Guest guest Posted October 9, 2009 Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Dandavat! Jai Srila Prabhupada!!! Actually, the two to three weeks I spent living with Srila Prabhupada, we always talked in Bengali. In Mayapur one morning Prabhupada was sitting ready to speak to 100+ devotees - HDG started by mentioning the 10 Namapradhas, and then he looked at me sitting near him and said to me in Bengali to list them, IN Bengali. So after what Jaya Pataka called "an hour" I was finished explaining number 9, and then I completely went blank, I couldn't remember number 10. The harder I tried the harder it got. I told Prabhupada that I forgot the last one. So without missing a beat Prabhupada finished the katha, and never mentioned it. We spoke many hours every day, if I wasn't WITH Prabhupada, then I was being summoned by him. He wanted my help with Chaitanya Charitamrita, as Pradyumna didn't know Bengali script, and I also didn't know Bengali script. I had learned Hindi and Devanagri, but but in Vraja all the ashramites spoke in Bengali, so I was fluent GM style village Bengali but didn't know the script. When someone read the CC out loud then I could clearly understand it. Anyway, for CC Pradyamna and I were like tits on a rock. And I don't know who did the word-by-word translations because only Pradyumna had that task, but he didn't know any Bengali words. I really can't remember, except we had hit a competence road block where Prabhupada was too far ahead the tail couldn't keep up. So I had my copy of Sanskrit (Bengali-translation) Sri Upadesamrita (burning a hole in my pocket), and suggested to Prabhupada that THIS was a Sanskrit book of only 11 slokas, so we could do it right way, and I already knew all 11 slokas because each and every one (11 slokas) is important to memorize, as an A-Z of Spiritual Answers. It took two weeks for just the first 10 slokas. And we had lots of radical talks (radical by Iskcon-standard or is that Iskcon-stranded!?). Of all the things Prabhupada said to me the most important was a simple "yes" to my question, "Gurudev, isn't Asta-Kaliya-Lila by Krishna Das Kaviraj the REAL "Nitya Lila" detail? We had already discussed just about everything I knew from Swami Bon, including Govinda Lilamrita by same author as CC, with asta-kaliya-lila as the very basis. When he answered, "yes", I said, can we add that to this translation of sloka 10? Prabhupada said, "Yes, you put it." So I did put it, and Prabhupada never took it out. So if anything my godbrothers and sisters should be thankful that I was able to discuss asta-kaliya-nitya-lila with Prabhupada and get his own confirmation to what I already knew. CC and Govinda-Lilamrita were the "Radha & Krishna" of Kaviraja's many books. And the very foundation of reality is Nitya Lila, in Goloka/Mayapur, never to take rebirth, never to forget. That's why I spent so much time translating 8 slokas by Kaviraj, that sum up the Govindalilamritam, known as "asta-kaliya-lila-smarana-mangala-stotram." Because I already knew and Prabhupada confirmed that KC was all about Nitya-lila (not Bhauma lila), and the clear distinction between Vraja-mandala and Mathura-mandala, the complete distinction of Avatara-Krishna as a part of Avatari-Krishna. And Bhama-lila compared to Nitya-lila, where there are no non-devotees, no demons, no fighting, just Krishna-Balaram with all the nitya-lila-parishads in Goloka (Vaikuntha's heart) who are on their OWN SCHEDULE called Asta-kaliya-lila. If we want to associate with Radha-Krishna and Prabhupada then we should at least know Their schedule.Richard Shaw Brown, PGMusician, Designer, Gemologist & Authorwww.richardshawbrown.com New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Thanks for sharing.....!!!!!!!!! I am always intersting in the BHAVAS.......!!!!!! How do you know the difference???? Mathura from Dwaraka fromVrindhavan........... I would like to know about the LEELA'S PLAYED THERE AND IS ETERNALLY PLAYING IN OTHER LOKA'S!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Radhe Radhe Syama.......... --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Hari Katha"Sacred Objects Group" <sacred-objects >, "Planetary Group" <planetary-gemology >Thursday, October 8, 2009, 7:37 PM Dandavat! Jai Srila Prabhupada!! ! Actually, the two to three weeks I spent living with Srila Prabhupada, we always talked in Bengali. In Mayapur one morning Prabhupada was sitting ready to speak to 100+ devotees - HDG started by mentioning the 10 Namapradhas, and then he looked at me sitting near him and said to me in Bengali to list them, IN Bengali. So after what Jaya Pataka called "an hour" I was finished explaining number 9, and then I completely went blank, I couldn't remember number 10. The harder I tried the harder it got. I told Prabhupada that I forgot the last one. So without missing a beat Prabhupada finished the katha, and never mentioned it. We spoke many hours every day, if I wasn't WITH Prabhupada, then I was being summoned by him. He wanted my help with Chaitanya Charitamrita, as Pradyumna didn't know Bengali script, and I also didn't know Bengali script. I had learned Hindi and Devanagri, but but in Vraja all the ashramites spoke in Bengali, so I was fluent GM style village Bengali but didn't know the script. When someone read the CC out loud then I could clearly understand it. Anyway, for CC Pradyamna and I were like tits on a rock. And I don't know who did the word-by-word translations because only Pradyumna had that task, but he didn't know any Bengali words. I really can't remember, except we had hit a competence road block where Prabhupada was too far ahead the tail couldn't keep up. So I had my copy of Sanskrit (Bengali-translatio n) Sri Upadesamrita (burning a hole in my pocket), and suggested to Prabhupada that THIS was a Sanskrit book of only 11 slokas, so we could do it right way, and I already knew all 11 slokas because each and every one (11 slokas) is important to memorize, as an A-Z of Spiritual Answers. It took two weeks for just the first 10 slokas. And we had lots of radical talks (radical by Iskcon-standard or is that Iskcon-stranded! ?). Of all the things Prabhupada said to me the most important was a simple "yes" to my question, "Gurudev, isn't Asta-Kaliya- Lila by Krishna Das Kaviraj the REAL "Nitya Lila" detail? We had already discussed just about everything I knew from Swami Bon, including Govinda Lilamrita by same author as CC, with asta-kaliya- lila as the very basis. When he answered, "yes", I said, can we add that to this translation of sloka 10? Prabhupada said, "Yes, you put it." So I did put it, and Prabhupada never took it out. So if anything my godbrothers and sisters should be thankful that I was able to discuss asta-kaliya- nitya-lila with Prabhupada and get his own confirmation to what I already knew. CC and Govinda-Lilamrita were the "Radha & Krishna" of Kaviraja's many books. And the very foundation of reality is Nitya Lila, in Goloka/Mayapur, never to take rebirth, never to forget. That's why I spent so much time translating 8 slokas by Kaviraj, that sum up the Govindalilamritam, known as "asta-kaliya- lila-smarana- mangala-stotram. " Because I already knew and Prabhupada confirmed that KC was all about Nitya-lila (not Bhauma lila), and the clear distinction between Vraja-mandala and Mathura-mandala, the complete distinction of Avatara-Krishna as a part of Avatari-Krishna. And Bhama-lila compared to Nitya-lila, where there are no non-devotees, no demons, no fighting, just Krishna-Balaram with all the nitya-lila-parishad s in Goloka (Vaikuntha's heart) who are on their OWN SCHEDULE called Asta-kaliya- lila. If we want to associate with Radha-Krishna and Prabhupada then we should at least know Their schedule.Richard Shaw Brown, PGMusician, Designer, Gemologist & Authorwww.richardshawbrow n.com New Email names for you! Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail.Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 Here is some info http://www.richardshawbrown.com/mysticarticles/avatara-avatari.html y/s R- sacred-objects , 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote: > > Thanks for sharing.....!!!!!!!!! > > I am always intersting in the BHAVAS.......!!!!!! > > How do you know the difference???? > > Mathura from Dwaraka fromVrindhavan........... > > I would like to know about the LEELA'S PLAYED THERE > AND IS ETERNALLY PLAYING IN OTHER LOKA'S!!!!!!!!!!!!1 > > Radhe Radhe > > Syama.......... > > > > --- On Thu, 10/8/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Hari Katha > " Sacred Objects Group " <sacred-objects >, " Planetary Group " <planetary-gemology > > Thursday, October 8, 2009, 7:37 PM > > > > Dandavat! Jai Srila Prabhupada!! ! Actually, the two to three weeks I spent living with Srila Prabhupada, we always talked in Bengali. In Mayapur one morning Prabhupada was sitting ready to speak to 100+ devotees - HDG started by mentioning the 10 Namapradhas, and then he looked at me sitting near him and said to me in Bengali to list them, IN Bengali. So after what Jaya Pataka called " an hour " I was finished explaining number 9, and then I completely went blank, I couldn't remember number 10. The harder I tried the harder it got. I told Prabhupada that I forgot the last one. So without missing a beat Prabhupada finished the katha, and never mentioned it. We spoke many hours every day, if I wasn't WITH Prabhupada, then I was being summoned by him. He wanted my help with Chaitanya Charitamrita, as Pradyumna didn't know Bengali script, and I also didn't know Bengali script. I had learned Hindi and Devanagri, but but in Vraja all the ashramites spoke in > Bengali, so I was fluent GM style village Bengali but didn't know the script. When someone read the CC out loud then I could clearly understand it. Anyway, for CC Pradyamna and I were like tits on a rock. And I don't know who did the word-by-word translations because only Pradyumna had that task, but he didn't know any Bengali words. I really can't remember, except we had hit a competence road block where Prabhupada was too far ahead the tail couldn't keep up. > > So I had my copy of Sanskrit (Bengali-translatio n) Sri Upadesamrita (burning a hole in my pocket), and suggested to Prabhupada that THIS was a Sanskrit book of only 11 slokas, so we could do it right way, and I already knew all 11 slokas because each and every one (11 slokas) is important to memorize, as an A-Z of Spiritual Answers. It took two weeks for just the first 10 slokas. And we had lots of radical talks (radical by Iskcon-standard or is that Iskcon-stranded! ?). Of all the things Prabhupada said to me the most important was a simple " yes " to my question, " Gurudev, isn't Asta-Kaliya- Lila by Krishna Das Kaviraj the REAL " Nitya Lila " detail? We had already discussed just about everything I knew from Swami Bon, including Govinda Lilamrita by same author as CC, with asta-kaliya- lila as the very basis. When he answered, " yes " , I said, can we add that to this translation of sloka 10? Prabhupada said, " Yes, you put it. " So I did put it, and > Prabhupada never took it out. So if anything my godbrothers and sisters should be thankful that I was able to discuss asta-kaliya- nitya-lila with Prabhupada and get his own confirmation to what I already knew. CC and Govinda-Lilamrita were the " Radha & Krishna " of Kaviraja's many books. And the very foundation of reality is Nitya Lila, in Goloka/Mayapur, never to take rebirth, never to forget. That's why I spent so much time translating 8 slokas by Kaviraj, that sum up the Govindalilamritam, known as " asta-kaliya- lila-smarana- mangala-stotram. " Because I already knew and Prabhupada confirmed that KC was all about Nitya-lila (not Bhauma lila), and the clear distinction between Vraja-mandala and Mathura-mandala, the complete distinction of Avatara-Krishna as a part of Avatari-Krishna. And Bhama-lila compared to Nitya-lila, where there are no non-devotees, no demons, no fighting, just Krishna-Balaram with all the nitya-lila-parishad s in Goloka > (Vaikuntha's heart) who are on their OWN SCHEDULE called Asta-kaliya- lila. If we want to associate with Radha-Krishna and Prabhupada then we should at least know Their schedule. > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author > www.richardshawbrow n.com > > > New Email names for you! > Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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