Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Rajiv Prabhu, Hare Krishna I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change. Thank you, Ys, Ole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu.Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8--- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup wrote: alstrup <alstrup For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objects Date: Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM Dear Rajiv Prabhu,Hare KrishnaI find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change.Thank you,Ys, Ole See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, Namaskar !! In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? Om Namh Shivaya With RegardsManoj Kr.Kar--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: Shaligram Shala <shaligram8Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objects Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu.Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8 --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: alstrup <alstrup > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objectsFriday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM Dear Rajiv Prabhu,Hare KrishnaI find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change.Thank you,Ys, Ole See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Rajiv Prabhu and all... Because there is no scriptural guidance for Rudraksha and Graha, the only logical way is to see the number of the Graha. The cosmic Fadic number. The number of Mars is 9, so it should be Nava-mukhi for Mars, and Jupiter is Tri-mukhi. I think the whole thing should be reorganized. At present, only 1 mukhi-Sun, 2 mukhi-Moon and 6 mukhi-Venus, makes any sense. We can't assign numbers to Rudrakshas based on the ORDER in which the grahas are normally listed. That is not a number system. Logical would be: 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi 2. Moon - 2 mukhi 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi 6. Venus - 6 mukhi 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi 9. Mars - 9 mukhi If some one tells me that a 12 mukhi acts like Sun, my question is, does it act like Sun OR like Rudraksha? We should present the matter before Kamal Seetha Narayana, who is a foremost authority on Rudraksha. And acccept his verdict. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , " MANOJ KR.KAR " <manoj_kar7 wrote: > > Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, > Namaskar !! > > In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? > > Om Namh Shivaya > > With Regards > Manoj Kr.Kar > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 wrote: > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > sacred-objects > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu. > > Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. > > I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu. > > I hope this will help, > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Have a Nice Day, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > 00 91 9322646421 > 0091 22 24459616 > salagram8 > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > > alstrup <alstrup > > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > sacred-objects > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu, > > Hare Krishna > > I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change. > > Thank you, > > Ys, Ole > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Rajiv Prabhu,Hari BolThank you very much, I look very much forward to learn more!Thanking you,Ys, OleShaligram Shala <shaligram8sacred-objects Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 12:17:03Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu.Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8 --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: alstrup <alstrup > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objectsFriday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM Dear Rajiv Prabhu,Hare KrishnaI find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change.Thank you,Ys, Ole See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Dear Richard,Hare KrishnaShri Kamal Narayan Seetha has already given the previous number system in chapter 8 "Astrological Viewpoint" in his book, but he has never explained the background for this system and that goes for anyone else who is using it, people are just giving this as a fact without any explanation. There are no astrological correlation given in any of the known rudraksha scriptures.Ys, OleRichard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 16:19:53 Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets Dear Rajiv Prabhu and all... Because there is no scriptural guidance for Rudraksha and Graha, the only logical way is to see the number of the Graha. The cosmic Fadic number. The number of Mars is 9, so it should be Nava-mukhi for Mars, and Jupiter is Tri-mukhi. I think the whole thing should be reorganized. At present, only 1 mukhi-Sun, 2 mukhi-Moon and 6 mukhi-Venus, makes any sense. We can't assign numbers to Rudrakshas based on the ORDER in which the grahas are normally listed. That is not a number system. Logical would be: 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi 2. Moon - 2 mukhi 3.. Jupiter - 3 mukhi 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi 6. Venus - 6 mukhi 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi 9. Mars - 9 mukhi If some one tells me that a 12 mukhi acts like Sun, my question is, does it act like Sun OR like Rudraksha? We should present the matter before Kamal Seetha Narayana, who is a foremost authority on Rudraksha. And acccept his verdict. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, "MANOJ KR.KAR" <manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, > Namaskar !! > > In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? > > Om Namh Shivaya > > With Regards > Manoj Kr.Kar > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > sacred-objects > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu. > > Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. > > I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu. > > I hope this will help, > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > devotees. Have a Nice Day, > Thanks and Regards, > Haribol, > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > 00 91 9322646421 > 0091 22 24459616 > salagram8 > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > > alstrup <alstrup > > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > sacred-objects > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu, > > Hare Krishna > > I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change. > > Thank you, > > Ys, Ole > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hi Ole, The explanation is that the nava-graha are generally named in that order 1-9. But that has nothing to do with the number of the planet. I would like to try this logical and numerically correct list, keeping in mind that ALL Rudrakshas act like Rudraksha, and not really planets: Numerically logical would be: 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi 2. Moon - 2 mukhi 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi 6. Venus - 6 mukhi 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi 9. Mars - 9 mukhi 10. Sun - 10 mukhi 11. Moon - 11 mukhi 12. Jupiter - 12 mukhi 13. Rahu - 13 mukhi 14. Mercury - 14 mukhi (a good Mercury can counter a bad Saturn?) 15. Venus - 15 mukhi 16. Ketu - 16 mukhi 17. Saturn - 17 mukhi 18. Mars - 18 mukhi 19. Sun - 19 mukhi 20. Moon - 20 mukhi 21. Jupiter - 21 mukhi. Now THIS makes sense numerically. But to assign numbers according to the order the names are listed in a sloka is not really numerology. For example, 3 is the number for Jupiter, NOT Mars. I think this should be investigated. And who better than Sri Kamal Seethaji!? Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , Ole Alstrup <alstrup wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > Hare Krishna > > Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha has already given the previous number system in chapter 8 " Astrological Viewpoint " in his book, but he has never explained the background for this system and that goes for anyone else who is using it, people are just giving this as a fact without any explanation. There are no astrological correlation given in any of the known rudraksha scriptures. > > Ys, Ole > > > > ________________________________ > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > sacred-objects > Saturday, 11 July, 2009 16:19:53 > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu and all... > > Because there is no scriptural guidance for Rudraksha and Graha, the only logical way is to see the number of the Graha. The cosmic Fadic number. The number of Mars is 9, so it should be Nava-mukhi for Mars, and Jupiter is Tri-mukhi. > > I think the whole thing should be reorganized. At present, only 1 mukhi-Sun, 2 mukhi-Moon and 6 mukhi-Venus, makes any sense. We can't assign numbers to Rudrakshas based on the ORDER in which the grahas are normally listed. That is not a number system. > > Logical would be: > 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi > 2. Moon - 2 mukhi > 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi > 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi > 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi > 6. Venus - 6 mukhi > 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi > 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi > 9. Mars - 9 mukhi > > If some one tells me that a 12 mukhi acts like Sun, my question is, does it act like Sun OR like Rudraksha? > > We should present the matter before Kamal Seetha Narayana, who is a foremost authority on Rudraksha. And acccept his verdict. > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects, " MANOJ KR.KAR " <manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, > > Namaskar !! > > > > In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? > > > > Om Namh Shivaya > > > > With Regards > > Manoj Kr.Kar > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> > > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > sacred-objects > > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > > > Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu. > > > > Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. > > > > I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu. > > > > I hope this will help, > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > devotees. Have a Nice Day, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > 00 91 9322646421 > > 0091 22 24459616 > > salagram8 > > > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > > > > > alstrup <alstrup > > > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > sacred-objects > > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu, > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ys, Ole > > > > > > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. 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Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hare Krishna Prabhu, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu 6 Mukhi rules the planet Mars. I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8--- On Sat, 11/7/09, MANOJ KR.KAR <manoj_kar7 wrote: MANOJ KR.KAR <manoj_kar7Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objects Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 5:02 AM Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, Namaskar !! In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? Om Namh Shivaya With RegardsManoj Kr.Kar--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 > wrote: Shaligram Shala <shaligram8 >Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objectsSaturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu.Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8 --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: alstrup <alstrup > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objectsFriday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM Dear Rajiv Prabhu,Hare KrishnaI find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change.Thank you,Ys, Ole See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2009 Report Share Posted July 11, 2009 Hare Krishna Prabhu, Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.Prabhu I am travelling right now and will be back in Bombay by 13/14 July. Will mail you our research Prabhu.I hope this will help,Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah NamahaI beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and Hisdevotees. Have a Nice Day,Thanks and Regards, Haribol, Rajiv Krishna Dasa,WWW.SHALIGRAM.COM00 91 93226464210091 22 24459616salagram8--- On Sat, 11/7/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planetssacred-objects Date: Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 9:30 AM Hi Ole,The explanation is that the nava-graha are generally named in that order 1-9. But that has nothing to do with the number of the planet. I would like to try this logical and numerically correct list, keeping in mind that ALL Rudrakshas act like Rudraksha, and not really planets:Numerically logical would be:1. Sun - 1 Mukhi2. Moon - 2 mukhi3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi4. Rahu - 4 mukhi5. Mercury - 5 mukhi6. Venus - 6 mukhi7. Ketu - 7 mukhi8. Saturn - 8 mukhi9. Mars - 9 mukhi10. Sun - 10 mukhi11. Moon - 11 mukhi12. Jupiter - 12 mukhi13. Rahu - 13 mukhi14. Mercury - 14 mukhi (a good Mercury can counter a bad Saturn?)15. Venus - 15 mukhi16. Ketu - 16 mukhi17. Saturn - 17 mukhi18. Mars - 18 mukhi19. Sun - 19 mukhi20. Moon - 20 mukhi21. Jupiter - 21 mukhi.Now THIS makes sense numerically. But to assign numbers according to the order the names are listed in a sloka is not really numerology. For example, 3 is the number for Jupiter, NOT Mars.I think this should be investigated. And who better than Sri Kamal Seethaji!?Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote:>> Dear Richard,> > Hare Krishna> > Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha has already given the previous number system in chapter 8 "Astrological Viewpoint" in his book, but he has never explained the background for this system and that goes for anyone else who is using it, people are just giving this as a fact without any explanation. There are no astrological correlation given in any of the known rudraksha scriptures.> > Ys, Ole> > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> sacred-objects> Saturday, 11 July, 2009 16:19:53> Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets> > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu and all...> > Because there is no scriptural guidance for Rudraksha and Graha, the only logical way is to see the number of the Graha. The cosmic Fadic number. The number of Mars is 9, so it should be Nava-mukhi for Mars, and Jupiter is Tri-mukhi. > > I think the whole thing should be reorganized. At present, only 1 mukhi-Sun, 2 mukhi-Moon and 6 mukhi-Venus, makes any sense. We can't assign numbers to Rudrakshas based on the ORDER in which the grahas are normally listed. That is not a number system.> > Logical would be:> 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi> 2. Moon - 2 mukhi> 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi> 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi> 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi> 6. Venus - 6 mukhi> 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi> 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi> 9. Mars - 9 mukhi> > If some one tells me that a 12 mukhi acts like Sun, my question is, does it act like Sun OR like Rudraksha?> > We should present the matter before Kamal Seetha Narayana, who is a foremost authority on Rudraksha. And acccept his verdict.> > Y/s,> Richard> > sacred-objects, "MANOJ KR.KAR" <manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji,> > Namaskar !!> > > > In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? > > > > Om Namh Shivaya> > > > With Regards> > Manoj Kr.Kar> > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...>> > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets> > sacred-objects> > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord.> > > > Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu.> > > > Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu.> > > > I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu.> > > > I hope this will help,> > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha> > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His> > devotees. Have a Nice Day,> > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa,> > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM> > 00 91 9322646421> > 0091 22 24459616> > salagram8 > > > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote:> > > > > > alstrup <alstrup >> > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets> > sacred-objects> > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu,> > > > Hare Krishna> > > > I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change.> > > > Thank you,> > > > Ys, Ole> > > > > > > > > > See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > recommends that you upgrade to the new and safer Internet Explorer 8. http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> See the Web's breaking stories, chosen by people like you. Check out Buzz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hi Richard,I am sorry, I dont follow this; what is this numerically logical you propose based on? As far as I am able to determine, the previous astrological correlation for certain beads (as listed in SKN Seetha's book) seems based upon the similarity of of the described Rudraksha effect in the rudraksha scriptures with the effects of certain planet. I really look forward to read the research by Rajiv Krishna Dasa.Ys, OleRichard Shaw Brown <rsbj66sacred-objects Sent: Saturday, 11 July, 2009 18:30:49 Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets Hi Ole, The explanation is that the nava-graha are generally named in that order 1-9. But that has nothing to do with the number of the planet. I would like to try this logical and numerically correct list, keeping in mind that ALL Rudrakshas act like Rudraksha, and not really planets: Numerically logical would be: 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi 2. Moon - 2 mukhi 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi 6. Venus - 6 mukhi 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi 8.. Saturn - 8 mukhi 9. Mars - 9 mukhi 10. Sun - 10 mukhi 11. Moon - 11 mukhi 12. Jupiter - 12 mukhi 13. Rahu - 13 mukhi 14. Mercury - 14 mukhi (a good Mercury can counter a bad Saturn?) 15. Venus - 15 mukhi 16. Ketu - 16 mukhi 17. Saturn - 17 mukhi 18. Mars - 18 mukhi 19. Sun - 19 mukhi 20. Moon - 20 mukhi 21. Jupiter - 21 mukhi. Now THIS makes sense numerically. But to assign numbers according to the order the names are listed in a sloka is not really numerology. For example, 3 is the number for Jupiter, NOT Mars. I think this should be investigated. And who better than Sri Kamal Seethaji!? Y/s, Richard sacred-objects, Ole Alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > Dear Richard, > > Hare Krishna > > Shri Kamal Narayan Seetha has already given the previous number system in chapter 8 "Astrological Viewpoint" in his book, but he has never explained the background for this system and that goes for anyone else who is using it, people are just giving this as a fact without any explanation. There are no astrological correlation given in any of the known rudraksha scriptures. > > Ys, Ole > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > sacred-objects > Saturday, 11 July, 2009 16:19:53 > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu and all... > > Because there is no scriptural guidance for Rudraksha and Graha, the only logical way is to see the number of the Graha. The cosmic Fadic number. The number of Mars is 9, so it should be Nava-mukhi for Mars, and Jupiter is Tri-mukhi. > > I think the whole thing should be reorganized. At present, only 1 mukhi-Sun, 2 mukhi-Moon and 6 mukhi-Venus, makes any sense. We can't assign numbers to Rudrakshas based on the ORDER in which the grahas are normally listed. That is not a number system. > > Logical would be: > 1. Sun - 1 Mukhi > 2. Moon - 2 mukhi > 3. Jupiter - 3 mukhi > 4. Rahu - 4 mukhi > 5. Mercury - 5 mukhi > 6. Venus - 6 mukhi > 7. Ketu - 7 mukhi > 8. Saturn - 8 mukhi > 9. Mars - 9 mukhi > > If some one tells me that a 12 mukhi acts like Sun, my question is, does it act like Sun OR like Rudraksha? > > We should present the matter before Kamal Seetha Narayana, who is a foremost authority on Rudraksha. And acccept his verdict. > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects, "MANOJ KR.KAR" <manoj_kar7@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Respected Rajiv Dashji, > > Namaskar !! > > > > In this connection i also observed that ruling palnet for three mukhi also changed to Sun inspite of Mars,so which rudraksha rules palnet mars ? > > > > Om Namh Shivaya > > > > With Regards > > Manoj Kr.Kar > > > > --- On Sat, 11/7/09, Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Shaligram Shala <shaligram8@ ...> > > Re: For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > sacred-objects > > Saturday, 11 July, 2009, 3:47 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna Prabhu Ole ji, > > Thanks for your mail Prabhu. Please accept my best wishes, all glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga, all glories to all the devotees of the Lord. > > > > Prabhu WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM is the only ISO 9001:2008 Certified Organisation in the World dealing with most genuine and rarest Shaligram Shilas, Exclusive Rudrakshas tested with latest machines and X Rayed to negate any abnormality in the inside structure, Aura and Chakra Balancing thro latest machines, Rarest and genuine Meteorites, 24 carats Gold plated Yantras, Real Makrana Marble Hindu Gods Statues/idols and temples of all sizes, Rare Right side Heera Shankhs, Auspicious Dwarka Shilas, Sacred Govardhan Shilas, All Sapphires and Gems, and all rare religious products and puja items Prabhu. > > > > Prabhu Ole I am presently travelling (in USA) and would be coming back to Mumbai on 14 July and will then answer your querry. Actually we think that there is no co relation between the Rudraksha beads and the planets but I must say that if we read Shiva Purana, Jabalopnishad, Devi Bhagwatam Geeta, we will find that there exist a definite relationship and it is very nice that you have observed that. This we had changed since last 6 months and now since you have brought this point you will observe that the remaining websites on Rudraksha will also change their text accordingly Prabhu. > > > > I will definitely send you our research on this Prabhu. > > > > I hope this will help, > > Aum Namoh Bhagvate Vasudevay Saligram Devah Namaha > > I beg to remain yours in the humble service of the Lord and His > > devotees. Have a Nice Day, > > Thanks and Regards, > > Haribol, > > Rajiv Krishna Dasa, > > WWW.SHALIGRAM. COM > > 00 91 9322646421 > > 0091 22 24459616 > > salagram8 > > > > --- On Fri, 10/7/09, alstrup <alstrup > wrote: > > > > > > alstrup <alstrup > > > For Rajiv Krishna Prabhu; 8 and 9 Mukhi ruling planets > > sacred-objects > > Friday, 10 July, 2009, 5:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > Dear Rajiv Prabhu, > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > I find it highly interesting to discover that the description of ruling planets for 8 and 9 Mukhi beads have changed at Rudra Centre and Shaligram websites. 8 mukhi is now assigned to planet Ketu and 9 mukhi is now assigned to planet Rahu. It used to be the other way around, 8 mukhi=Rahu, 9 mukhi=Ketu. Of course, in all the rudraksha scriptures, no astrological/ planetary correlation is ever given for any bead. However, I would be most interested to learn more about the background for this change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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