Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 dear friends based on my information, not even all male jackals shed this horn but it is only the leader of the pack which makes it rarer and powerful. hence the answer to your query is that i never heard of female siyar singhis. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun www.rudraksharemedy.com sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Sir, > > Based on logic I can assure you there must be female Siyar Singhi too. Otherwise how do they propagate? > > But Panditji can tell about availability... > > Y/s, Richard > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author > www.richardshawbrown.com > > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, gaurav aggarwal <shreshthyantra wrote: > > gaurav aggarwal <shreshthyantra > Re: Re: nagamani > sacred-objects > Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 3:37 PM > > > > > > Dear Pandit Arjun Ji, > I Am New In The Group. > Can You Tell Me > Is There Any Female Siyar Singhi . > > --- On Sun, 2/8/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > > Re: nagamani > sacred-objects > Sunday, 2 August, 2009, 8:46 AM > > > > > dear richardji > > you are right. paths are many but the destination is one. god is one and forms are many. philosophies are many but truth is one. > > while providing sacred objects too, the dealing is in two different contrast ways. one is purely on quality methods corroborated by a scientific lab test and the other purely based on faith, belief and trust. the former was introduced to this service segment recently whereas the latter was there in store since ages immemorial. a small image of hanuman that came as a gift to a muslim barrack hussain obama was held with faith and reverance and once he becomes president obama, that image gets more wanted whereas in india it is a common household practice even in the poorest poor families to tie a small image of lord hanuman in a small copper coin to most children and many elders too wear it and worship for lifetime. > > being a healer which i do not according to science and purely based on > faith, i may digress from the scientific methods but i respect all these systems and their functioning. > > to be specific, nagamani is what is desccribed by a scientist as some gem that emanates light permanently like a switched on bulb and at nights it can be used as an alternative to electric blub to read books and save on power bill. some may even believe that it can be kept in a cricket or football stadium at night whereafter the whole stadium can be seen in light. some respected members even opined that it must be burnt for some ten minutes and it shall remain undamaged. > > may i advise the members that the entire snake (including stones on or in it) are perishable in fire and many puranas have stories how king parikshit conducted a sarpamedha yagam wherein he killed thousands of snakes whereafter the snake god curses and kill him and from then people are afraid of snakes and their power to curse. the snakes taking ichhadhari shape or form > is also seen at that time. > > hence i rest my case by offering this nagamani in picture as nagamani, a stone from snake, which emits light at will in nature and not give light permanently. by the way, the asking price is not in crores like other nagamanis but is only a couple of lakh indian rupees. > > with best wishes and blessings > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > sacred-objects, " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > I agree with you. All I'm saying, as a Gemologist, is " neti neti " . If it's no OTHER thing, then it must be nagamani. It's like two Sadhus talking. One asks the other, " What are you seeking? " He replied, " I'm looking to find where is Bhagavan! And you? " The other sadhu > replied, " I'm looking to find where Bhagavan ISN'T! " - so who is right? > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > namaste richardji > > > > > > while your concern in getting only genuine sacred objects is appreciated, i request you to kindly have a open mind in accommodating new things which are in digression to what we or you are dealing. > > > > > > for example, one most trusted nepalese wholesale rudraksha supplier from whom almost all retailers have bought rudrakshas is selling a " om " rudraksha. just like you, i too tempted to jump to a conclusion as is written by an expert that any craving or writing on a rudraksha is fake > as the rudraksha do not have any such except lines. but he vouched to prove that the " om " inscription is real. initially it took time for me to accept it but later when i saw the omkar parvat near mount kailsh whose peak resembles as if it was cut in the shape of " om " and the snow looks like the ink with which om is written one has to believe that even the om inscription on that rudraksha is natural. just google omkar parvat and you get all its natural wonderful images in full glory. > > > > > > similarly collectors were calling it trash and myth when dinosaur eggs were found. > > > > > > now when nagamani was seen once by you, you reconcicled that it does exist. you have accepted that there are many other snake stones which are not as famous as the legendary nagamani as shown in an artist view that it is found atop the hood of a snake shining radiantly like that of a worker in a deep underground mine or cave wearing a > light atop his helmet. > > > > > > so, to come to terms we shall accept the fact that there are other stones form snake which too are reverred and sacred notwithstanding the light part. as per hindu belief, the whole snake is worshipped as such and especially in south india women reverr the snake to get blessings and boons to get a child and a full day naga chaturthi is followed in south while naga panchami is followed in north. > > > > > > i vouch for the genuinity of the stone coming from a snake and it looks like amber and natural and is not glass. it has some light within it and it did emit light at night when kept in nature and i have seen it myself. when i took the photo of it at night, it is not coming clearly. so when i took it under bright light in photo studio, the light in it is coming down like a flame which can be seen in the photo. i request members not to jump to conclusions that it is looking like this or > that which is like calling which bird or animal is there within an egg just by seeing the egg. in this particular nagamani, i feel it is better to see the object in person to have better feel and idea and interested persons are welcome to see it freely at my place in hyderabad for which they can contact on my email. > > > > > > the photo is attached in the section underthe following link which can be viewed by the discerning collectors. > > > > > > http://groups. / group/sacred- objects/photos/ album/1189920729 /pic/427779184/ view?picmode= & mode=tn & order=ordinal & start=1 & count= 20 & dir=asc > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaste, Panditji, > > > > > > > > The stone pictured in that link looks VERY PHONY. With the snake painted on it by baking. I have seen a lot of so-called snake stone, but testing proved them to be something else. You can't realize Brahman on faith alone, you must apply " neti neti " to rule-out MAYA. > > > > > > > > Beware! There are more lies about so-called Sacred Objects than any other items in the world. But YOU know the difference between a REAL Shalagram and bogus one. The black translucent ones are BOGUS and are simply tumbled garnets. > > > > > > > > > Better rule out illusion completely to reach the truth. Neti neti!! > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > dear richardji > > > > > > > > > > the snake stone i have seen and is being offered is not a glass for sure as i have tested it myself. the supplier says that the toughness and the light and colours keep varying with the age of the snake. > > > > > > > > > > here below i provide a link of a blogspot where one native is having a white snake stone and that native is not selling and shared only upon request for knowledge. > > > > > > > > > > http://www.deonanda n.com/2008/ 04/snake- stone-part- deux.html > > > > > > > > > > the snake stone i got is similar to this but in honey colour and had some yellowish light in it. > > > > > > > > > > anyway, while dealing in rare objects, we shall not creat boundaries and shall be open to new discoveries. when everyone thought dinosaurs were myth, thanks to steven spielberg, several fossilised dinosaur eggs were discovered from various parts of the world. > > > > > > > > > > in any case this snake stone does not glow permanently as some claim and shines at will and is not glass and has some light in it. > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste! Thanks for the info. Yes! Of course there MUST be real snake stones. I have a petrified one that doesn't glow but I checked with a lab and it was NOT glass or any known material. Others I have checked proved immediately to be artificial glass, so it's fair to say that a simple " neti neti " lab test is in order BEFORE selling this Mani. Because if the buyer gets it checked and it's glass, then your ass is grass (so to speak). The only cobra Ichadhari Nagamani I ever saw was owned by a rich Muslim family in Sri Lanka - NOT for sale. They > sent a team to Bangkok to show me the mani.. it looked like a pearl but it glowed strongly in every condition. It was about 7mm round. I asked how much it cost, and they laughed and said thet're come to verify from me, not to sell. I compared to descriptions in Garuda Puranam and it was real in all respects. So I told them, " Yes, it's real! " They said thanks you and I never saw them again. But I got a photograph of it glowing in the dark which I have sent to this group many times. It was in no way transparent or glassy looking. So get the simple test: IF it's glass, or other known item, then it is NOT Nagamani. It's that simple... > > > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > there are many myths surrounding the mystic nagamani and i too was hearing it as a myth but recently after studying various scripture references and what various people experienced, i understood that there are various types of nagamanis which we can now, for discussion purpose, call stones of a snake or snake stones aka snake gems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > colours of nagamanis: > > > > > > > scriptures mention that nagamanis are available in various colours and the most spotted ones are yellow, honey, green light green, red and even white. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > light > emission: > > > > > > > as regards emission of light, there are some snake stones or gems which emit light at will and some stones that wont emit any light. the legendary nagamani shown in an artistic viewpoint as a big ruby type red gem atop the hood of king cobra is not seen or available anywhere in my knowledge. members are at liberty to share any information if they have on this. most snakecharmers and those who deal in these items say that the growth of light emission is proportionate to the age of the snake and the stone from an younger snake do not possess that much light as that of an old snake gem. so nagamanis which are genuine from snakes but are not old enough or grown enough do not emit enough light yet they are rarest to get. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recently i have been fortunate to see a nagamani from a trusted supplier who lives in jungles and it was in honey colour, was solid > and was a sort of transparent and was emitting some light though not several feet or meters away. after repeated requests, he agreed to sell it for few lakhs of rupees and am only facilitating his sale to help him. after few tests, i found that it emits light at will especially when it is kept atop a leaf or a flower in dark in nature and not inside house. some members may be looking for a torchlight or batterycell type object which must emit light 24 hours applying physics and science principles. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > let me clarify and state clearly that this nagamani is being made available purely on the basis of faith and not on the sole criteria of it throwing light like a switched on electric bulb. so members looking for an ever shining round the clock light emiting nagamani, may excuse me as i dont have such. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would soon share the > photograph of it with the group so that discerning collectors can have it on first come first served basis and the expected price too is only in affordable six digit indian rupees. am not subjecting it to burning test etc., as i feel it holy and rever it with belief to receive the blessings and boons from the nagaraja. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > Hurry before someone else does! > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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