Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESS

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My Dear Sir,I appealed to you,to clrify,not for counter question.Yes, it is simple english. Do you support this or not?Yes or No is sufficient for me to understand.With kind regardsDr. Rajeev Agnihotri--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Rick Brown <rsbj66 wrote:Rick Brown <rsbj66Re: Re: Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESS"sacred-objects " <sacred-objects >Friday, 7 August, 2009, 3:27 PM

 

 

Sriman,The verses are clearly said. What is need of explanation? Don't you understand plain English? People might TRY to explain but in fact it is only their opinion.Rick Brown's iPhonewww.richardshawbrow n.comOn Aug 7, 2009, at 9:00 PM, rajeev Rajeev <airavat15 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

 

 

respected Sir,How these following verses are explained, we will be very happy to learn on thises:

Rig Veda, Mandala no.10, Sukta

no. 90; verses no.11 to 16, V.11

Various elements came out from Birat Purush., who became his

Hands, Legs, Thighs, and Mouth?

V.12

His mouth become Bramhin

His arms/hands become Kshtriya,

His Thighs are Vaishya

His legs/foots are Sudra

V.13

From his mind came out Moon

From his eyes came out Sun

From his mouth came out Indra and Agni

From his pran(heart) came out Vayu(Air)

V.14

From his head came out Heaven

From his naval came out Antarikhsha( Sky)

From his legs Earth came out.

This is the Sukta where Bhamhin, Kshtriya, Vaishya and Sudra

were mentioned for

the first time in Vedic literature.

Next is Manu smriti 1st Chapter V. 9

God has created Bramhin from his mouth, Kshtriya from his

arms,

Vaishya from his thighs,and sudra from his foot.

V10

Education, fire sacrifice (yagna),to accept donation and

also to give donation

Are the duties of Bramhin.

V.11

Defending of people, to make donation, to perform Yagna thru

bramhan,

Reading of Vedas, and to be away from Vaishya (property/money) are the

Duties of Kshtriya.

V.12

Vaishyas to take care of cattles, to offer donation, to

perform yagna, to

Study Vedas, to do cultivation and business etc.

V.13

Only one duty is assigned to Shudras that is to serve

Bramhin, Kshtriya and Vaishya

with all sincerity and devotion.

V.14

In this Manusmriti, the details of duties, rules and

regulations, work/job etc have been described.

V.15

Real Dharma is to adhere to the rules and regulations as

defined in Sruti and Smriti. Hence everybody must do their work according to

their caste for his own benefits..

Bhagavat Gita:

Chapter 16, V.23 and 24

V.23

Ignoring the precept of scriptures (Vedas, Smrities), he who

acts under the impulsion of passion,

He does not attain

perfection, or happiness, or the supreme Goal.

V.24

Therefore, the scripture (Veda, Smrities) is your authority

as regards the determination of what is to be done and what is not to be done.

After understanding (your) duty as presented by scriptural

injunction, you ought to perform (your duty as Kshtriya) here.

Chapter 18, V.7

V.7

The abandoning of daily obligatory acts is not justifiable.

Giving up that through

Delusion is declared to be based on “Tamasâ€.

V.23

The daily obligatory action which is performed without

attachment and without likes or dislikes by one who does not hanker for rewards,

that is said to be born of “Sattvaâ€.

V.45

Being devoted to his own duties, man attains complete

success.

V.47

One’s own duty (though defective), is superior to another’s

duty well performed. By performing a duty as dictated by one’s own nature, one

does not incur sin.

V.48 O son of Kunti, one should not

give up the duty to which one is born, eventhough it is faulty Various people speaks in different way,we would like to know as per your explanation . With kind regards.Dr. Rajeev Agnihotri--- On Fri, 7/8/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > wrote:Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESSsacred-objectsFriday, 7 August, 2009, 11:59 AM

 

 

Sir, I do not "Know better than Prabhupada" BUT I do "Know Prabhupada" personally. I was his associate and we did entire "Nectar if Instruction" working together. I was with him day and night. Speaking mostly in Bengali." So I know Prabhupada, and in spite of what he wrote I can separate truth from fiction because I know Prabhupada personally.

 

Prabhupada wrote bad-mouthing about 99% of everybody. He said Shankar was wrong, Vallabh was wrong, yogis are wrong, jnanis are wrong, Jains and Sikhs are wronmg, Vivakananda was wrong, Buddhists are called the worse names and are wrong, karmis are wrong, Gita Press is non-devotee (in spite of evidence), he also said his own senior Godbrothers were "MayavadisNon-devoteesBlack like gorrillaEnvious black snakes", and loads of other UNTRUE statements that are NOT a fact. I knew Prabhupada's Godbrothers and they had hands, legs, and were not snakes, nor Mayavadis. They were Vaishnava Sadhus. So if Prabhupada can bad-mouth his OWN SENIOR GODBROTHERS, they how could Gita Press possibly escape the onslaught?

 

Prabhupada wanted people to read HIS Gita, not the competition (Gita Press) so it was a "marketing statement" plain and simple..

 

Now I knew Prabhupada personally. And I knew Hanuman Prasad personally. So I'm in a good position to say. Have you ever met these illustrious individuals? NO? - Then I pity you!!!

 

sacred-objects, "rnldef" <rnldef wrote:

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> Have you ever considered writing a book on this subject explaining your views, for those of us who are interested but don't have the time or qualifications to do our own research? Taking into consideration of course the predictable ISKCON response of "you think you know more than Prabhupad?" or "you are just being blasphemous" ..

>

> If one googles C.L. Goswami or Goyandka and Bhaktivedanta, there are references to Srila Prabhupad having referred to Gita Press as full of Mayavad philosophy and advising his disciples not to read those books.

>

> sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> >

> > GITA PRESS: "Srimad Bhagavatam": 10th Canto: Page 1257 by C. L. Goswami, M. A., Sastri - footnote...

> >

> > * "Authoritative Vaisnava commentators like Sanatana Goswami, who are believed to have actually witnessed these Lilas of Sri Krsna and His beloved Gopis by the special grace of the Lord, have traced the following utterances to Sri Radha, on the basis of the Agni-Purana as well as on the strength of their own transcendent vision. Again, these utterances are believed to have escaped from lips of Sri Radha in a state of divine ecstasy (Divyonmada) . Which has no parallel anywhere and is the special monopoly of Sri Radha a unique personification of Mahabhava, the highest and purest form of divine Love. These utteraances have also been classified under various heads such as Ghitrajalpa, which have been clearly defined in standard works on poetics like the Ujjvala-nilamani of Rupa Goswami."

> >

> > ---> NOW TELL ME THAT IS WRITTEN BY an Advaitavadin SHANKARITE!? ?? Mr Goswami MUST not only be a Vaishnava, but a Gaudiya Vaishnava in particular - otherwise he couldn't know this information.

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Hi Richard,Why was Srila Prabhupada 'badmouthing'? Dont you think he really meant what he said, why else would he badmouth including his own Godbrothers? Thanks,Ys, OleRichard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Friday, 7 August, 2009 16:00:48 Re: Footnote - page 1257 in Srimad Bhagavatam by GITA PRESS

 

 

Fanatical Mr. rnldef Sir,

 

In fact, because of Prabhupada's published 'bad-mouthing' of Buddhism and Buddhists so there is no possibility of Iskcon in Thailand. He also bad mouthed ALL and EVERY other religion on Earth, including his own Godbrothers, whom he bad-mouthed to hell and back. All his Godbrothers combined never said bad against him, like he said against them.

 

And if the many disciples of Prabhupada's own Godbrothers ever read what HDG wrote about their Gurudevas, they would flip.

 

No body, apart from his supporters, was free from Prabhupada's 'Ninda'. Just try to find where Prabhupada says something nice about anyone else (besides his supporters). .!? Can you find an instance?

 

So be careful in trying to imitate Prabhupada's "marketing decisions", because many are NOT FACT.

 

In fact, half the disciples of Prabhupada (but NOT me) are certain that Prabhupada was *murdered by his own disciples* (which would be a despicable end if true).

 

So WHAT do you know by yourself??? Don't YOU know something? Use your OWN intelligence, don't just repeat like a parrot...

 

Y/s,

R-

 

sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:

>

> Sir, I do not "Know better than Prabhupada" BUT I do "Know Prabhupada" personally. I was his associate and we did entire "Nectar if Instruction" working together. I was with him day and night. Speaking mostly in Bengali." So I know Prabhupada, and in spite of what he wrote I can separate truth from fiction because I know Prabhupada personally.

>

> Prabhupada wrote bad-mouthing about 99% of everybody. He said Shankar was wrong, Vallabh was wrong, yogis are wrong, jnanis are wrong, Jains and Sikhs are wronmg, Vivakananda was wrong, Buddhists are called the worse names and are wrong, karmis are wrong, Gita Press is non-devotee (in spite of evidence), he also said his own senior Godbrothers were "MayavadisNon-devoteesBlack like gorrillaEnvious black snakes", and loads of other UNTRUE statements that are NOT a fact. I knew Prabhupada's Godbrothers and they had hands, legs, and were not snakes, nor Mayavadis. They were Vaishnava Sadhus. So if Prabhupada can bad-mouth his OWN SENIOR GODBROTHERS, they how could Gita Press possibly escape the onslaught?

>

> Prabhupada wanted people to read HIS Gita, not the competition (Gita Press) so it was a "marketing statement" plain and simple.

>

> Now I knew Prabhupada personally. And I knew Hanuman Prasad personally. So I'm in a good position to say. Have you ever met these illustrious individuals? NO? - Then I pity you!!!

>

> sacred-objects, "rnldef" <rnldef@> wrote:

> >

> > Have you ever considered writing a book on this subject explaining your views, for those of us who are interested but don't have the time or qualifications to do our own research? Taking into consideration of course the predictable ISKCON response of "you think you know more than Prabhupad?" or "you are just being blasphemous" .

> >

> > If one googles C.L. Goswami or Goyandka and Bhaktivedanta, there are references to Srila Prabhupad having referred to Gita Press as full of Mayavad philosophy and advising his disciples not to read those books.

> >

> > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:

> > >

> > > GITA PRESS: "Srimad Bhagavatam": 10th Canto: Page 1257 by C. L. Goswami, M. A., Sastri - footnote...

> > >

> > > * "Authoritative Vaisnava commentators like Sanatana Goswami, who are believed to have actually witnessed these Lilas of Sri Krsna and His beloved Gopis by the special grace of the Lord, have traced the following utterances to Sri Radha, on the basis of the Agni-Purana as well as on the strength of their own transcendent vision. Again, these utterances are believed to have escaped from lips of Sri Radha in a state of divine ecstasy (Divyonmada) . Which has no parallel anywhere and is the special monopoly of Sri Radha a unique personification of Mahabhava, the highest and purest form of divine Love. These utteraances have also been classified under various heads such as Ghitrajalpa, which have been clearly defined in standard works on poetics like the Ujjvala-nilamani of Rupa Goswami."

> > >

> > > ---> NOW TELL ME THAT IS WRITTEN BY an Advaitavadin SHANKARITE!? ?? Mr Goswami MUST not only be a Vaishnava, but a Gaudiya Vaishnava in particular - otherwise he couldn't know this information.

> > >

> > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG

> > > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author

> > > www.richardshawbrow n.com

> > >

> > >

> > > Get your new Email address!

> > > Grab the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted before someone else does!

> > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/

> > >

> >

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