Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Dear members, KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 Namaste Chndrashekharjee....Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...the person has to pass on that to some one...I really do not believe any such type of things ...but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...RegardsHimanshu--- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote:chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM Dear members, KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2009 Report Share Posted June 24, 2009 DEAR CHANDRASEKHARJIYOU ARE IN THE CORRECT ATTITUDE,A REAL HINDU CAN ONLY SAY LIKE WHAT YOU SAIDYOU HAVE SHOWN YOUR SPIRITUAL ALTITUDE BY EXPRESSING YOUR INDEPTH KNOWLEDGE OF DANA MEANS VALUE OF DONATION TO TEMPLES OF PRICELESS SPIRITUAL VALUESMANY SAINTS AND PURANAS LIKE GARUDA NARADA AND BRAHMA PURANAS, HAVE PRAISED THE VALUE OF DAANA (DONATION)SUCH PRICELESS ARTICLES SHOULD NOT BE EVEN THOUGHT OF AS SELLING AND GETTING MUCH MONEYTHESE ARE ALL GREAT SIN,PEOPLE NOWADAYS THINKS EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF MONEYIS THE CURRENCY FROM RESERVE BANK MORE VALUABLE THAN THE GREAT VALUES OF SPIRITUAL PRACTISES AND TAPAS HELD BY MANY HIGH STATURE SAINTS AND LAMAS PREPARING AND FORMING SUCH GREAT ,,,,ONLY ONE YANTRA IN THE WORLDVALUING BY MATERIAL VALUES A ,SALAGRAMA ,KAILASH SHILA ,GOMATHY SHILA GOVARDHAN SHILA ALL ARE GREAT SINS,AS THESE ARE SPIRITUALLY PRICELESS ARTICLESALL THESE WHO WANT TO VALUE THE KDY INTERMS OF USDS MILLIONS OR CRORES IT BE ARE MAKING FUTILE ATTEMPTSMANY DISEASES ARE CURED BY EVEN POSSESSION AND DARSHAN OF KDY,SALIGRAMS ETCCAN EVERY DISEAES BE CURED BY CRORES OF MONEY?WHY DO NOT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THE SPIRITUAL VALUES OF THESE ARTICLES,,,,INSTEAD IMMEDIATELY THEY CONVERT IT IN TERMS OF USDMANY PRANMAS TO THESE GREAT ARTICLESLET GOD BLESS US TO REACH HIGH SPIRITUAL STATURE ,INSTEAD OF OUR TRYING TO DEGRADE THESE PRICELESS ARTICLESKrisna--- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote:chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM Dear members, KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET New Email addresses available on Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail. Hurry before someone else does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Well-put, Chandrashekarji. Surely it is only common sense that a so-called great-wealth giving talisman would ever be for sale. Being for sale is proof positive that it doesn't work. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee.... > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > the person has to pass on that to some one... > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > Regards > Himanshu > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke wrote: > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > Thanking you and with regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently,with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. With regards, Chandrashekhar --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: himanshu gupte <hrgupteRe: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...the person has to pass on that to some one...I really do not believe any such type of things ...but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...RegardsHimanshu--- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objectsWednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM Dear members, KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred. Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , chphadke wrote: > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently,with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > With regards, > > Chandrashekhar > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ... > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > the person has to pass on that to some one... > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > Regards > Himanshu > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > Dear members, > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > Thanking you and with regards, > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 CONSIDER: If the KDY is so weak it can only help one person at a time, and THAT person wants to sell it, then it's an ironic joke. sacred-objects , " Richard Shaw Brown " <rsbj66 wrote: > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred. > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects , chphadke@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently,with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > With regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@> wrote: > > > > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ... > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > > the person has to pass on that to some one... > > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > > Regards > > Himanshu > > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > > > Thanking you and with regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossible,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt? --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM Dear Chandrashekar BhaijiIf the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.Y/s,Richardsacred-objects, chphadke wrote:>> > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > With regards,> > Chandrashekhar > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte > wrote:> > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte >> Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects> Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...> Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> the person has to pass on that to some one...> I really do not believe any such type of things ...> but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> Regards> Himanshu> > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects> Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM> > > > > > > > > > Dear members,> > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > Thanking you and with regards,> > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the " spoils of war " . My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? sacred-objects , tp mods <tpmods wrote: > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossible,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt? > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred. > > Y/s, > Richard > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > With regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote: > > > > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ... > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > > the person has to pass on that to some one... > > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > > Regards > > Himanshu > > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > > > Thanking you and with regards, > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Honest reply is- Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization,till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard.--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the "spoils of war". My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods wrote:>> > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt?> > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects> Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji> > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.> > Y/s,> Richard> > sacred-objects@ . com, chphadke@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > With regards,> > > > Chandrashekhar> > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote:> >> >> > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ >> > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > sacred-objects> > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...> > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> > the person has to pass on that to some one...> > I really do not believe any such type of things ...> > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> > Regards> > Himanshu> >> > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> >> >> > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > sacred-objects@ . com> > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear members,> > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> >> >> > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 The problem when the Raj took over India was all the Rajyas or small kingdoms were divided, the British were united. And Hinduism is not a " preaching " religion or " One way ONLY " religion. So the Hindus were not trying to convert the mletchas to be Hindu, but the mletchas WERE trying to convert the Hindus; and before them the Muslim invaders. But I do find many Hindus to be VERY nationalistic, and flattered when outsiders convert to be Hindus. As an American, because I converted to Hindu in 1966, I was even able to meet the President of India twice at RastraPati Bhavan in 1972. That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... Y/s, Richard sacred-objects , tp mods <tpmods wrote: > > Honest reply is- > Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization,till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard. > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM > > ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the " spoils of war " . My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? > > sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods@> wrote: > > > > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt? > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji > > > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred. > > > > Y/s, > > Richard > > > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, > > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > > > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ... > > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > > > the person has to pass on that to some one... > > > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > > > Regards > > > Himanshu > > > > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > > sacred-objects > > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > > > > > Thanking you and with regards, > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Yes Fishy......u r right sir...this so called kdy will be sure to help the seller only....--- On Fri, 26/6/09, chphadke <chphadke wrote:chphadke <chphadkeRe: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, 26 June, 2009, 4:28 PM Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently,with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. With regards, Chandrashekhar --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: himanshu gupte <hrgupteRe: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ....Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...the person has to pass on that to some one...I really do not believe any such type of things ...but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...RegardsHimanshu--- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objectsWednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM Dear members, KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar Phadke ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 Respected Shri. Richardji, As you have rightly mentioned, the present KDY being sold may not be working. It now appears that there may be many replicas of KDY in the market. The present item may not be genuine and its owner must be knowing it. Spiritually, as you have said it is in the hands of a greedy person. God decides to whom such Holy items should go, certainly, God will not select a chain of greedy persons to even touch such a wonderful God'S Gift. The story of carbon dating using C13 method also appears to be an arbitrary and baseless. Scientifically, dating of any archaeological item can be done mainly with radioactive isotope of Carbon, 'C14' and certainly not 'C13'. The method is scientifically known as 'C14 Carbon Dating Method'. It is important to note that the presence of natural carbon atom is required to be present in the material under study to judge the age or period of the item produced. C14 method can not be used for dating of any object lacking carbon atom as in the present case where the KDY is purely a brass object and does not contain any carbon atom. Dating or age of such archaeological items, lacking carbon (non organic), can only be done based on the age of other organic material like plant parts or animal parts etc. associated with the object under study during expidation of archaeological dig. Age or period of metalic objects such as utensils or arms burried under the earth crust is mainly decided by the age of organic material associated in the same layers of earth using C14 Carbon dating method. The KDY under discussion is not a object found in archaeological dig, however, is an antique item. The KDY after its production by a Tibetan saint, got transferred from its one owner to the another owner and the question does not arise to do its so called Carbon dating as it does not contain any carbon atom. The KDY is purely a brass item and is not a organic material to do the C 14 test. The so called historical account of its ownership is definitely baseless, imaginary and questionable. There are very few names of its so called owners and there are many many missing links if we consider age of the KDY. It is practically impossible. Who has kept this account and how ? Is there any record like present day property card record or land record showing history of the ownership of any property in registrar office ? It is simply bluffing. As we all know, there are good people and the bad people in the world. If we decide to accept the ownership history, then it means that for the last few hundred years the item got transferred from one owner to the another possibly by money transactions. This simply means, the KDY was never in the ownership of a good spiritual soul to block the so called ownership chain. It is impossible. The authentic KDY being a sacred, holy and mystic item, must be in the possession of a spiritual person or in the treasury of some famous temple or monarchy in Tibet, Nepal or India. This eliminates the possiblility of an authentic KDY in the market. Thanking you and with regards, Chandrashekhar --- On Fri, 26/6/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, 26 June, 2009, 4:58 PM CONSIDER: If the KDY is so weak it can only help one person at a time, and THAT person wants to sell it, then it's an ironic joke.sacred-objects, "Richard Shaw Brown" <rsbj66 wrote:>> Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji> > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.> > Y/s,> Richard> > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > With regards,> > > > Chandrashekhar > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@> wrote:> > > > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@>> > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > sacred-objects> > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...> > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> > the person has to pass on that to some one...> > I really do not believe any such type of things ...> > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> > Regards> > Himanshu> > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > sacred-objects> > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members,> > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > >> ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2009 Report Share Posted June 26, 2009 True,can't argue on this point Richard ! "That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... "--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:58 PM The problem when the Raj took over India was all the Rajyas or small kingdoms were divided, the British were united. And Hinduism is not a "preaching" religion or "One way ONLY" religion. So the Hindus were not trying to convert the mletchas to be Hindu, but the mletchas WERE trying to convert the Hindus; and before them the Muslim invaders. But I do find many Hindus to be VERY nationalistic, and flattered when outsiders convert to be Hindus. As an American, because I converted to Hindu in 1966, I was even able to meet the President of India twice at RastraPati Bhavan in 1972. That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... Y/s, Richardsacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods wrote:>> Honest reply is-> Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization, till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard.> > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects> Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM> > > > > > > > > ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the "spoils of war". My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? > > sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods@> wrote:> >> > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt?> > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > To: sacred-objects> > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji> > > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.> > > > Y/s,> > Richard> > > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Chandrashekhar> > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ >> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > sacred-objects> > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...> > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> > > the person has to pass on that to some one...> > > I really do not believe any such type of things ...> > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> > > Regards> > > Himanshu> > >> > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > sacred-objects> > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear members,> > > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > > > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > >> > >> > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Sorry.... to say ..but I had few.... since present President of India comes from my home town.....--- On Sat, 27/6/09, tp mods <tpmods wrote:tp mods <tpmodsRe: Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 12:54 AM True,can't argue on this point Richard ! "That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... "--- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:58 PM The problem when the Raj took over India was all the Rajyas or small kingdoms were divided, the British were united. And Hinduism is not a "preaching" religion or "One way ONLY" religion. So the Hindus were not trying to convert the mletchas to be Hindu, but the mletchas WERE trying to convert the Hindus; and before them the Muslim invaders. But I do find many Hindus to be VERY nationalistic, and flattered when outsiders convert to be Hindus. As an American, because I converted to Hindu in 1966, I was even able to meet the President of India twice at RastraPati Bhavan in 1972. That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... Y/s, Richardsacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods wrote:>> Honest reply is-> Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization, till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard.> > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects> Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM> > > > > > > > > ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the "spoils of war". My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? > > sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods@> wrote:> >> > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt?> > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > To: sacred-objects> > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji> > > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.> > > > Y/s,> > Richard> > > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > Chandrashekhar> > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote:> > >> > >> > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ >> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > sacred-objects> > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ....> > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> > > the person has to pass on that to some one...> > > I really do not believe any such type of things ...> > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> > > Regards> > > Himanshu> > >> > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > >> > >> > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > sacred-objects> > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 3:57 PM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear members,> > > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > > > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > >> > >> > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 Don't be " sorry to say " - REJOICE! sacred-objects , himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote: > > Sorry.... to say ..but I had few.... since present President of India comes from my home town..... > > --- On Sat, 27/6/09, tp mods <tpmods wrote: > > tp mods <tpmods > Re: Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 12:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True,can't argue on this point Richard ! > " That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... " > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote: > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > sacred-objects > Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:58 PM > > > > > The problem when the Raj took over India was all the Rajyas or small kingdoms were divided, the British were united. And Hinduism is not a " preaching " religion or " One way ONLY " religion. So the Hindus were not trying to convert the mletchas to be Hindu, but the mletchas WERE trying to convert the Hindus; and before them the Muslim invaders. But I do find many Hindus to be VERY nationalistic, and flattered when outsiders convert to be Hindus. As an American, because I converted to Hindu in 1966, I was even able to meet the President of India twice at RastraPati Bhavan in 1972. That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... Y/s, Richard > > sacred-objects, tp mods > <tpmods@> wrote: > > > > Honest reply is- > > Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization, till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard. > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > sacred-objects > > Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur > ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the " spoils of war " . My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? > > > > sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt? > > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> > > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > > To: > sacred-objects > > > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji > > > > > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred. > > > > > > Y/s, > > > Richard > > > > > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji, > > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding > ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar > > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > > > > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ... > > > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan??? > > > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period... > > > > the person has to pass on that to some one... > > > > I really do not believe any such type of things ... > > > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks... > > > > Regards > > > > Himanshu > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> > > > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ? > > > > sacred-objects > > > > Wednesday, 24 > June, 2009, 3:57 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear members, > > > > > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner. > > > > > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership. > > > > > > > > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ? > > > > > > > > Thanking you and with regards, > > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke > > > > > > > > > > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 27, 2009 Report Share Posted June 27, 2009 well I mean sorry for others feeling ....not sorry for meeting President Pratibhatai Patil....--- On Sat, 27/6/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?sacred-objects Date: Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 4:27 PMDon't be "sorry to say" - REJOICE!sacred-objects , himanshu gupte <hrgupte wrote:>> Sorry..... to say ..but I had few.... since present President of India comes from my home town.....> > --- On Sat, 27/6/09, tp mods <tpmods wrote:> > tp mods <tpmods> Re: Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects > Saturday, 27 June, 2009, 12:54 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True,can't argue on this point Richard !> "That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... "> > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66 wrote:> > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66> Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> sacred-objects > Friday, June 26, 2009, 1:58 PM> > > > > The problem when the Raj took over India was all the Rajyas or small kingdoms were divided, the British were united. And Hinduism is not a "preaching" religion or "One way ONLY" religion. So the Hindus were not trying to convert the mletchas to be Hindu, but the mletchas WERE trying to convert the Hindus; and before them the Muslim invaders. But I do find many Hindus to be VERY nationalistic, and flattered when outsiders convert to be Hindus. As an American, because I converted to Hindu in 1966, I was even able to meet the President of India twice at RastraPati Bhavan in 1972. That's HEAVY!!! I'll bet no other member of this group has ever had two private meetings with India's President (in spite of being Indian)... Y/s, Richard> > sacred-objects, tp mods> <tpmods@> wrote:> >> > Honest reply is-> > Indians never cared for their heritage and civilization, till today we see many names drawn by chawksticks on the walls of many temples or caves etc.Those who cannot respect their herritage bound to suffer in long run.Pitty but thats true Richard.> > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > sacred-objects> > Friday, June 26, 2009, 8:35 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Actually there is legal case for return of Kohinor and Timur> ruby. And some items have been returned to Thailand, India, and Egypt. They should be, but they are the "spoils of war". My question is HOW and WHY did millions of Indians allow a handful of British to have these great items in the first place??? > > > > sacred-objects, tp mods <tpmods@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > In that case one can also add Kohinoor diamond and those other item which are in museum of England and other EU contries.Richard this sounds good but practically impossib le,most of treasure and parts of Pyramids are in the possesion of non Egyptians,can this also asked and stuffed in Egypt?> > > > > > > > > --- On Fri, 6/26/09, Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > Richard Shaw Brown <rsbj66@>> > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > To:> sacred-objects> > > Friday, June 26, 2009, 7:21 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar Bhaiji> > > > > > If the KDY talisman is great, as purported, then it should be given to the Indian Government for secure Museum display, and for the prosperity and benefit of the whole of Bharat. This would be the course taken by a great man, who loves India. But if it is in the hands of greedy bastards then it's hardly sacred.> > > > > > Y/s,> > > Richard> > > > > > sacred-objects, chphadke@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri. Himanshu ji,> > > > > > > > Thank you very much for your mail. No, I have not written any book on 'Sri Kartik Swamy'. The so called rules regarding> ownership of KDY appears arbitrary. If the item is not to be kept permanently, with a single owner, then it should go free of cost to its new suitable owner. The most interesting part of the rule is the KDY may be sold to its new owner appears fishy. > > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar> > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > himanshu gupte <hrgupte@ >> > > > Re: Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > > sacred-objects> > > > Wednesday, 24 June, 2009, 9:36 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > Namaste Chndrashekharjee. ...> > > > Are u the same from Pune who wrote book on kartik swami darshan???> > > > This KDy is in circulation because they say one person can not keep it more than some stipulated period...> > > > the person has to pass on that to some one...> > > > I really do not believe any such type of things ...> > > > but its really wonderful to read what ppl thinks...> > > > Regards> > > > Himanshu> > > >> > > > --- On Wed, 24/6/09, chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > chandrashekhar phadke <chphadke (AT) (DOT) co.in>> > > > Kailas Dhanaraksha Yantra, Why to sell it ?> > > > sacred-objects> > > > Wednesday, 24> June, 2009, 3:57 PM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear members,> > > > > > > > KDY is being discussed on this fourm since last few days. It now appears from the discussions held and from the internet search that the KDY is a wonderful mystical priceless object. It is a 'God's Gift' to us. It is now clear that there is only one such KDY in the world showing miraculous results to its owner.> > > > > > > > I really wonder, why somebody should sell it ? How it got transferred from one owner to the other ? Who has kept this historical account ? World is very large to keep this account. Practically impossible, since it is a mystical object. Nobody will disclose its ownership.> > > > > >> > > If I get similar wonderful object and if it is only one in the world, definitely, I will not sell it. I will better offer it to some trustworthy sacred temple like Tirupati Balaji or Sri Pashupatinath of Kathmandu, Nepal who will protect it as a temple treasure and will not make business of it. > > > > > > > > Who will sell such a wonderful, mystical God's Gift ?> > > > > > > > Thanking you and with regards,> > > > > > > > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > > >> > > >> > > > ICC World Twenty20 England '09 exclusively on ! CRICKET> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Love Cricket? Check out live scores, photos, video highlights and more. Click here http://cricket. > > > >> > >> >>--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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