote: > > > > Hello Sir, > > > > I have studied garuda purana, we should also consider other literature also like ratna shastras by different sages, the only thing we are not able to collect adequate evidence. I had posted this topic to know whether any other person is prefering this way of prediction or not and if so to gain some more knowledge from his practice. > > > > The topic is not about the black diamonds, but it is about the study predictions of gemstones to upagrahas. I have just given the illustration or example to describe in detail. > > > > Might be black diamond is tamasic but it is beneficial for some. > > > > Kindly share your knowledge; if someone in this group who considers upagrahas for the predictions. > > > > Regards > > > > sacred-objects , "rsbj66" <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > Your NEW concept is noted. Black diamond is to be worn? I would never wear a black diamond. Nor ever recommend it. > > > > > > Besides Diamond (of any color) is NOT an uparatna, it is Maharatna.. > > > > > > We're not interested in NEW concepts unless they are based on extensive testing and Shastra direction. Kindly give us evidence. > > > > > > Here is evidence from Sri Garuda Puranam in contrary to your imagination: > > > > > > "Particular demigod preside over exceptionally fine diamonds of various colors. White diamonds of this standard are ruled by Varuna, lord of the oceans. Yellow diamonds are ruled by Indra, the heavenly king. The Maruts, the wind gods, rule copper-hued diamonds, the greenish diamonds are ruled by Surya, the sun-god. The fire-god, Agni, rules brown-colored diamonds, and blue (unmentionably worst is black) tinged diamonds are ruled by the lord of the dead, Yamaraj." > > > > > > Please don't advise people to wear tamasic black diamonds. > > > > > > Reconsider your NEW system. Then write a research paper with results and case studies and submit to the PGA for publication. But I warn, you risk making a total fool of your self > > > > > > Y/s, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects , "sujay_govindaraj" <sujay_govindaraj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Friends; > > > > > > > > This is my first post: > > > > > > > > After so many years of study on above subject, I came to conclusion that the most of the semi precious stones or uparathnas do not possess similar qualities as the primary gems. > > > > > > > > Usually gemstones indicate mainly the nine planets; But it is true that some of the other colored sapphires, diamonds etc denote the Upagrahas also. Hence the effect of the stones varies. > > > > > > > > Illustration: According to my theory Black Diamond & Black Sapphires indicates Gulika ( sometimes referred as mandi also by some scholars ).Some people has mistaken that it is ruled by saturn, may be but not completely; i.e, Gulika or Mandi is refered as a satellite or upagraha to the saturn, so the gulika rules under the permission of saturn. > > > > > > > > How this can be predicted ? This can be predicted on the basis of the position of the upagrahas in the birth chart. This can be done either by parashara's method, also mentioned by kalyana varma in saravali, to calculate the position of upagrahas in one's chart. > > > > > > > > I had been considered this method and adapted myself, its working great and also i got a good feedback from my clients. > > > > > > > > Upagrahas: Dhooma, Vyathipatha, Parivesha, Upakethu, Indrachapa, Gulika and many more. > > > > > > > > Importance of the concept: > > > > > > > > The upagrahas are always malefic for all than the main planets and it is important to consider the upagrahas in the vedic astrology. Use of appropriate gemstones can rid out the malefic effects of upagrahas and the person's life will be great. Most of the times astrological predictions goes wrong, its not because the astrological limits;but our analysis is not complete. By considering the upagrahas for the predictions and suggesting the remedies for the same through gemstones works marvellous. > > > > > > > > Sujay Govindaraj > > > > > > > > > > Get your preferred Email name! Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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