Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 SEE http://astroresearchindia.com/eBookRelationshipPg353-357.aspx sacred-objects , gaurav aggarwal <shreshthyantra wrote: > > Respected Sir, > I Want to know about Rin Mochak Mangal Strot. > Can i goet to know more about this strot. > regards > > --- On Sat, 8/8/09, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 wrote: > > > rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 > Re: Re: Rig Veda, Mandala no.10, Sukta no. 90; verses no.11 to 16, > " Kishore " <mydearindian, sacred-objects > Cc: vedic_research_ institute , Unitedhindufront (AT) googl (DOT) com, " Patriots Forum " <dcnath, media_monitor5 , kulam , indicjournalists , " India First Foundation " <editor, hinduvrata , hinduthought , hindusthana , hindunationalists , hindu_mahasabha-owner , dalitfreedom+ owner (AT) googl (DOT) com, bharatiyaexpertsforum , " hinducivilization " <hinducivilization > > Saturday, 8 August, 2009, 4:13 PM > > >  > > > Respected Sree Kishore Jee, > > Sadar pranam to you. > > I must express my sincere gratitude to you to feel the pain of my heart, and took pain to reply in such a wonderful mail,addressed to me. Sir, Please accept my heartfelt Gratitude. > > What you said is trivial. I believe in nature and nature is always one step ahead of us. > > With our science,engineering , humanities, philosophies, it is impossible to find out the Mistry. What ever we achieve it is " as small as you please " with respect to Nature. > > I am proud to be an Indian. As the great poet Satyendranath Sen said " I may born in this country and I may be allowed to die here only " . I am proud of Vedic Literature as the oldest literature as well as of our Aagamaas literature, Buddhist literatures, Jain literatures, Sakta literatures, Tantra, mantra and Yantra literaturs,give to us by our great leaders. > > Therefore,it may not be proper to comments on this issue, as my knowledge is small as you please. > > We always look forward to our dharmadhikaries to guide us, to lead us for a better life in accordance with " to live and let live " , but not to " divide and rule " in the name of caste/varna. > > My contention is that all the literatures of the world are written / composed by Humans, at various points of time for the benifits of the Society, for " Live and let Live " , but not to divide the society in various groups/sub groups in the name of Dharma. > > However this is reflected in every Vedic literature, starting from Rig Vedas until its completion with Gita and thus define Gita as Vedanta.. All are being done in the name of Dharma. > > Kindly look at our social system ,what it was and what it is now. the vedic concept of worship is almost perished, we accept the change. So let us discard the evils of yestarday and welcome good useful ideas,. > > Hindu religion is not Vedic religion, so why always we look back at Vedas? let us look at other Indian religions also. Therefore, let us define Hinduism by taking all the good from all Indian religion and unite under one umbrella. > > I hope the day is not far way. > > Please pardon me ,if I disturbed you. > > Once again I thank you Sir for your kind reply. > > With kind regards, > > > > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri > > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Kishore <mydearindian@ > wrote: > > > Kishore <mydearindian@ ..com> > Re: Re: Rig Veda, Mandala no.10, Sukta no. 90; verses no.11 to 16, > sacred-objects > Cc: airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in > Friday, 7 August, 2009, 11:41 PM > Dear Dr.Rajeev Agnihotri Ji, >  > Hope you are doing great. >  > Kindly read full email with concentration. >  > It’s a big reply so I thank you in advance for your time. My soul wanted to convey a message to you with great respect. It's a Good question...I understand that your question is on a sacred book verses( vedas ), I appreciate your interest to know the meaning...however i am not providing the meaning, but i am giving a messge from my soul. >  > Kindly concentrate on what I say here. >  > Those lines says that - ““Many things came out from him ( Birat Purush) " " . Let’s accept it that many things came out from him. But now another question is “from where he ( Birat Purush) " " .  Came out " >  >  This is next question... >  > And lets say " he came out from an energy/person etc... called " " A " " . >  > Now another question is " from where " A " came... Hope you are getting me...some one may say " A " came from " Lord Krishna " or sakthi upasaks may say “Ma Devi " ... >  > †" this answer you can’t’ get it from books. >  > let me tell you in another way...we have many scriptures before us to read, and this knowledge is endless,,, Knowledge related God is endless, specially in Hinduism we have many books ( Vedas, puranas, upanishaths, Gitas) and God is in many forms.. >  > Now our Janma (Birth) / life span is too little to concentrate or to read all these things. Some people get this knowledge very quickly, and for some very late... >  > Now there are few people who did not concentrate or I say did not take help of these scriptures (Like Ramana Maharshi) but they took self-help and got lot of divine knowledge... >  >  Now let’s go to the example that I have given above...from where " A " came...from where God came...where is the origin? Now let’s say God came from a father, then who is the father of that father, and again who is the father of that father, everybody tells an answer to this question according to their siddahntas, but some yogis became mad about this question and wanted to know the truth. They did sadhana and got the answer. And what they realized they themselves can understand, knew it. Yes, though they share their knowledge it is only their perception and can’t be our perception, hence, everyone has their own way in this spiritual journey. We may or may not agree with their perception. >  > We read in puranas that even great (saints) Rushis like " Viswamitra could not control anger etc.. " ...winning the senses and knowing the truth is most difficult task ....i see here in this blog many are very educated and blessed by God, but still they show anger, they argue with some negative words, do you know why we are like this despite of knowing divinity,, after learning / gaining many spiritual books,, people get lots of knowledge... and also blessings from God.. >  > However, as I have told you it is not so easy to win senses; people fail to concentrate on this subject (winning senses) in the journey of spirituality. .. >  > This world filled with perceptions, I mean views, and they tell answers in their own way, in their own fashion, according to their own experiences. .... >  > And you know,, this email is my perception.. .now see somebody may respond to this email or may not if they want to post/express their perception.. .. >  > No blames/no arguments... . >  > Since you are raising a query on divine knowledge,,, I advice you to ask your own energy, your own soul...that energy listens, that energy knows everything.. ..., that energy is everywhere believe me, it shows the right path.... >  > My prayer for you to God... >  > Oh the power of Nature...Please teach us what you are in your own way,,, > You exists everywhere, you know everything, you are always happy, always helping > We ignorant persons seeking you help from you...kindly listen and give the divine knowledge >  > Asking a question to your soul may just a question in initial stage, but later it will become meditation, you will get all answers in a better way by consulting God... >  > I read in a book, that a swami wanted a Guru to get divine knowledge, now that swami did not search for a Guru outside, instead he asked Soul/God in deep meditation for several years to give him true knowledge, and finally one day a Guru came by himself by Gods order and taught everything to him and disappeared. I am not telling the essence here but not telling the complete story. Hope you got my soul message in a right way. >  > I wish you all the good luck from my bottom of my heart for your safe and right spiritual journey. >  >  >  > > > Have a nice & productive day, > > With Best wishes, > M.kishore. >  > If you don't like to read this E-mail then please mention in subject line " REMOVE " . > > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Re: Re: Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESS > sacred-objects > Cc: " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 > > Friday, 7 August, 2009, 7:30 PM > > >  respected Sir, > > How these following verses are explained, we will be very happy to learn on thises: > > > Rig Veda, Mandala no.10, Sukta no. 90; verses no.11 to 16, >  > V.11 > Various elements came out from Birat Purush., who became his > Hands, Legs, Thighs, and Mouth? >  > V.12 > His mouth become  Bramhin > His arms/hands become Kshtriya, > His Thighs are Vaishya > His legs/foots are Sudra >  > V.13 > From his mind came out Moon > From his eyes came out Sun > From his mouth came out Indra and Agni > From his pran(heart) came out Vayu(Air) >  > V.14 > From his head came out Heaven > From his naval came out Antarikhsha( Sky) > From his legs Earth came out. >  > This is the Sukta where Bhamhin, Kshtriya, Vaishya and Sudra >  were mentioned for the first time in Vedic literature. >  > Next is Manu smriti >  > 1st Chapter >  > V. 9 > God has created Bramhin from his mouth, Kshtriya from his arms, > Vaishya from his thighs,and sudra from his foot. >  > V10 > Education, fire sacrifice (yagna),to accept donation and also to give donation > Are the duties of Bramhin. >  > V.11 > Defending of people, to make donation, to perform Yagna thru bramhan, > Reading of Vedas, and to be away from Vaishya (property/money) are the > Duties of Kshtriya. >  > V.12 > Vaishyas to take care of cattles, to offer donation, to perform yagna, to > Study Vedas, to do cultivation and business etc. > V.13 > Only one duty is assigned to Shudras that is to serve Bramhin, Kshtriya and Vaishya >   with all sincerity and devotion. >  > V.14 > In this Manusmriti, the details of duties, rules and regulations, work/job etc have been described. >  > V.15 > Real Dharma is to adhere to the rules and regulations as defined in Sruti and Smriti. Hence everybody must do their work according to their caste for his own benefits. >  >  > Bhagavat Gita: >  > Chapter 16, V.23 and 24 >  > V.23 > Ignoring the precept of scriptures (Vedas, Smrities), he who acts under the impulsion of passion, >  He does not attain perfection, or happiness, or the supreme Goal. >  > V.24 > Therefore, the scripture (Veda, Smrities) is your authority as regards the determination of what is to be done and what is not to be done. > After understanding (your) duty as presented by scriptural injunction, you ought to perform (your duty as Kshtriya) here. >  > Chapter 18, V.7 >  > V.7 > The abandoning of daily obligatory acts is not justifiable. Giving up that through > Delusion is declared to be based on “Tamasâ€. >  > V.23 > The daily obligatory action which is performed without attachment and without likes or dislikes by one who does not hanker for rewards, that is said to be born of “Sattvaâ€. >  > V.45 > Being devoted to his own duties, man attains complete success. >  > V.47 > One’s own duty (though defective), is superior to another’s duty well performed. By performing a duty as dictated by one’s own nature, one does not incur sin. >  >  > V.48 > O son of Kunti, one should not give up the duty to which one is born, eventhough it is faulty >  > > > Various people speaks in different way,we would like to know as per your explanation . > > > > > With kind regards. > > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri > > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 (AT) (DOT) . com> > Re: Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESS > sacred-objects > Friday, 7 August, 2009, 11:59 AM > > >  > > Sir, I do not " Know better than Prabhupada " BUT I do " Know Prabhupada " personally. I was his associate and we did entire " Nectar if Instruction " working together. I was with him day and night. Speaking mostly in Bengali. " So I know Prabhupada, and in spite of what he wrote I can separate truth from fiction because I know Prabhupada personally. > > Prabhupada wrote bad-mouthing about 99% of everybody.. He said Shankar was wrong, Vallabh was wrong, yogis are wrong, jnanis are wrong, Jains and Sikhs are wronmg, Vivakananda was wrong, Buddhists are called the worse names and are wrong, karmis are wrong, Gita Press is non-devotee (in spite of evidence), he also said his own senior Godbrothers were " Mayavadis " " Non-devotees " " Black like gorrilla " " Envious black snakes " , and loads of other UNTRUE statements that are NOT a fact. I knew Prabhupada's Godbrothers and they had hands, legs, and were not snakes, nor Mayavadis. They were Vaishnava Sadhus. So if Prabhupada can bad-mouth his OWN SENIOR GODBROTHERS, they how could Gita Press possibly escape the onslaught? > > Prabhupada wanted people to read HIS Gita, not the competition (Gita Press) so it was a " marketing statement " plain and simple. > > Now I knew Prabhupada personally. And I knew Hanuman Prasad personally. So I'm in a good position to say. Have you ever met these illustrious individuals? NO? - Then I pity you!!! > > sacred-objects, " rnldef " <rnldef@> wrote: > > > > Have you ever considered writing a book on this subject explaining your views, for those of us who are interested but don't have the time or qualifications to do our own research? Taking into consideration of course the predictable ISKCON response of " you think you know more than Prabhupad? " or " you are just being blasphemous " .. > > > > If one googles C.L. Goswami or Goyandka and Bhaktivedanta, there are references to Srila Prabhupad having referred to Gita Press as full of Mayavad philosophy and advising his disciples not to read those books. > > > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > GITA PRESS: " Srimad Bhagavatam " : 10th Canto: Page 1257 by C. L. Goswami, M. A., Sastri - footnote... > > > > > > * " Authoritative Vaisnava commentators like Sanatana Goswami, who are believed to have actually witnessed these Lilas of Sri Krsna and His beloved Gopis by the special grace of the Lord, have traced the following utterances to Sri Radha, on the basis of the Agni-Purana as well as on the strength of their own transcendent vision. Again, these utterances are believed to have escaped from lips of Sri Radha in a state of divine ecstasy (Divyonmada) . Which has no parallel anywhere and is the special monopoly of Sri Radha a unique personification of Mahabhava, the highest and purest form of divine Love. These utteraances have also been classified under various heads such as Ghitrajalpa, which have been clearly defined in standard works on poetics like the Ujjvala-nilamani of Rupa Goswami. " > > > > > > ---> NOW TELL ME THAT IS WRITTEN BY an Advaitavadin SHANKARITE!? ?? Mr Goswami MUST not only be a Vaishnava, but a Gaudiya Vaishnava in particular - otherwise he couldn't know this information. > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG > > > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author > > > www.richardshawbrow n.com > > > > > > > > > Get your new Email address! > > > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does! > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > > > > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here. > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here. > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz./ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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