Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear All, Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/list The style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like " If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts " . Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India. A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here. Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 My simple question to all of you who are fighting over this KDY....if KDY is such powerful.....and made in India/ Tibet....why both the countries suffered lot misfortune....why invaders attacked these countries succumbed to those barbaric forces???When India had such powerful mantras.....and such powerful ratnas why non of Indian kings able to face muslims and win ???(With exception Chatrapati Shivaji) Shivaji never had any KDY or never purchased any flow less Jyotish quality gems .....Funny.....are you people realy learned people????do u apply your own mind and brain????Sorry friends....Humble request.....you have something called brain above your shoulders...apply think and then read all messages in this forum.....I--- On Thu, 18/6/09, ishwar33 <ishwar33 wrote:ishwar33 <ishwar33 sqaure pendant kdy comparisonsacred-objects Date: Thursday, 18 June, 2009, 11:06 AMDear All,Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/listThe style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like "If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts". Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India.A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here.Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2009 Report Share Posted June 18, 2009 Dear All This Fraudulent Ishawar33 (aka Ishwar Nagwani, Faithama, Lta Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan, etc etc) is trying to create this Genteel Forum into a frauster Circus as of colletectables in , Vorras irrigation and many other sites. Ishwar 33 download the same photos that I load, and enlarge it and claim he has it and reload it in Or Group's Album again. Google Search " Ishwar33 " , and /or " KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA " review all his childish clowning fraudster acts. All the clowning fraudster's act reflects from Bangalore. Since he download the Square KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA pendant photo and Ishwar33 reload it in another album within our Forum's Photo. Its time, I will advice all Depts , the metaphysic dept, Radio carbon dating, and Humanities of the 3 universities involved, to write up their story of such frauds over the internet with a fake of undefined date KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA brass round pendant, to BBC Free Lance Journalists column to follow up this news, as ISHWAR33 has unique internet connection number and its known to us, as its already being PING for more than a month ago, for the relevent address and owner/r. This does not harm in any way but it will damage the credibility of character forever as well as his associated business reliability. As universities are writing this news, not individuals, it carries great weight of accurary. As the Learned Moderator has seen the photos, I posted and his upload photos !!! What Do you kindly think ?? Keep this fraudster Clown in this forum and waste the broadwidth and your energies in reviewing each time with his clowning frauds and mis-presentions, ?? or debar him ??? As Ishwar33 has been known to tried to defraud others in all messages since October 18 2005, his first day of appearance as Lata Bajaj, Jasmine Oberoi, Fathima in vorras irrigation site and BBC FreeLance Journalist site (a fake mocked up website created from a Bangalore ISP ping, on a freweb site purporting to be BBC Freelance journalists related site) This forum is well known to debunk all myths, fakes etc such as Whelk Conch sold as Valmpuri,meteorites, fake rudraksha, cobra pearls not formed harden unused cobra venom, flawed Gemstones etc Best Regards sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33 wrote: > > Dear All, > > Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. > > sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/list > > The style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like " If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts " . > > Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India. > > A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here. > > > Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Very funny Dear Balasubramaniam Muthuraku (+1.8773298449) a commisioned agent for selling earth mined fake nagamanis for 10% commision. You have misquoted all figures and names till now, You still live in 20th Century as per you so you should doubt your parental identity and not others. All the IP addresses in Bangalore does not belong to me. I am not the only person who live in Bangalore. Also again you are not aware of basics and at every step you have to take help of somebody, the ip addresses of individuals are dynamic and same ip address can be assigned to two different persons on same day in two different cities. To get the exact address of person who psoted the message you need to know IP + date and time. The case has to be logged and with help of local police where that ISP is located the request is sent to ISP and the whole process takes 6 to 8 weeks even for CIA/FBI/CID/CBI/IB. Another thing I came to know about KDY through one of group member Viral Patel in early/late 2007, you can also verify that fact by sending an email to him, he is CEO of some company in Gujrat. so how I can post messages about KDY in 2005. If you prove that I am " Faithama, Lata Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan " then I will say that I don't have parental identity otherwise you will give me 1 mt of earth mined nagamanis or kamachatka meteorites, ha ha . Get the physical address of these people and prove, also as challange I am giving you one IP address along with date and time, get me the physical address and contact numbers, This is not dummy ip address. Don't tell me it belongs to me blindly. IP: 122.167.135.89 Aug 19, 2008 Time:03:12 AM Also for the benefit of everybody, only the IP address is not good enough as sombebody using services of ISP " Airtel Broadband " from Delhi will show location as Bangalore from IP address as the head quarters of ISP are located in Bangalore, The public domain softwares show the location of ISP headquarters. It is important to have host id, date and time along with IP address and these logs are maintained with ISPs which are only disclosed to police/enforcement agencies against a valid case. As for the photos of sqare KDY is concerned you are once again blaming that I downloaded your photos and modified and uploaded back, show the two set of photos to any digital expert and get thier opinion, you have enough money to throw around. I don't plagiarise like you. Below is source of my photos for everybody's information. The photos were taken from eBay, so now it is clear that from where Valdmir Nemcheko purchased this small sqaure brass pendant, but nobody knows why he purchased square BRASS one after having big tin boxed one. http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Tibetan-Sky-Bronze-Auspicious-Zodiac-Thogchag_W0QQitemZ3\ 70119055252QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item562cd09794 & _trksid=p46\ 34.c0.m14.l1262 & _trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A30 Do your homework first before blaming people falsely for deleting your photographs or modifying your photographs. sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi wrote: > > Dear All > This Fraudulent Ishawar33 (aka Ishwar Nagwani, Faithama, Lta Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan, etc etc) is trying to create this Genteel Forum into a frauster Circus as of colletectables in , Vorras irrigation and many other sites. > > Ishwar 33 download the same photos that I load, and enlarge it and claim he has it and reload it in Or Group's Album again. > > Google Search " Ishwar33 " , and /or " KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA " review all his childish clowning fraudster acts. > > All the clowning fraudster's act reflects from Bangalore. > > Since he download the Square KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA pendant photo > and Ishwar33 reload it in another album within our Forum's Photo. > > Its time, I will advice all Depts , the metaphysic dept, Radio carbon dating, and Humanities of the 3 universities involved, to write up their story of such frauds over the internet with a fake of undefined date KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA brass round pendant, to BBC Free Lance Journalists column to follow up this news, as ISHWAR33 has unique internet connection number and its known to us, as its already being PING for more than a month ago, for the relevent address and owner/r. > > This does not harm in any way but it will damage the credibility of character forever as well as his associated business reliability. > > As universities are writing this news, not individuals, it carries great weight of accurary. > > As the Learned Moderator has seen the photos, I posted and his upload photos !!! What Do you kindly think ?? Keep this fraudster Clown in this forum and waste the broadwidth and your energies in reviewing each time with his clowning frauds and mis-presentions, ?? or debar him ??? > > As Ishwar33 has been known to tried to defraud others in all messages since October 18 2005, his first day of appearance as Lata Bajaj, Jasmine Oberoi, Fathima in vorras irrigation site and BBC FreeLance Journalist site (a fake mocked up website created from a Bangalore ISP ping, on a freweb site purporting to be BBC Freelance journalists related site) > > This forum is well known to debunk all myths, fakes etc such as Whelk Conch sold as Valmpuri,meteorites, fake rudraksha, cobra pearls not formed harden unused cobra venom, flawed Gemstones etc > > > Best Regards > > > > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. > > > > sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/list > > > > The style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like " If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts " . > > > > Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India. > > > > A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here. > > > > > > Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dear Ishwar 33 Yes Very Funny, with your Clowning for your life and death as you relayed in your email of May 21st or so. requesting me to remove the square wall plaque of Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra. The fact is Krish777 has shown evidence that " " Ishwar33 has purported sales correspondence on the Web at Collectables--Antiquities for US$ 1.5 million or so. Which I did not know till its pointed out in this forum by members. Bala_songyi was offered too a commision of 10% . But it didn't work out, as I dont believe, but I did know Ishwar33 is selling it on the web, till krish777 point it out. Now Ishwar33 is showing the site /store that this forum discussed about a 27 Mukhi Rudraksha in September 2008, by a so called Nepali or tibetan yap. There is no items there available as shown,but only photo and price. I dont have a ebay, so someone with ebay account to checked for me, only photo and prices of a charm, no mention of kailash dhana etc in the web page.. Item unavailable. So thats clear as many web site created on brass round pendant Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra The fact is " Did Ishwar Nagmani conduct sales negotiation on via Web for selling his Brass pendant Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra ?? " Yes He did.. the information was given by fellow member Krish77777 here in the past in other post. Now Ishwar33 is clowning / creating new names Viral, Gujurat Balasubramaniam of uncertain location, etc.... With information revealed by me, in this forum of Nagmani, but again distorting to be sold as 10% Commission......that seems to be from some clowning website thats unmoderated as he can always created fake messages purported by someone bala of same namesake, or dates purporting to be older. In moderated website such as Sacred Natural Objects, we can see the ISP address in message origins at the right top corner. I do not know a Viral or a Bala Anyway, I have no sales interest in Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra or Naga mani. My only interest is use of mined or littoral nagamani is to use as a prism as Beccqurrel did in discovery of Rontgen.in 1897 from the same mani as given Hemsboldt from Ceylon. All the nagmani from Amelia Court as are of short life, and light sensitive and burn out too soon. What Pallas say (space jewel meteorites called pallasite after Pallas), Ural chlorophane lay all day long in sun, and shine bright at night and all night. My last summer trip in Sibirea, we got no permission into the exact area. Old member should remember the book Pearls : Beyond Priceless, that amentioned about Eight unusual pearls, This book I mention and its google book review, while discussion on natural pearl and cultured pearl in this form was going on., from limited access in Siberea. My project is Not similar but alike in cold fusion or to the effect, and thanks to Ishwar33 it may be possible My concern is not for money as I have many royalties for now, in past for 15 years and till rest of my life. Many more times X in my 1 year, than what You Ishwar33 is trying to fleece. And great many resources that you can't think of, at free uses. I need good quality Naga mani chlorophane or cobrastone of size 10 in x 10 in x 4 in for my prism, for that I thank you... I have almost 14 nagamani now all light emitting at night on its own, but too small, another forum member has negiotiation on now on my behalf, at a 20 million INR right now, for past 3.5 months. We have been sending it to various instutions, after giving the deposits to the owner. Whatever I reported is true.... and I am not selling Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra, as you are. Best Regards sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33 wrote: > > Very funny Dear Balasubramaniam Muthuraku (+1.8773298449) a commisioned agent for selling earth mined fake nagamanis for 10% commision. You have misquoted all figures and names till now, You still live in 20th Century as per you so you should doubt your parental identity and not others. All the IP addresses in Bangalore does not belong to me. I am not the only person who live in Bangalore. > > Also again you are not aware of basics and at every step you have to take help of somebody, the ip addresses of individuals are dynamic and same ip address can be assigned to two different persons on same day in two different cities. To get the exact address of person who psoted the message you need to know IP + date and time. The case has to be logged and with help of local police where that ISP is located the request is sent to ISP and the whole process takes 6 to 8 weeks even for CIA/FBI/CID/CBI/IB. > > Another thing I came to know about KDY through one of group member Viral Patel in early/late 2007, you can also verify that fact by sending an email to him, he is CEO of some company in Gujrat. so how I can post messages about KDY in 2005. If you prove that I am " Faithama, Lata Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan " then I will say that I don't have parental identity otherwise you will give me 1 mt of earth mined nagamanis or kamachatka meteorites, ha ha . Get the physical address of these people and prove, also as challange I am giving you one IP address along with date and time, get me the physical address and contact numbers, This is not dummy ip address. Don't tell me it belongs to me blindly. > > IP: 122.167.135.89 > Aug 19, 2008 > Time:03:12 AM > > Also for the benefit of everybody, only the IP address is not good enough as sombebody using services of ISP " Airtel Broadband " from Delhi will show location as Bangalore from IP address as the head quarters of ISP are located in Bangalore, The public domain softwares show the location of ISP headquarters. It is important to have host id, date and time along with IP address and these logs are maintained with ISPs which are only disclosed to police/enforcement agencies against a valid case. > > > As for the photos of sqare KDY is concerned you are once again blaming that I downloaded your photos and modified and uploaded back, show the two set of photos to any digital expert and get thier opinion, you have enough money to throw around. I don't plagiarise like you. Below is source of my photos for everybody's information. The photos were taken from eBay, so now it is clear that from where Valdmir Nemcheko purchased this small sqaure brass pendant, but nobody knows why he purchased square BRASS one after having big tin boxed one. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Tibetan-Sky-Bronze-Auspicious-Zodiac-Thogchag_W0QQitemZ3\ 70119055252QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item562cd09794 & _trksid=p46\ 34.c0.m14.l1262 & _trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A30 > > Do your homework first before blaming people falsely for deleting your photographs or modifying your photographs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote: > > > > Dear All > > This Fraudulent Ishawar33 (aka Ishwar Nagwani, Faithama, Lta Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan, etc etc) is trying to create this Genteel Forum into a frauster Circus as of colletectables in , Vorras irrigation and many other sites. > > > > Ishwar 33 download the same photos that I load, and enlarge it and claim he has it and reload it in Or Group's Album again. > > > > Google Search " Ishwar33 " , and /or " KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA " review all his childish clowning fraudster acts. > > > > All the clowning fraudster's act reflects from Bangalore. > > > > Since he download the Square KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA pendant photo > > and Ishwar33 reload it in another album within our Forum's Photo. > > > > Its time, I will advice all Depts , the metaphysic dept, Radio carbon dating, and Humanities of the 3 universities involved, to write up their story of such frauds over the internet with a fake of undefined date KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA brass round pendant, to BBC Free Lance Journalists column to follow up this news, as ISHWAR33 has unique internet connection number and its known to us, as its already being PING for more than a month ago, for the relevent address and owner/r. > > > > This does not harm in any way but it will damage the credibility of character forever as well as his associated business reliability. > > > > As universities are writing this news, not individuals, it carries great weight of accurary. > > > > As the Learned Moderator has seen the photos, I posted and his upload photos !!! What Do you kindly think ?? Keep this fraudster Clown in this forum and waste the broadwidth and your energies in reviewing each time with his clowning frauds and mis-presentions, ?? or debar him ??? > > > > As Ishwar33 has been known to tried to defraud others in all messages since October 18 2005, his first day of appearance as Lata Bajaj, Jasmine Oberoi, Fathima in vorras irrigation site and BBC FreeLance Journalist site (a fake mocked up website created from a Bangalore ISP ping, on a freweb site purporting to be BBC Freelance journalists related site) > > > > This forum is well known to debunk all myths, fakes etc such as Whelk Conch sold as Valmpuri,meteorites, fake rudraksha, cobra pearls not formed harden unused cobra venom, flawed Gemstones etc > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. > > > > > > sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/list > > > > > > The style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like " If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts " . > > > > > > Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India. > > > > > > A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here. > > > > > > > > > Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2009 Report Share Posted June 19, 2009 Dear Muthuraku(Bala), I don't want to say anything further, the small square pendant is not called KDY so no website mentions the name, other members can check the photograph is exactly same as one you published, you have your own vested interest to prove something as KDY, so that you can get those mt of earth mined nagamanis and kamachatka some builshiXX???meteotrites. Any kid can compare the photos on eBay and ones you have publised. Shame on you and your name should be publised by universities for publishing ebay photos as real KDY. Your fraud is exposed by publishing these ebay photos which you claim to have got from russian friend. Members have enough sense to judge the two set of photographs, atleast your claim of photos being modified by me is proved false and I all names and dates have been misquoted by you. sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi wrote: > > Dear Ishwar 33 > Yes Very Funny, with your Clowning for your life and death as you relayed in your email of May 21st or so. requesting me to remove the square wall plaque of Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra. > > The fact is Krish777 has shown evidence that " " Ishwar33 has purported sales correspondence on the Web at Collectables--Antiquities for US$ 1.5 million or so. Which I did not know till its pointed out in this forum by members. > > > Bala_songyi was offered too a commision of 10% . > But it didn't work out, as I dont believe, but I did know Ishwar33 is selling it on the web, till krish777 point it out. > > Now Ishwar33 is showing the site /store that this forum discussed about a 27 Mukhi Rudraksha in September 2008, by a so called Nepali or tibetan yap. > > There is no items there available as shown,but only photo and price. I dont have a ebay, so someone with ebay account to checked for me, only photo and prices of a charm, no mention of kailash dhana etc in the web page.. Item unavailable. > > So thats clear as many web site created on brass round pendant Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra > > The fact is " Did Ishwar Nagmani conduct sales negotiation on via Web for selling his Brass pendant Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra ?? " > > Yes He did.. the information was given by fellow member Krish77777 here in the past in other post. > > Now Ishwar33 is clowning / creating new names Viral, Gujurat Balasubramaniam of uncertain location, etc.... > > With information revealed by me, in this forum of Nagmani, but again distorting to be sold as 10% Commission......that seems to be from some clowning website thats unmoderated as he can always created fake messages purported by someone bala of same namesake, or dates purporting to be older. > > In moderated website such as Sacred Natural Objects, we can see the ISP address in message origins at the right top corner. > > I do not know a Viral or a Bala > > Anyway, I have no sales interest in Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra or Naga mani. > > My only interest is use of mined or littoral nagamani is to use as a prism as Beccqurrel did in discovery of Rontgen.in 1897 from the same mani as given Hemsboldt from Ceylon. > All the nagmani from Amelia Court as are of short life, and light sensitive and burn out too soon. > > What Pallas say (space jewel meteorites called pallasite after Pallas), Ural chlorophane lay all day long in sun, and shine bright at night and all night. > > My last summer trip in Sibirea, we got no permission into the exact area. > Old member should remember the book Pearls : Beyond Priceless, that amentioned about Eight unusual pearls, This book I mention and its google book review, while discussion on natural pearl and cultured pearl in this form was going on., from limited access in Siberea. > > > My project is Not similar but alike in cold fusion or to the effect, and thanks to Ishwar33 it may be possible > > My concern is not for money as I have many royalties for now, in past for 15 years and till rest of my life. Many more times X in my 1 year, than what You Ishwar33 is trying to fleece. > And great many resources that you can't think of, at free uses. > > I need good quality Naga mani chlorophane or cobrastone of size 10 in x 10 in x 4 in for my prism, for that I thank you... > > I have almost 14 nagamani now all light emitting at night on its own, but too small, another forum member has negiotiation on now on my behalf, at a 20 million INR right now, for past 3.5 months. We have been sending it to various instutions, after giving the deposits to the owner. > > > Whatever I reported is true.... and I am not selling Kailash Dhana Raksha Yantra, as you are. > > > Best Regards > > > > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33@> wrote: > > > > Very funny Dear Balasubramaniam Muthuraku (+1.8773298449) a commisioned agent for selling earth mined fake nagamanis for 10% commision. You have misquoted all figures and names till now, You still live in 20th Century as per you so you should doubt your parental identity and not others. All the IP addresses in Bangalore does not belong to me. I am not the only person who live in Bangalore. > > > > Also again you are not aware of basics and at every step you have to take help of somebody, the ip addresses of individuals are dynamic and same ip address can be assigned to two different persons on same day in two different cities. To get the exact address of person who psoted the message you need to know IP + date and time. The case has to be logged and with help of local police where that ISP is located the request is sent to ISP and the whole process takes 6 to 8 weeks even for CIA/FBI/CID/CBI/IB. > > > > Another thing I came to know about KDY through one of group member Viral Patel in early/late 2007, you can also verify that fact by sending an email to him, he is CEO of some company in Gujrat. so how I can post messages about KDY in 2005. If you prove that I am " Faithama, Lata Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan " then I will say that I don't have parental identity otherwise you will give me 1 mt of earth mined nagamanis or kamachatka meteorites, ha ha . Get the physical address of these people and prove, also as challange I am giving you one IP address along with date and time, get me the physical address and contact numbers, This is not dummy ip address. Don't tell me it belongs to me blindly. > > > > IP: 122.167.135.89 > > Aug 19, 2008 > > Time:03:12 AM > > > > Also for the benefit of everybody, only the IP address is not good enough as sombebody using services of ISP " Airtel Broadband " from Delhi will show location as Bangalore from IP address as the head quarters of ISP are located in Bangalore, The public domain softwares show the location of ISP headquarters. It is important to have host id, date and time along with IP address and these logs are maintained with ISPs which are only disclosed to police/enforcement agencies against a valid case. > > > > > > As for the photos of sqare KDY is concerned you are once again blaming that I downloaded your photos and modified and uploaded back, show the two set of photos to any digital expert and get thier opinion, you have enough money to throw around. I don't plagiarise like you. Below is source of my photos for everybody's information. The photos were taken from eBay, so now it is clear that from where Valdmir Nemcheko purchased this small sqaure brass pendant, but nobody knows why he purchased square BRASS one after having big tin boxed one. > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Tibetan-Sky-Bronze-Auspicious-Zodiac-Thogchag_W0QQitemZ3\ 70119055252QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item562cd09794 & _trksid=p46\ 34.c0.m14.l1262 & _trkparms=%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A4%7C294%3A30 > > > > Do your homework first before blaming people falsely for deleting your photographs or modifying your photographs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " bala_songyi " <balasongyi@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear All > > > This Fraudulent Ishawar33 (aka Ishwar Nagwani, Faithama, Lta Baja, Jasmine Oberoi, Relic Antiques a museum dealer, j.johan, etc etc) is trying to create this Genteel Forum into a frauster Circus as of colletectables in , Vorras irrigation and many other sites. > > > > > > Ishwar 33 download the same photos that I load, and enlarge it and claim he has it and reload it in Or Group's Album again. > > > > > > Google Search " Ishwar33 " , and /or " KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA " review all his childish clowning fraudster acts. > > > > > > All the clowning fraudster's act reflects from Bangalore. > > > > > > Since he download the Square KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA pendant photo > > > and Ishwar33 reload it in another album within our Forum's Photo. > > > > > > Its time, I will advice all Depts , the metaphysic dept, Radio carbon dating, and Humanities of the 3 universities involved, to write up their story of such frauds over the internet with a fake of undefined date KAILASH DHANA RAKSHA YANTRA brass round pendant, to BBC Free Lance Journalists column to follow up this news, as ISHWAR33 has unique internet connection number and its known to us, as its already being PING for more than a month ago, for the relevent address and owner/r. > > > > > > This does not harm in any way but it will damage the credibility of character forever as well as his associated business reliability. > > > > > > As universities are writing this news, not individuals, it carries great weight of accurary. > > > > > > As the Learned Moderator has seen the photos, I posted and his upload photos !!! What Do you kindly think ?? Keep this fraudster Clown in this forum and waste the broadwidth and your energies in reviewing each time with his clowning frauds and mis-presentions, ?? or debar him ??? > > > > > > As Ishwar33 has been known to tried to defraud others in all messages since October 18 2005, his first day of appearance as Lata Bajaj, Jasmine Oberoi, Fathima in vorras irrigation site and BBC FreeLance Journalist site (a fake mocked up website created from a Bangalore ISP ping, on a freweb site purporting to be BBC Freelance journalists related site) > > > > > > This forum is well known to debunk all myths, fakes etc such as Whelk Conch sold as Valmpuri,meteorites, fake rudraksha, cobra pearls not formed harden unused cobra venom, flawed Gemstones etc > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sacred-objects , " ishwar33 " <ishwar33@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > Can somebody compare the photos I have added today and the photos of square pendant talisman bala posted yesterday and bala claims that photos were sent to him by Russian general. > > > > > > > > sacred-objects/photos/album/1425008182/pic/list > > > > > > > > The style of photo is exactly same, i.e the way front and rear have been combined. You will see that only finger orientation is bit different and the finger prints match if you observe in detail. The whole thing about c-13 assay test is story, it is like " If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts " . > > > > > > > > Infact bala has created big confusion now, which is actual kdy the small brass one or the boxed tin one. Contradicting himself once again. I had seen square kdy pendants in Gujrat and they were really old atleast 600 to 700 years, they are available plenty on road side in nepal and Dharamshala in north India. > > > > > > > > A person who changes the 3 owners (first American, Russian 1, Russian 2) in 3 days and gets the details of owners in 3 days along with metallurgical contents should be head of CIA/FBI/Interpol, why he is wasting is time here. > > > > > > > > > > > > Even the best security organizations cannot locate the whereabouts of stolen artifacts in such short time. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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