Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 This site is completely bona fide when it comes to Lakshmi Shank http://www.divinenet.arthost.biz/generic.asp?p=12 & i=151 sacred-objects , " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > after having done initial study of various scriptural references, i understand there are many snake pearls aka nagamanis with different colours. so members please dont fix to an observation that nagamani is only in one colour. > > following link is a good write up on nagamani. > > http://www.divinenet.arthost.biz/generic.asp?p=1 & i=151 > > with best wishes and blessinsg > pandit arjun > www.rudraksharemedy.com > > sacred-objects , KRISNA <paraman777@> wrote: > > > > dear pandiji > > what you said is very menaingful > > we have to follow the scriptures ,as they are the true ancient vision authority and wisdom of a great culture ,which no science has ever negated,otherwise > > even the ancients knew arithmetic progression,as seen in the srirudra,such as ekam,,,.thryam,,,,pancham,,,.saptham,,,, etc > > also many samhithas carry theories of science,proved later only > > similarly ,science has reached a particular level of evolution,proving many things > > it does not mean that is the only truth > > many natural wonders are there,which science can not explain > > eg the bermuda triangle,,,,it is a place described in many hindu srcriputres where an agni called Ouwrwa agni is put,which rises to surface at the time of destruction of world and was warned not to pass over that region in samudra as that it pulls down even planes or ohther carriers such as submarines > > what has science found about it > > even somebody with an instrument, can not reach within 3--5 kms to that area > > Many say that Nagmani exists,and some who have seen it closely, the description of which,i have given earlier.5 years back ,,,,i interviewed a boy of 14 year nearly also ,who went with the team to a forest head,and his description is believable being a boy ,without the possible crookedness of elders > > the one was described as emitting light,nearly 10 feet at night of different colours > > it was chilly and electric felt,when taken at hand > > floated midway of a glass of water > > when a sound was produced it withdrew the light as if living beings sense > > the light emitted clould be cut with hand and would be seen as two portions > > it is such a light that emits,,,,,the persons said they spent much money to even see it > > but i have not seen anything like that > > krisna > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> wrote: > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@> > > Re: Nagamani reply > > sacred-objects > > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 1:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear richardji > > > > > > > > firstly kindly let me clarify that i was only giving my point of making available something IF it comes to me. > > > > > > > > to speak the truth, i have NOT YET laid my hands on a nagamani and hence do not comment. however, god willing, if the nagamani wish to bless someone through me, surely i will get a nagamani soonest and would waste no time in offering it to the discerning customers who have faith and belief. of course the photographs and details would be shared in public for all to see and comment if and when it comes. > > > > > > > > whenever you deal in something for the first time, it is always fraught with lack of historic data or experience. four decades ago when some unclear voices were heard on the radio and some images were shown on the tv, the whole world believed curiously that the man has landed on the moon and is speaking from the moon. it is a different thing that even after most modern sophisticated technological innovations later, no second bold attempt was made till date to send another man to the moon. > > > > > > > > having said the above, i am not shy of dealing something for the first time just because of no past experience or lack of data. > > > > > > > > as regards scepticism and disbelief, there are crores of atheists across the world and who trash a stone as a stone but those who worship a stone as sacred shviling dont try to convince the disbelievers. simply put, any sacred object is meant for the believers. science has a limited role to play. for example if i say the ruling lord of a particular rudrakhsa is so and so, that so and so diety does not sit on the rudrakhsa nor his percieved or assumed image is inscribed over the rudraksha. it is simply the belief as written in the sacred texts and followed only by believers. believers buy and get certain benefits as attributed. > > > > > > > > similarly if a nagamani comes to us and the native gets the benefits as inscribed in the garuda purana as narrated by you over a period of time, naturally the native validates it as a nagamani having given what it is supposed to be. anyway i deal purely on faith and belief of what scriptures say and offer to those who believe in scriptures and faith. for those who go only by lab report, they are at liberty to do so and i respect their liberty and freedom. > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > pandit arjun > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > > > > > > > Some members are directing my attention to clear transparent so-called Nagamani. I tested. Result: Artificial glass. > > > > > > > > > > Now, If someone sold you a ruby as ruby, then you tested and it was Artificial Glass! - How would you feel? > > > > > > > > > > Y/s, > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > the conclusive view expessed by richardji that only fools sell a nagamani is true to any normal person who gets hold of a priceless nagamani or lakshmi shankh or any other rarest holy sacred object. > > > > > > > > > > > > however, let me adivse the members as to how three types of humans used to get hold of sacred objects and how they used them in the yester years. > > > > > > > > > > > > the categorisation is based on the satva, rajas and tamas gunas. brahmins of yester yugas (with satva guna) in general and sages in particular used to do lot of meditations, tapas etc. and they always and at all times pray and seek boons for the wellbeing of the world and nothing for self. i can narrate thousands of stories from puranas where sages got so many holy objects which they gifted to kings to look after the people of the kingdom etc. applying this in present time, if a selfless sage gets such things, he would surely dont keep and give away to a king or a person who donates for the cause of dharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > kings, vaishyas and others of yesteryugas (with rajas guna) also used to search, do tapas and get such objects either for their own benefit or for the benefit of their near and dear and they also used to barter or sell for a good deal. present day, this sort of people under tamas guna comprising of businessmen and materially successful people search and get something for their benefit and they dont mind paying a premium like all collectors of sacred objects do. > > > > > > > > > > > > rakshasas of yesteryugas (with tamas guna) also used to search, do tapas or take by force such objects and most of the time they use the objects to overpower and cause harm to others. presently this apply to those who use secretive divine course of tantra with some sacred objects to harm others which is adharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > in view of the above, members may kindly infer that if a selfless person gets hold of a sacred object which is priceless and produce miracles but he has no use, he would surely gift away or sell to others where this can benefit. > > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly, i am a single person who do not need such great material benefits which such priceless objects like nagamani deliver but if i get hold of a nagamani, will surely make it available to a discerning collector and do take a donation. good news is that this group is the first place where i would offer it first if and when i get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Rick Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir (Madam?), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your question. Below is what Sri Garuda Purana says about Nagamani. I have seen so many fools and rascals concerning so-called Nagamani. But I have photo and have personally seen real, as described here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides oyster pearls there are seven other types found in conch shells, wild boars' heads, elephant heads, king cobra's heads, bamboo stems, clouds, and fish heads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pearls from the cobra's hood are perfectly round, like fish pearls, and they radiate a natural effulgence. By repeated washing, a snake pearl becomes as lustrous as a polished sword blade. Anyone possessing such a naga-mani attains piety, rare good fortune, and eventually becomes illustrious as a leader of men, complete with a great collection of all precious gems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon acquiring such a snake pearl, the owner should have the rite of installation performed y a priest who is learned in religious formalities. After hearing from the owner how the pearl was obtained and conducting the benedictory ritual, the priest should formally install the jewel inside the owner's house. On such an auspicious occasion, the sky becomes filled with dark and heavy rain clouds, thunder, and flashing lightning,such as exhibited at the time of universal dissolution. A man in possession of such a snake pearl will never be troubled by snakes, demonic beings, diseases, or disturbances in any form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question is Do you WANT one? Do you HAVE one? The only one I ever saw would not sell for any price. It is priceless. Only a fool would sell away a lucky priceless sacred-object. Selling it means it DOESN'T WORK and/or is BOGUS. So anyone who wants to sell is either a fool or a rascal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y/s > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: nagamani > > > > > > > " Rick Brown " <rsbj66@> > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 2:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all thank you for > > > > > > > answering my mail, > > > > > > > yes i accept that i don't have much knowledge about the > > > > > > > nagamani .....I am sending you the total things which I > > > > > > > experienced . > > > > > > > Then I checked in internet for some genuine person > > > > > > > who got good knowledge about nagamani. > > > > > > > Through the help of google i found about you and your > > > > > > > companies,,, blah! Blah! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rick Brown's iPhone > > > > > > > www.richardshawbrow n.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your preferred Email name! > > > > > > > Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail. com. > > > > > > > http://mail. promotions. / newdomains/ aa/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Get your preferred Email name! > > Now you can @ymail.com and @rocketmail.com. > > http://mail.promotions./newdomains/aa/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Dear Sir, My Gurudev is a great saint. BUT, he is not an airline pilot, nor a brain surgeon nor a conchologist, and knows nothing about these things. What you wrote is ISKCON nuvo-spiritual concocted nonsense. It's wrong. Iskcon is fooled by the same scam that fooled you. Y/s R- sacred-objects , KRISNA <paraman777 wrote: > > > dear ji > when i said that all whelks are dakshinavartis,many told relating to some xrays and other modern theories > this is what the great bhaktivedanta prabhupada ji 's view as given in the above link > pl note,in the picture also there is whelk > > One > of the last century's most widely known Vedic scholars, A.C. > Bhaktivedanta Prabhupad, offered that for today's practitioners of > Vaidika Dharma, other types of shells such as the whelk are > acceptable. Sri Prabhupad, founder of ISKON in 1966, is held by many > as a significant spiritual leader of Vedic practice and primary > proponent of Krishna Consciousness. As many of the Vedic artifacts are > heavily concentrated in areas well outside the subcontinent, we will > hold with the broader view regarding a Dakshinavarti family of > right-handed Conch shells, and you will see in the gallery a number of > types of Dakshinawarti Shankh (that vary in reverence over many > generations), as well as examples of the Ganesha Shankha as pieces are > located > this was a portion of the link > > krisna > > > --- On Sun, 12/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Bona fide Lakshmi Shank site > sacred-objects > Sunday, 12 July, 2009, 3:56 AM > > > > > > > > > > > This site is completely bona fide when it comes to Lakshmi Shank > > http://www.divinene t.arthost. biz/generic. asp?p=12 & i=151 > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ ....> wrote: > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > after having done initial study of various scriptural references, i understand there are many snake pearls aka nagamanis with different colours. so members please dont fix to an observation that nagamani is only in one colour. > > > > > > following link is a good write up on nagamani. > > > > > > http://www.divinene t.arthost. biz/generic. asp?p=1 & i= 151 > > > > > > with best wishes and blessinsg > > > pandit arjun > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > sacred-objects, KRISNA <paraman777@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > dear pandiji > > > > what you said is very menaingful > > > > we have to follow the scriptures ,as they are the true ancient vision authority and wisdom of a great culture ,which no science has ever negated,otherwise > > > > even the ancients knew arithmetic progression, as seen in the srirudra,such as ekam,,,.thryam, ,,,pancham, ,,.saptham, ,,, etc > > > > also many samhithas carry theories of science,proved later only > > > > similarly ,science has reached a particular level of evolution,proving many things > > > > it does not mean that is the only truth > > > > many natural wonders are there,which science can not explain > > > > eg the bermuda triangle,,,, it is a place described in many hindu srcriputres where an agni called Ouwrwa agni is put,which rises to surface at the time of destruction of world and was warned not to pass over that region in samudra as that it pulls down even planes or ohther carriers such as submarines > > > > what has science found about it > > > > even somebody with an instrument, can not reach within 3--5 kms to that area > > > > Many say that Nagmani exists,and some who have seen it closely, the description of which,i have given earlier.5 years back ,,,,i interviewed a boy of 14 year nearly also ,who went with the team to a forest head,and his description is believable being a boy ,without the possible crookedness of elders > > > > the one was described as emitting light,nearly 10 feet at night of different colours > > > > it was chilly and electric felt,when taken at hand > > > > floated midway of a glass of water > > > > when a sound was produced it withdrew the light as if living beings sense > > > > the light emitted clould be cut with hand and would be seen as two portions > > > > it is such a light that emits,,,,,the persons said they spent much money to even see it > > > > but i have not seen anything like that > > > > krisna > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004@ > > > > > Re: Nagamani reply > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 1:50 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear richardji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > firstly kindly let me clarify that i was only giving my point of making available something IF it comes to me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to speak the truth, i have NOT YET laid my hands on a nagamani and hence do not comment. however, god willing, if the nagamani wish to bless someone through me, surely i will get a nagamani soonest and would waste no time in offering it to the discerning customers who have faith and belief. of course the photographs and details would be shared in public for all to see and comment if and when it comes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whenever you deal in something for the first time, it is always fraught with lack of historic data or experience. four decades ago when some unclear voices were heard on the radio and some images were shown on the tv, the whole world believed curiously that the man has landed on the moon and is speaking from the moon. it is a different thing that even after most modern sophisticated technological innovations later, no second bold attempt was made till date to send another man to the moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having said the above, i am not shy of dealing something for the first time just because of no past experience or lack of data. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as regards scepticism and disbelief, there are crores of atheists across the world and who trash a stone as a stone but those who worship a stone as sacred shviling dont try to convince the disbelievers. simply put, any sacred object is meant for the believers. science has a limited role to play. for example if i say the ruling lord of a particular rudrakhsa is so and so, that so and so diety does not sit on the rudrakhsa nor his percieved or assumed image is inscribed over the rudraksha. it is simply the belief as written in the sacred texts and followed only by believers. believers buy and get certain benefits as attributed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similarly if a nagamani comes to us and the native gets the benefits as inscribed in the garuda purana as narrated by you over a period of time, naturally the native validates it as a nagamani having given what it is supposed to be. anyway i deal purely on faith and belief of what scriptures say and offer to those who believe in scriptures and faith. for those who go only by lab report, they are at liberty to do so and i respect their liberty and freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Panditji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Some members are directing my attention to clear transparent so-called Nagamani. I tested. Result: Artificial glass. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, If someone sold you a ruby as ruby, then you tested and it was Artificial Glass! - How would you feel? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y/s, > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, " panditarjun2004 " <panditarjun2004@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear friends > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the conclusive view expessed by richardji that only fools sell a nagamani is true to any normal person who gets hold of a priceless nagamani or lakshmi shankh or any other rarest holy sacred object. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > however, let me adivse the members as to how three types of humans used to get hold of sacred objects and how they used them in the yester years. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the categorisation is based on the satva, rajas and tamas gunas. brahmins of yester yugas (with satva guna) in general and sages in particular used to do lot of meditations, tapas etc. and they always and at all times pray and seek boons for the wellbeing of the world and nothing for self. i can narrate thousands of stories from puranas where sages got so many holy objects which they gifted to kings to look after the people of the kingdom etc. applying this in present time, if a selfless sage gets such things, he would surely dont keep and give away to a king or a person who donates for the cause of dharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > kings, vaishyas and others of yesteryugas (with rajas guna) also used to search, do tapas and get such objects either for their own benefit or for the benefit of their near and dear and they also used to barter or sell for a good deal. present day, this sort of people under tamas guna comprising of businessmen and materially successful people search and get something for their benefit and they dont mind paying a premium like all collectors of sacred objects do. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > rakshasas of yesteryugas (with tamas guna) also used to search, do tapas or take by force such objects and most of the time they use the objects to overpower and cause harm to others. presently this apply to those who use secretive divine course of tantra with some sacred objects to harm others which is adharma. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in view of the above, members may kindly infer that if a selfless person gets hold of a sacred object which is priceless and produce miracles but he has no use, he would surely gift away or sell to others where this can benefit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > accordingly, i am a single person who do not need such great material benefits which such priceless objects like nagamani deliver but if i get hold of a nagamani, will surely make it available to a discerning collector and do take a donation. good news is that this group is the first place where i would offer it first if and when i get it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with best wishes and blessings > > > > > > > > > > pandit arjun > > > > > > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy .com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects, Rick Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir (Madam?), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your question. Below is what Sri Garuda Purana says about Nagamani. I have seen so many fools and rascals concerning so-called Nagamani. But I have photo and have personally seen real, as described here... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Besides oyster pearls there are seven other types found in conch shells, wild boars' heads, elephant heads, king cobra's heads, bamboo stems, clouds, and fish heads. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pearls from the cobra's hood are perfectly round, like fish pearls, and they radiate a natural effulgence. By repeated washing, a snake pearl becomes as lustrous as a polished sword blade. Anyone possessing such a naga-mani attains piety, rare good fortune, and eventually becomes illustrious as a leader of men, complete with a great collection of all precious gems. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upon acquiring such a snake pearl, the owner should have the rite of installation performed y a priest who is learned in religious formalities. After hearing from the owner how the pearl was obtained and conducting the benedictory ritual, the priest should formally install the jewel inside the owner's house. On such an auspicious occasion, the sky becomes filled with dark and heavy rain clouds, thunder, and flashing lightning,such as exhibited at the time of universal dissolution. A man in possession of such a snake pearl will never be troubled by snakes, demonic beings, diseases, or disturbances in any form. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My question is Do you WANT one? Do you HAVE one? The only one I ever saw would not sell for any price. It is priceless. Only a fool would sell away a lucky priceless sacred-object. Selling it means it DOESN'T WORK and/or is BOGUS. So anyone who wants to sell is either a fool or a rascal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Y/s > > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: nagamani > > > > > > > > > > > " Rick Brown " <rsbj66@> > > > > > > > > > > > Thursday, 9 July, 2009, 2:22 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all thank you for > > > > > > > > > > > answering my mail, > > > > > > > > > > > yes i accept that i don't have much knowledge about the > > > > > > > > > > > nagamani .....I am sending you the total things which I > > > > > > > > > > > experienced . > > > > > > > > > > > Then I checked in internet for some genuine person > > > > > > > > > > > who got good knowledge about nagamani. > > > > > > > > > > > Through the help of google i found about you and your > > > > > > > > > > > companies,,, blah! 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