Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 Respected Sir,Really Hinduism is very funny. Among Vaishnavas also difference on the birth day of Krishna?we dont know,where Hinduism will lead us,due to all acharyas/Upadhyas/Swamijees/Bhagavans.I think it is better to be either to become a non believer or Christian or Muslims.Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri--- On Fri, 7/8/09, 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote:108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami datessacred-objects Date: Friday, 7 August, 2009, 12:25 AM The appearance day......... ......or what ISKCON "celebrate it day"........ .......!! !!! RAM NAM SAT......... ...!!!!!! !!!!!!!! Syama........ ... --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: Ole Alstrup <alstrup > Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates"Sacred Natural Objects of Asia" <sacred-objects>Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:57 AM Hare Krishna Among the various Vaishnava sampradyas, Shri Krishna Janmasthami is celebrated on different days. This year the Gaudiya ISKCON Math celebrates on 14th August. A friend of mine who is in the Shri (Ramanuja) Sampradaya told me that Shri Vaishnavas celebrate on the 12th September, when I asked why he said this is according to Avani month and Rohini star. Can someone explain this difference of dates? Thanks, Ys, Ole Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2009 Report Share Posted August 7, 2009 India was not conquered by the British and the Muslim................. They were captured by MAHAMAYA..............like RAHU............ they couldnot "swallow what they have bitened".......................... They were in SAMSARA...................!!!!!!!!!! India will never be Conquered................YOGAMAYA............ is the "WARDEN"...............THERE.............. Syama............--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami datessacred-objects Date: Friday, August 7, 2009, 5:07 PM Dear Sriman,First, about Janmastami date, here is info from Srimad Bhagavat of Krishna's birth. SB 10.3.1-5: Thereafter, at the auspicious time for the appearance of the Lord, the entire universe was surcharged with all the qualities of goodness, beauty and peace. The constellation Rohini appeared, as did stars like Asvini;. The sun, the moon and the other stars and planets were very peaceful.We also know it was astami of dark Moon at 12 midnight, well over 5,000 years ago. So do you think there might be some disagreement about the exact day each year?Actually I think the Hindus are united under the Shastras, The Gita. There will be different interpretations given, just as with every other religion, including Sikhs and Muslims. There is never just one interpretation of any religion. But Hindu's are proud. Although whole huge India was only conquered by British and Muslims because of disunity of Hindus, now India is ONE and I think Hindus are NOW more united than ever (perhaps).Best wishes,Richardsacred-objects, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > This is not the answear.> > Let us acknowledge the fact that "Hindus are not united".> > They dont respect each other,each wants to prove his own point.> > However,the funny thing is that they cannot made a unique religion, nor they cannot escape from the the loops of Hinduism.> > I dont think,they can be united in future.> > The condition os Sri Sri Ravisankar befor Dr, Zakir naik is the recent example.> > Any way thank you for your diplomatic reply, and spinning of stories,instead of simple clarification to an ordinary Hindu like us.> > With kind regards, Sir.> > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri> > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Rick Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > Rick Brown <rsbj66> Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> "sacred-objects" <sacred-objects>> Friday, 7 August, 2009, 3:23 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hinduism is the name of three religions, karma Yoga, jnana yoga, and Bhakti Yoga. Or better put "advaitvaad" v/s "dvaitavad". But birthdays vary, not by religion, but by different astrological systems or ayanamsa. Lahiri is the most widely used, but there are a number of others not the same. My question is, "Who cares?" - for me everyday is Janmastami because I worship Krishna every day. So how can I go wrong? > > Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardsh awbrow n.com> On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:21 PM, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > Really Hinduism is very funny. Among Vaishnavas also difference on the birth day of Krishna?> > we dont know,where Hinduism will lead us,due to all acharyas/Upadhyas/ Swamijees/ Bhagavans.> > I think it is better to be either to become a non believer or Christian or Muslims.> > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri> > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote:> > 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 > Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> sacred-objects> Date:> Friday, 7 August, 2009, 12:25 AM> > > > > > > > > > The appearance day......... . ......or what ISKCON "celebrate it day"........ .......!! !!!> > RAM NAM SAT......... ...!!!!!! !!!!!!!!> > Syama....... . ...> > > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote:> > > Ole Alstrup <alstrup >> Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> "Sacred Natural Objects of Asia" <sacred-objects>> Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:57 AM> > > > > > > Hare Krishna> > > Among the various Vaishnava sampradyas, Shri Krishna Janmasthami is celebrated on different days. This year the Gaudiya ISKCON Math celebrates on 14th August. A friend of mine who is in the Shri (Ramanuja) Sampradaya told me that Shri Vaishnavas celebrate on the 12th September, when I asked why he said this is according to Avani month and Rohini star. Can someone explain this difference of dates?> > > Thanks,> > > Ys, Ole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here.> > > > > > > > > > > > New Email names for you! > > Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail.> > Hurry before someone else does!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 I think India has nothing with - neither the material devices nor the spiritual devices to stay unconquered ..If at all there is anything - its a particular brand of intellectual power .. 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008sacred-objects Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 4:40:12 PMRe: Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates India was not conquered by the British and the Muslim...... ......... .. They were captured by MAHAMAYA.... ......... .like RAHU........ .... they couldnot "swallow what they have bitened".... ......... ......... .... They were in SAMSARA..... ......... .....!!!! !!!!!! India will never be Conquered... ......... ....YOGAMAYA. ......... .. is the "WARDEN".... ......... ..THERE.. ......... ... Syama....... .....--- On Fri, 8/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami datessacred-objectsFriday, August 7, 2009, 5:07 PM Dear Sriman,First, about Janmastami date, here is info from Srimad Bhagavat of Krishna's birth. SB 10.3.1-5: Thereafter, at the auspicious time for the appearance of the Lord, the entire universe was surcharged with all the qualities of goodness, beauty and peace. The constellation Rohini appeared, as did stars like Asvini;. The sun, the moon and the other stars and planets were very peaceful.We also know it was astami of dark Moon at 12 midnight, well over 5,000 years ago. So do you think there might be some disagreement about the exact day each year?Actually I think the Hindus are united under the Shastras, The Gita. There will be different interpretations given, just as with every other religion, including Sikhs and Muslims. There is never just one interpretation of any religion. But Hindu's are proud. Although whole huge India was only conquered by British and Muslims because of disunity of Hindus, now India is ONE and I think Hindus are NOW more united than ever (perhaps).Best wishes,Richardsacred-objects, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15@. ..> wrote:>> Dear Sir,> > This is not the answear.> > Let us acknowledge the fact that "Hindus are not united".> > They dont respect each other,each wants to prove his own point.> > However,the funny thing is that they cannot made a unique religion, nor they cannot escape from the the loops of Hinduism.> > I dont think,they can be united in future.> > The condition os Sri Sri Ravisankar befor Dr, Zakir naik is the recent example.> > Any way thank you for your diplomatic reply, and spinning of stories,instead of simple clarification to an ordinary Hindu like us.> > With kind regards, Sir.> > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri> > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Rick Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > Rick Brown <rsbj66> Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> "sacred-objects" <sacred-objects>> Friday, 7 August, 2009, 3:23 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hinduism is the name of three religions, karma Yoga, jnana yoga, and Bhakti Yoga. Or better put "advaitvaad" v/s "dvaitavad". But birthdays vary, not by religion, but by different astrological systems or ayanamsa. Lahiri is the most widely used, but there are a number of others not the same. My question is, "Who cares?" - for me everyday is Janmastami because I worship Krishna every day. So how can I go wrong? > > Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardsh awbrow n.com> On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:21 PM, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Respected Sir,> > Really Hinduism is very funny. Among Vaishnavas also difference on the birth day of Krishna?> > we dont know,where Hinduism will lead us,due to all acharyas/Upadhyas/ Swamijees/ Bhagavans.> > I think it is better to be either to become a non believer or Christian or Muslims.> > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri> > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 wrote:> > 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008 > Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> sacred-objects> Date:> Friday, 7 August, 2009, 12:25 AM> > > > > > > > > > The appearance day......... . ......or what ISKCON "celebrate it day"........ .......!! !!!> > RAM NAM SAT......... ...!!!!!! !!!!!!!!> > Syama....... . ...> > > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote:> > > Ole Alstrup <alstrup >> Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates> "Sacred Natural Objects of Asia" <sacred-objects>> Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:57 AM> > > > > > > Hare Krishna> > > Among the various Vaishnava sampradyas, Shri Krishna Janmasthami is celebrated on different days. This year the Gaudiya ISKCON Math celebrates on 14th August. A friend of mine who is in the Shri (Ramanuja) Sampradaya told me that Shri Vaishnavas celebrate on the 12th September, when I asked why he said this is according to Avani month and Rohini star. Can someone explain this difference of dates?> > > Thanks,> > > Ys, Ole > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here.> > > > > > > > > > > > New Email names for you! > > Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail.> > Hurry before someone else does!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. http://in.buzz. /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 14, 2009 Report Share Posted August 14, 2009 Hi Ole, For me is doesn't matter. I just follow the Gaudiya system, because every day is Janmastami for me as I do the same puja every day. The only difference is I use panca-amrita to bath the Shalagram and then Ganga Jala on Janmastami. Otherwise same puja every day for He Who is Aja (never born). FYI: Krishna Janmashtami is observed on the eighth day, Ashtami tithi, of the dark half or Krishna Paksha of the month of Bhaadra in the Hindu calendar, when the Rohini Nakshatra is ascendant. That is in one hour from now for me. A tithi is a lunar day, or the time it takes for the longitudinal angle between the moon and the sun to increase by 12°. Tithis begin at varying times of day and vary in duration from approximately 19 to approximately 26 hours. Nakshatra: 'star', from naksha, 'approach', and tra, 'guard') or lunar mansion is one of the 27 divisions of the sky, identified by the prominent star(s) in them, used in Jyotisha. Jai Sri Krishna!!! Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " alstrup " <alstrup wrote: > > Hi Richard, > > I was told in one email sentence by Shyamasundara Dasa that " Gaudiyas do it according to tithi, Sris according to Nakshatra " , maybe you can explain what that means. > > I was told that 80% of hindus celebrate today as the date, also in Dvaraka and Mathura. At Sri places like Sri Rangam, Tirupati etc it is celebrated on the 12 September. > > Ys, Ole > > > sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sriman, > > > > First, about Janmastami date, here is info from Srimad Bhagavat of Krishna's birth. SB 10.3.1-5: Thereafter, at the auspicious time for the appearance of the Lord, the entire universe was surcharged with all the qualities of goodness, beauty and peace. The constellation Rohini appeared, as did stars like Asvini;. The sun, the moon and the other stars and planets were very peaceful. > > > > We also know it was astami of dark Moon at 12 midnight, well over 5,000 years ago. So do you think there might be some disagreement about the exact day each year? > > > > Actually I think the Hindus are united under the Shastras, The Gita. There will be different interpretations given, just as with every other religion, including Sikhs and Muslims. There is never just one interpretation of any religion. But Hindu's are proud. Although whole huge India was only conquered by British and Muslims because of disunity of Hindus, now India is ONE and I think Hindus are NOW more united than ever (perhaps). > > > > Best wishes, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects , rajeev Rajeev <airavat15@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > This is not the answear. > > > > > > Let us acknowledge the fact that " Hindus are not united " . > > > > > > They dont respect each other,each wants to prove his own point. > > > > > > However,the funny thing is that they cannot made a unique religion, nor they cannot escape from the the loops of Hinduism. > > > > > > I dont think,they can be united in future. > > > > > > The condition os Sri Sri Ravisankar befor Dr, Zakir naik is the recent example. > > > > > > Any way thank you for your diplomatic reply, and spinning of stories,instead of simple clarification to an ordinary Hindu like us. > > > > > > With kind regards, Sir. > > > > > > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, Rick Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Rick Brown <rsbj66@> > > > Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates > > > " sacred-objects " <sacred-objects > > > > Friday, 7 August, 2009, 3:23 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hinduism is the name of three religions, karma Yoga, jnana yoga, and Bhakti Yoga. Or better put " advaitvaad " v/s " dvaitavad " . But birthdays vary, not by religion, but by different astrological systems or ayanamsa. Lahiri is the most widely used, but there are a number of others not the same. My question is, " Who cares? " - for me everyday is Janmastami because I worship Krishna every day. So how can I go wrong?� > > > > > > Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrow n.com > > > On Aug 7, 2009, at 9:21 PM, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > Respected Sir, > > > > > > Really Hinduism is very funny. Among Vaishnavas also difference on the birth day of Krishna? > > > > > > we dont know,where Hinduism will lead us,due to all acharyas/Upadhyas/ Swamijees/ Bhagavans. > > > > > > I think it is better to be either to become a non believer or Christian or Muslims. > > > > > > Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/8/09, 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008@> wrote: > > > > > > 108 SRIMAD BHAKTI VEDENTA SYAMASUNDARA SARASWATI DASA <syamasundara100008@> > > > Re: Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates > > > sacred-objects > > > Date: > > > Friday, 7 August, 2009, 12:25 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > The appearance day.......... ......or what ISKCON " celebrate it day " ........ .......!! !!! > > > � > > > RAM NAM SAT......... ...!!!!!! !!!!!!!! > > > � > > > Syama....... . ... > > > � > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ole Alstrup <alstrup > > > > Shri Krishna Janmasthami dates > > > " Sacred Natural Objects of Asia " <sacred-objects> > > > Thursday, August 6, 2009, 7:57 AM > > > > > > > > > � > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > > Among the various Vaishnava sampradyas, Shri Krishna Janmasthami is celebrated on different days. This year the Gaudiya ISKCON Math celebrates on 14th August. A friend of mine who is in the Shri (Ramanuja) Sampradaya told me that Shri Vaishnavas celebrate on the 12th September, when I asked why he said this is according to�Avani month and Rohini star.�Can someone explain this difference of dates? > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > Ys, Ole� > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email names for you! > > > > > > Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > > > > > Hurry before someone else does! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > See the Web & #39;s breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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