Guest guest Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 ook...i've to consider it:i'm a scientist and my job is to explain things that nobody never understand before and don't believe this thing...i'm in the same way that you it mean i really believe that this object are mother earth gift but until i don't explain it many people will not believe this...so there is two solution:you help me oryou don't help me!if not i can promess that i have other contact who can provide me such sample!up to you!florian De : paraman nair <paraman777À : sacred-objects Envoyé le : Mardi, 26 Mai 2009, 11h08mn 45sObjet : Re: Re: gaj mani some news heared dear sirthe article is very meaningfulbut these things such as gm,nm ec are very godly touch items,of some spiritual valueso we can not test a thing that may be spiritual,as science is very much below spiritualitytill now can science create, a drop of blood or even a hair it it's original composition? not yet?so ,so much dependence of some people on spectroscopy and all is of not much value in finding it's real valueoffcourse ,certain nature of the material of composition can be got ,but wheather it is having certain powers can be tested by age old methods,it is saidreal GMs are ,it is heared ,only at forests tribal people headsthose are handed over from generation to generation and they do certain poojas also daily with such items,it is heardthese items are first to be given spiritual values ,instead of thinking in terms of Crores off rupees or something like thatalso all these items may not be always positive in nature,as the time of ripening may not be in a good lagna,means good favourable godly blessed timein astrology they look at position of jupitor.at the ripening timealso if we take some such items by cheating it will not be good to keep such onesall these are to be consideredthankskk--- On Fri, 22/5/09, krish667777 <krish667777@ > wrote: krish667777 <krish667777@ > Re: gaj mani some news hearedsacred-objectsFriday, 22 May, 2009, 3:04 AM Sir Chandrashekhar Phadke,Excellent article with broad and meangiful scientific backup!!! Thou, at the same time, there has to be at the least one non-scientific test to prove that it is real??? May be Sir Arjun Pandit can enlighten us, on different available tests?Krish(krish667777)sacred-objects, chphadke wrote:>> > Dear friends,> > There is no scientific test so far to check the authenticity of Gaja Mani and Gaja Mukta. The so called tests of 'Eating betel leaf, drinking coconut water, coming up through the heap of rice grains (like fish or bird ?) is all nonsense. Basically, to perform any scientific test we require a 'Control Material' or in simple words, a genuine material collected by reputed international research institute for scientific comparision.> > There are fake Gaja Mani made from molar tooth of elephant, or from the bone of walrus etc. The scientific test of 'Raman Spectroscopy' can only judge whether the product is from elephant or walrus or other animal ? of the control animals i.e. the animal bones of which Raman Spectroscopy data is on record. > > It is important to mention that the 'Raman Spectroscopy' test or 'Infrared Spectroscopy' test gives the reading proving whether the product is of Elephant, however, it can not prove or say whether it is Gaja Mani or Gaja Mukta extracted from elephant head or tusk or is simply made from elephant bone or molar tooth ? The Infrared Spectroscopy test is also a complicated scientif ic test. > > Elephant molar tooth does not show the scientific characters of elephant tusk or of ivory. Elephant ivory is much softer than molar tooth. Ivory shows a typical 'Scrimshaw Pattern' in ivory development similar to growth rings of a tree. However, the 'Scrimshaw Pattern' is not simply the encircled growth rings like in transverse section of a tree trunk, but has a totally different pattern. Scrimshaw pattern is treated as authenticity test for ivory. Elephant molar tooth on the otherhand does not show 'Scrimshaw Pattern'.> > Thanking you and with best wishes,> > Chandrashekhar Phadke> > --- On Thu, 21/5/09, paraman777 <paraman777@ ...> wrote:> > > paraman777 <paraman777@ ...>> gaj mani some news heared> sacred-objects> Thursday, 21 May, 2009, 2:14 PM> > > > > > > > > dear sirs> as far as i have heared, and some people i met casually,they said some tests for gaj mani> 1-the betel leaf if placed around it touching it eats the leaf,except the nerve portion> 2-it drinks coconut water if place in it> 3-it ha a natural vibrative feeling when placed in hands> 4-some say if put in say3kg rice it shoots down from top to bottom> the ritual for it is daily morning and evening you place it in milk of cow and change it daily> thanks> krisn> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Explore and discover exciting holidays and getaways with India Travel http://in.travel. /> New Email addresses available on Get the Email name you've always wanted on the new @ymail and @rocketmail.Hurry before someone else does! 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