Guest guest Posted July 15, 2009 Report Share Posted July 15, 2009 Shastra supplies information on every type of Shalagram Shila, but it's ALWAYS Vishnu. It is not related to any Graha. So why not same for Rudraksha and Lord Shiva!?? Every mukhi is Lord Shiva. Isn't that GOOD ENOUGH? As for difference of mukhis we should follow Shastra, keeping in mind it's always Lord Shiva behind every Rudraksha. If Jupiter can call himself " Rudraksha " , then he becomes a Graha guilty of copyright violation. Using name of Lord Rudra without a license or Scriptural authority. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33 wrote: > > Dear Richardji, > > I second your opinion about co-relation of Rudraksha with planets. I recently read specific chapter in Shiva Maha Puran on Rudraksha and it does not mention of any relation of Rudraksha with planets. Also this relationship has changed recently on some websites. Many people have invested in 8 mukhi assuming it is for Rahu. The ruling god of eight mukhi is lord Ganesha, the first-born child of universe and Ketu is directly linked with Ganesha, this change was reflected very recently by some websites where as the relationship between lord Ganesha and Ketu existed in scriptures from beginning. But some of associations like planet Sun assigned to 3 mukhi seems irrational. The direct planetary association to particular mukhi is not mentioned in scriptures. Pandit Arjunji can throw more light on this. > > Regards > Ishwar > > > > sacred-objects , Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > I am wondering what is the co-relation between Shalagram Shila and Grahas? There is none in particular. Because Shalagram is Vishnu. And Rudraksha is Lord Shiva. So, what is the need for made-up planet-Rudraksha co-relation? Why not JUST Shiva-shakti? We KNOW that is true. But planet relationship sounds unnecessary and man-made (imaginary). With Shalagram there is no need of astrology, so why is there a need with Rudraksha? Unless it is really Shastric. > > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG > > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author > > www.richardshawbrown.com > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > Hurry before someone else does! > > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2009 Report Share Posted July 16, 2009 Dear All, being a member of this forum I read more and comment less-but this time I thought I need to write a thing or two. Why do we have to assign planets for specific rudraksha ? that two depending upon the number system on the basis of faces it has. The very theory of assigning a number to a planet seems ridiculous to me . Vedic astrolgy based on natal chart and houses is a science in itself --yielding different combinations,( more than millions ,explaining which is beyond the scope of this post temporarily), resulting in a probabability(situation) the the native will face due to planetary motion. Vedic astrology and mathematics evolved concurrently , if numbers were to be assigned to planets so simplistically --our ancient scholars would have done so . Otherwise we have to assume that astrlogers were not mathematicians or mathematicians did not hear about contemporary astrology , in a country which gave the rest of the world the concept of zero. Numerology could also be justified as science as numbers often repeat itself in our life time giving certain indications. what we are trying to do crudely combine the three --astrology +numerology+rudraksha. Unknowingly we are playing into the hands of dealers who are offering rudraksha as a remedy for planetary ill effects, as an easy way of changing luck --the traders wont simply be able to sell it to vedic astrology believers ,which is a sizeable population ,if he only says feel the cosmic vibration of Shiva in rudraksha.So it is a very well thought out marketing policy. I did not have objections with other sites which assign 14 mukhi to shani ---and say " wear this and u win a super lotto tomorrow with shanis blessings"----until I saw rudrakshas being assigned to planets with the help of numbers in Richard's Site---oops that hurt me. As he is, I thought Richard ,a most rational Hindu (not for his profound knowledge of sacred texts but for his rational thoughts and realisation).(U can be a bigger hindu than by birth if U are a hindu by philosophy). And I am sure he just wanted to add another sacred object to his site without thinking too much . Classification of rudrakshas having different properties having different faces are but welcome. Most sites that have vested interest of selling Rudrakshas by misleading people who want to change their LUCK, quickly. All Rudrakshas will Help u get Shiva (through proper Japa)--it can even change your DESTINY. I am ready for all the bombs ,right now to expolde in this forum, specially Richard's See u later If u don't expell me ---Sudipto Ray.--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Rudraksha=Lord Rudra (Shiva), so WHY Grahas?sacred-objects Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 8:35 PM Only thing I know for sure about Rudraksha is that Rudra Center know better than me. I'm no expert in Rudraksha like Sriman Kamal Seetha. So I have to consider... Y/s, Richardsacred-objects, "ishwar33" <ishwar33@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Richardji,> > The new planetary association also changes the market dynamics, the website say 3 Mukhi is for malefic sun, but sells 3 mukhi talisman with coral and 8 mukji is for Ketu but it has gem of Rahu. > A> lso it is very misleading the description on following URL says 8 mukhi is for Ketu. > http://www.rudraksh a-ratna.com/ dispProduct. php?prodId= 40> > And the description changes for same product called ganesh talisman> http://www.rudraksh a-ratna.com/ dispProduct. php?prodId= 363> > > The changes are not being done uniformly and it would confuse the customers and also affect the sales of existing rudraksha talisman with gems and render them obsolete.> > Regards,> Ishwar> > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Yes! I recently spoke to the Chief Brahmin Priest of Thailand, Pt Vidyadhar Shulka, I showed him a 9 mukhi and said it was for Ketu. He said it was NOT for Ketu...it was for Shiva, in particular Nava Durga Shakti. He told me all Rudraksha are for Shiva, and Shiva can effect or overrule any and all grahas. So what do the Shastras have to say about the "powers" of each number of mukhis? It is all Shiva. Every mukhi. I need to reread Sri Kamal Seetha's book again to see what information to give my clients that is backed by Shastra.> > > > 3 mukhi for Sun!? The number three is for Jupiter. Or you could say Tri-murti. But Sun!??? Where's the logic? Where's the proof?> > > > Y/s,> > Richard> > sacred-objects, "ishwar33" <ishwar33@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Richardji,> > > > > > I second your opinion about co-relation of Rudraksha with planets. I recently read specific chapter in Shiva Maha Puran on Rudraksha and it does not mention of any relation of Rudraksha with planets. Also this relationship has changed recently on some websites. Many people have invested in 8 mukhi assuming it is for Rahu. The ruling god of eight mukhi is lord Ganesha, the first-born child of universe and Ketu is directly linked with Ganesha, this change was reflected very recently by some websites where as the relationship between lord Ganesha and Ketu existed in scriptures from beginning. But some of associations like planet Sun assigned to 3 mukhi seems irrational. The direct planetary association to particular mukhi is not mentioned in scriptures. Pandit Arjunji can throw more light on this.> > > > > > Regards> > > Ishwar> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > I am wondering what is the co-relation between Shalagram Shila and Grahas? There is none in particular. Because Shalagram is Vishnu. And Rudraksha is Lord Shiva. So, what is the need for made-up planet-Rudraksha co-relation? Why not JUST Shiva-shakti? We KNOW that is true. But planet relationship sounds unnecessary and man-made (imaginary). With Shalagram there is no need of astrology, so why is there a need with Rudraksha? Unless it is really Shastric.> > > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG> > > > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author> > > > www.richardshawbrow n.com> > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > > > Hurry before someone else does!> > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/> > > >> > >> >> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Namaste Sudipto....I agree to each and every word of your posting....Well said sudipto...--- On Thu, 16/7/09, sudipto ray <sudiptoray2k wrote:sudipto ray <sudiptoray2kRe: Re: Rudraksha=Lord Rudra (Shiva), so WHY Grahas?sacred-objects Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 9:53 PM Dear All, being a member of this forum I read more and comment less-but this time I thought I need to write a thing or two. Why do we have to assign planets for specific rudraksha ? that two depending upon the number system on the basis of faces it has.. The very theory of assigning a number to a planet seems ridiculous to me . Vedic astrolgy based on natal chart and houses is a science in itself --yielding different combinations,( more than millions ,explaining which is beyond the scope of this post temporarily), resulting in a probabability(situation) the the native will face due to planetary motion. Vedic astrology and mathematics evolved concurrently , if numbers were to be assigned to planets so simplistically --our ancient scholars would have done so . Otherwise we have to assume that astrlogers were not mathematicians or mathematicians did not hear about contemporary astrology , in a country which gave the rest of the world the concept of zero. Numerology could also be justified as science as numbers often repeat itself in our life time giving certain indications. what we are trying to do crudely combine the three --astrology +numerology+rudraksha. Unknowingly we are playing into the hands of dealers who are offering rudraksha as a remedy for planetary ill effects, as an easy way of changing luck --the traders wont simply be able to sell it to vedic astrology believers ,which is a sizeable population ,if he only says feel the cosmic vibration of Shiva in rudraksha.So it is a very well thought out marketing policy. I did not have objections with other sites which assign 14 mukhi to shani ---and say " wear this and u win a super lotto tomorrow with shanis blessings"----until I saw rudrakshas being assigned to planets with the help of numbers in Richard's Site---oops that hurt me. As he is, I thought Richard ,a most rational Hindu (not for his profound knowledge of sacred texts but for his rational thoughts and realisation).(U can be a bigger hindu than by birth if U are a hindu by philosophy). And I am sure he just wanted to add another sacred object to his site without thinking too much . Classification of rudrakshas having different properties having different faces are but welcome. Most sites that have vested interest of selling Rudrakshas by misleading people who want to change their LUCK, quickly. All Rudrakshas will Help u get Shiva (through proper Japa)--it can even change your DESTINY. I am ready for all the bombs ,right now to expolde in this forum, specially Richard's See u later If u don't expell me ---Sudipto Ray.--- On Thu, 16/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Rudraksha=Lord Rudra (Shiva), so WHY Grahas?sacred-objects Date: Thursday, 16 July, 2009, 8:35 PM Only thing I know for sure about Rudraksha is that Rudra Center know better than me. I'm no expert in Rudraksha like Sriman Kamal Seetha. So I have to consider... Y/s, Richardsacred-objects, "ishwar33" <ishwar33@.. .> wrote:>> Dear Richardji,> > The new planetary association also changes the market dynamics, the website say 3 Mukhi is for malefic sun, but sells 3 mukhi talisman with coral and 8 mukji is for Ketu but it has gem of Rahu. > A> lso it is very misleading the description on following URL says 8 mukhi is for Ketu. > http://www.rudraksh a-ratna.com/ dispProduct. php?prodId= 40> > And the description changes for same product called ganesh talisman> http://www.rudraksh a-ratna.com/ dispProduct.. php?prodId= 363> > > The changes are not being done uniformly and it would confuse the customers and also affect the sales of existing rudraksha talisman with gems and render them obsolete.> > Regards,> Ishwar> > > > sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66@> wrote:> >> > Yes! I recently spoke to the Chief Brahmin Priest of Thailand, Pt Vidyadhar Shulka, I showed him a 9 mukhi and said it was for Ketu. He said it was NOT for Ketu...it was for Shiva, in particular Nava Durga Shakti. He told me all Rudraksha are for Shiva, and Shiva can effect or overrule any and all grahas. So what do the Shastras have to say about the "powers" of each number of mukhis? It is all Shiva. Every mukhi. I need to reread Sri Kamal Seetha's book again to see what information to give my clients that is backed by Shastra.> > > > 3 mukhi for Sun!? The number three is for Jupiter. Or you could say Tri-murti. But Sun!??? Where's the logic? Where's the proof?> > > > Y/s,> > Richard> > sacred-objects, "ishwar33" <ishwar33@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Richardji,> > > > > > I second your opinion about co-relation of Rudraksha with planets. I recently read specific chapter in Shiva Maha Puran on Rudraksha and it does not mention of any relation of Rudraksha with planets. Also this relationship has changed recently on some websites. Many people have invested in 8 mukhi assuming it is for Rahu. The ruling god of eight mukhi is lord Ganesha, the first-born child of universe and Ketu is directly linked with Ganesha, this change was reflected very recently by some websites where as the relationship between lord Ganesha and Ketu existed in scriptures from beginning. But some of associations like planet Sun assigned to 3 mukhi seems irrational. The direct planetary association to particular mukhi is not mentioned in scriptures. Pandit Arjunji can throw more light on this.> > > > > > Regards> > > Ishwar> > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > I am wondering what is the co-relation between Shalagram Shila and Grahas? There is none in particular. Because Shalagram is Vishnu. And Rudraksha is Lord Shiva. So, what is the need for made-up planet-Rudraksha co-relation? Why not JUST Shiva-shakti? We KNOW that is true. But planet relationship sounds unnecessary and man-made (imaginary). With Shalagram there is no need of astrology, so why is there a need with Rudraksha? Unless it is really Shastric.> > > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown, PG> > > > Musician, Designer, Gemologist & Author> > > > www.richardshawbrow n.com> > > > > > > > > > > > New Email addresses available on > > > > Get the Email name you & #39;ve always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. > > > > Hurry before someone else does!> > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/> > > >> > >> >> recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2009 Report Share Posted July 17, 2009 Well said Sudipto,truly said. sacred-objects , sudipto ray <sudiptoray2k wrote: > > Dear All, being a member of this forum I read more and comment less-but this time I thought I need to write a thing or two. ---------------------.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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